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Prediction Best 22 R1 2019

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  1. TheEnsign

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    It's a bit premature for this, so mods feel free to lock / move as required - however, I really don't want to look back on the season, so the only other direction is forward!

    Please excuse the crap formatting.

    B: Lloyd Goddard Geary
    HB: Webster Carlisle Coffield
    C: Clark Steele Bruce
    HF: Battle Membrey Billings
    F: Gresham Marshall Long
    Fol: Pierce Ross Steven
    I/C: Acres Roberton McCartin Lonie

    A few thoughts:

    Lloyd a bit cheeky but I hope that the Hanners noise is some Machiavellian plan to be able to generate cover to be able to actually talk to Sydney about Lloyd. White in the back pocket if we don't trade Lloyd in.

    Goddard a bit of an odd choice but Brown should be strictly injury backup next year, realistically it's going to be another transition year so giving him (Brown) games seems pointless if younger players are with development scope are available. Austin shows a bit but good lord does he float off his man a lot without necessarily impacting the play.

    Newnes, Sincs, and Dunstan all need to play VFL and dominate there for a few weeks to earn their way back into the team.
     
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  2. joop

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    Don't understand everyone frothing over Pierce. Was ok in his first game but absolutely monstered in his 2nd. Hickey would still be number 1 if everyone is fit, but I'm hoping we grab Pruess to end that argument.
     
  3. TheEnsign

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    I knew that if I put the 'H' word or the 'L' word in the ruck that's all the thread would be about....
     
  4. STK2020

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    B. McKenzie. Brown. Roberton
    HB. Clark. Carlisle. Webster
    C. Hanneberry. Steele. E Langdon
    HF. Billings. Bruce. Gresham
    F. Rankine. Marshall. Membrey

    Foll. Lycett. Ross. Steven
    Int. Coffield. Sinclair Acres. Geary
     
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  5. LongerHasHickey

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    What I'd like to see:
    B McVEIGH AUSTIN ROBERTON
    HB COFFIELD CARLISLE WEBSTER
    C BILLINGS STEELE CLARK
    HF RANKINE BRUCE LONG
    F BATTLE MEMBREY GRESHAM
    R LYCETT ROSS STEVEN
    INT ACRES SINCLAIR HANNEBERY McKENZIE

    What Richo will pick regardless of form:
    B GEARY BROWN ROBERTON
    HB SAVAGE CARLISLE WEBSTER
    C ACRES ARMITAGE NEWNES
    HF BILLINGS McCARTIN WELLER
    F MEMBREY BRUCE GRESHAM
    R HICKEY ROSS STEVEN
    INT DUNSTAN STEELE COFFIELD CLARK
     
  6. tomsimpkin31

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    McKenzie Brown Roberton
    Coffield Carlisle Webster
    Hannebery Ross Billings
    Steven Bruce Lonie
    Menzel Membrey Marshall
    Lycett Steele Gresham
    Geary Acres Clark Long

    If we are to rise up, Gresham and Billings need to be our two best players. We need to get the ball in their hands 25+ times a match and be delivering it inside 50 over and over again. To go with this, I'd love to see Steven spend more time up forward. There are a few reasons for this. Firstly to allow people like Gresham to transition into midfield. Secondly as he has the skills to be really effective as a forward. Thirdly, we are far too reliant on Steven. Our wins/near wins pretty much always come with the reality of Steven being our best player. If he doesn't play a ripper we generally are miles off it. This suggests to me our midfield mix isn't quite right and needs to evolve.

    I'm going with Lycett, Hanners and Menzel as they seem to be the three most probable scenarios, whether that is for better or worse. If they come, they'll play. If Menzel can bring 30 plus goals with him in a season then I'm happy. Leaving Sinclair out is tough as despite an average year I'm hopeful he can get back to his best. I wouldn't mind seeing him off half back with his skillet and the way he sees the game.

    We're in a tricky situation with the five tallish forwards in Bruce, Membrey, Marshall, Battle and Paddy. Head vs heart for me as the idea of Paddy not making it with us pains me. But realistically and structurally, he's number five on that list.
     
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  7. Cleanupsoup

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    Fb: Geary, Brown, Roberton
    HB: Webster, Carlisle, McKenzie
    C: Acres, Steele, Billings
    HF: Gresham, Bruce, Long
    FF: Lonie, Marshall, Membrey
    Foll: Hickey, Ross, Steven
    I/C: Rice, Clark, Sinclair, pick 4.
    Emg: Coffield, Austin, McCartin, Phillips
     
  8. Cleanupsoup

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    You put Steele twice
     
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  9. tomsimpkin31

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    If only we could have a couple of him :p
     
  10. Tigerssaints

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    as evidenced in the last couple of games, the op h/b were BOG , doggies and Bombers, who can we play there

    Now i agree with Jimmy Webster , Carlisle, or Roberton who else with the skills ,on the other H/B will
    to break the lines and deliver to the Forwards
     
  11. WhiskySaint

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    What I would like to see...... but it ain't going to happen.

    McVeigh Austin Webster
    Robo Carlisle McKenzie
    Billings Steele Coff
    Rankin Membrey Hannas
    Gresh Bruce Long

    Lycett Steven Ross
    Clark Acres Sincs Lonie

    Wouldn't mind a forward line of..... (at least after McCartin dominates preseason and becomes an aerobic beast)

    Membrey McCartin Rankin
    Long Ruffhead Gresh
     

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  12. mad-saint-guy

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    Expect us to add a couple of best 22 recruits like Lycett and Hannebery and probably lose/trade a decent player or two but from our current list this what we can realistically expect Richo to select next year

    B: Geary, Brown, Webster
    HB: McKenzie, Carlisle, Roberton
    C: Newnes, Steele, Sinclair
    HF: Billings, Bruce, Gresham
    F: Membrey, McCartin, Long

    Foll: Longer, Steven, Ross
    Int: Acres, Clark, Coffield, Dunstan
     
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  13. Crusty Undies

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    What I'd like to see:

    White Goddard Rice
    Webster Carlisle Robo
    Sinclair Steele Ross
    Billings Membrey Gresh
    Lonie Bruce Long
    Lycett Steven Acres
    Clark Walsh/Smith Freezer Menzel


    What we'll actually see :

    Geary Brown McKenzie
    Webster Carlisle Savage
    Newnes Dunstan Ross
    Billings Membrey Weller
    Newnes Fatty Gresh
    Hickey Steven Steele
    Lonie Clark Sinclair Rice
     
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  14. D2D3

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    Without considering possible trade right now I think:

    FB: Geary - Brown - Austin
    HB:Webster - Carlisle - Roberton
    CL: Billings - Steele - Sinclair
    HF: Lonie - Bruce - Gresham
    FF: Marshall - Membery - Long
    RR: Hickey - Ross - Steven
    Int: Acres - Phillips - McKenzie
    Clark

    I think Membery, Bruce and Marshall are mobile and accountable enough to play in the same forward line. And I'd like to see Austin play the old Gilbert role as a running 3rd tall defender, being a lockdown type doesn't suit him. That bench spot I gave McKenzie could just as easily be Rice, Coffield or Savage but I think D-Mac holds it for now. I also prefer Phillips over Armo or Dunston but that's debatable. Goddard will most likely be delisted leaving Brown as the only real choice as a lockdown defender.

    Hopefully a couple of trades and pick 3 make a slightly different look but that's my thoughts for now.
     
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    Geary, can't kick to save his life, but puts in the effort, good defensively and if he gets the ball more than he should its because no-one else is.
    Brown, OK stopper against some talls.
    Austin, OK on the rebound for a big unit, not as defensive as he could be.
    Webster : I like .
    Carlisle : I like.
    Roberton: I like, hope he can get over his health concerns.
    Billings : Got less of the ball and kicked less goals than last year. Disappointing. Needs to come back better.
    Steele : After looking like he might make it as a ball winning freak, he spudded it up for much of the year, GOod signs at the end.
    Sinclair : After a massive breakout season 2017, he managed to do much the same overall. I WAN''T MORE.
    Lonie : 16 goals from 11 games is getting to where he needs to be.
    Bruce : probably would have kicked 40 and done some good work round the ground. Paddy, Battle and Marshall kicked 25 combined.
    Gresham : got more of the ball than previously and did good work with it.
    Marshall : Useful as a ruck forward. I think i'd go with him.
    Membrey: I like.
    Long: tends to go missing . Worth starting with i suppose.
    Pierce/Hickey/Longer, whatever.
    Ross: Has he peaked?
    Steven: Not getting any younger.
    Acres: Improved on 2017 particularly contested possessions.
    Phillips: Could be a decent all round mid.
    McKenzie : Fast , but still needs to get more of the ball. He's not Cyril, so he needs more than 15 touches . Some good signs thoughl.
     
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    St. Kilda Saints 2019 Potential Starting 22

    FB: Rice – Austin – Coffield

    HB: Webster – Carlisle (C) – Roberton

    C: Gresham – Acres – Billings

    HF: Rankine – Battle – Lonie

    FF: Membrey (VC) – Marshall – Steven

    Foll: Lycett – Ross (VC) – Steele

    Int: Sinclair – Hanneberry (VC) – Clark – Long

    Emerg: Pierce – Bruce – Phillips - Dunstan

    Sandy: Paton - Hickey – White – McKenzie – Savage – Newnes – Claverino – Joyce – Langlands - McCartin

    Break Glass If Required: Armitage, Brown, Gilbert, Geary

    List Changes

    Retired/Delisted: Stevens – Minchington – Wright – Freeman – Connellan - Goddard
    Trade Out: Weller – Longer
    Trade In: Lycett – Hanneberry
    Draft: - Rankine
    Possibility – I’d trade Steven for a top 6 pick (Very unlikely but not out of the question)

    Reasoning:

    - McKenzie left out until he can kick.
    - Lycett, if not Pierce then Hickey. Longer hasn’t got enough to his game - Trade or delist
    - Hannerberry could be huge for us if only in terms of building a tougher environment and developing similar mids.
    - Retaining Dunstan to see if hannerberry can teach him how to be a star while being extremely limited skill wise
    - Claverino/Joyce plays for Rice depending on opp setup, not Brown.
    - Bruce/McCartin will need to make a mockery of VFL football before being considered ahead of Battle/Marshall
    - Likewise Savage/Newnes. Kids to be given first crack
    - Carlisle is my captain. Obvious choice
    - Acres plays centre and attends as many stoppages as humanly possible
    - Gresham and Lonie play higher, Steven 50/50 mid/deep forward
    - With hannerberry playing we can afford to not play our dinosaurs who are statistically and quite obviously the worst performing veterans in the league. We simply cant afford to have Geary kicking the ball.
    - Dont need Menzel
     
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    my team

    Geary - Austin - McKenzie
    Webster - Carlisle - Roberton
    Tomlinson - Steele - Billings
    Steven - Battle - Coffield
    Membery - Bruce - Fasolo


    Lycett
    - Ross - B.Crouch

    Acres / Hunter / Marshall / Smith

    Trade Dunstan and Longer for Crouch
    Trade Priority pick for Tomlinson
    Weller and Armitage for Scrimshaw
    Fasolo free agent
    Lycett free agent
    Menzel free agent
    Lonie trade for 3rd round draft pick

    out
    Weller
    Armitage
    Freeman
    Goddard
    Longer
    Gilbert
    Lonie
    Stevens
    Minchington

    in
    Lycett
    B.Crouch
    Smith / pick 4 in draft
    Tomlinson / priority pick
    Menzel
    Fasolo
    Scrimshaw
    3rd round draft pick
    Marshall off rookie list
     
  18. SaintsSeptember

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    Using the dumb, but surprisingly effective system of choosing the players with the highest average contested possessions count we get :

    FB 17 Gilbert (5.5) *** Brown. 10 Geary (6.7)
    HB 18 Webster (5) 15 Carlisle (5.6) 16 McKenzie ( 5.5)
    C 6 Acres (8.9) 4 Dunstan(9.7) 7 Sinclair(7.3)
    HF 8 Bruce (7) 12 Billings (6.2) 19 Membrey (4.8)
    F 9 Gresham(7) 14 Marshall (5.7) 13 Long(5.9)

    R 1 Steele (10) 2 Hickey(10) 3 Steven(10)

    5 Ross(9.6) 11 Armitage( 6.7) 20 Newnes ( 4.8) 21 Paton(4.7)

    Emergency : 23 Pierce(4.7) 24 Weller( 4.5) , Battle/Lonie/Savage 4.3

    XXX 16 Stevens(5.5) 16 Freeman(5.5) 18 Goddard (5) 24 Wright(4.5)
    *** Brown gets Goddard's spot for structure.
     
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    A bit sobering that nether Clark or Coff had enough contested to get on this list....
     
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    Clarke's 3.9 vs Savages 4.2
    Meh.

    I'm still pissed that Hickey is one of our top 3 midfielders.
     
  21. Brains Trust66

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    Ok here’s my side for next year . I know some players might still be injured at the time but I’m going to pretend all players will be fit for round 1 2019 .

    FB - Webster, Austin , Rice
    HB - Robbo , Carlisle , Clark
    C - Paton , Walsh , Acres
    HF - Rankine , Max King , Billings
    FF - Steven , Bruce , Membrey
    R - Lycett , Steele , Gresham
    I/c - Coffield , Ross, Smith , McKenzie

    That’s assuming certain draft picks fall our way lmao .


    Go Saints
     
  22. tomsimpkin31

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    Keen to add in picks one, two, three and four.
     
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    Clark’s will go up once he stops playing HFF with some half back thrown in. No doubt about it.
     
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    Think it's pretty pointless picking a team before any serious list changes are made.

    Based on who we have at the moment and assuming everyone is fit:

    McKenzie Brown Webster
    Roberton Carlisle Savage
    Sinclair Steele Billings
    Membrey Battle Gresham
    Long Marshall Lonie
    Pierce Ross Steven
    Acres Clark Coffield Paton
     
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    I think we all know the King is watching this thread........and waiting.
     
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