Best 22 round 1 2010

[mattc]

our best 22 shouldnt include stevens, scotland, houlihan or johnson as they arent hard enough compared to russell or hadley. Also stevens scotland and houlihan don't show enough willingness to break into a sprint (stevens gets ball at half back jogs up the wing bateman gets it and takes off up the wing

 

[Ryan Dixon Webb]

B: Bret Thornton; Michael Jamison; Aaron Joseph
HB: Chris Johnson; Mark Austin; Paul Bower
C: Kade Simpson; Bryce Gibbs; Andrew Walker
HF: Chris Yarran; Matthew Kreuzer; Mitch Robinson
FF: Eddie Betts; Brendan Fevola; Jarrad Waite
R: Robert Warnock; Chris Judd; Marc Murphy
IC: Shaun Grigg; Shaun Hampson; Andrew Carrazzo; Jordan Russell

EMG: Rhys O'Keeffe (I think he will come on next year and become really important running off of half-back); Joe Anderson; Steven Browne

 

[Mister Carlton]

Thread's like these are stupid and pointless. Many things can happen between now and then. Players could get injuries, leave the club or turn out like Nick Stevens.

 

[true blue19]

B: Bret Thornton; Michael Jamison; Aaron Joseph
HB: Chris Johnson; Mark Austin; Paul Bower
C: Kade Simpson; Bryce Gibbs; Andrew Walker
HF: Chris Yarran; Matthew Kreuzer; Mitch Robinson
FF: Eddie Betts; Brendan Fevola; Jarrad Waite
R: Robert Warnock; Chris Judd; Marc Murphy
IC: Shaun Grigg; Shaun Hampson; Andrew Carrazzo; Jordan Russell

EMG: Rhys O'Keeffe (I think he will come on next year and become really important running off of half-back); Joe Anderson; Steven Browne

he is a good kick as well and a bit of a hardnut

 

[Silvagnis]

B: Joseph Jamison Thorton
HB: Walker Austin Bower
C: Simpson Robinson Gibbs
HF: Luke Tapscott* Kreuzer Yarran
F: Betts Fevola Waite
R: Warnock Judd Murphy

Int: Russell Browne Grigg Hampson

Emerg: Carrazzo Garlett Stevens O'hAilpin

I prefer Kreuzer playing further up the ground where he can exploit his man's lack of running power and catch them out on the overlap.

Kreuzer did that to Richmond and the Swans to goal on the run.

We just need to get the forward structure right, learn to block the man on the mark and get our midfielders & runners to apply defensive pressure. Create a turnover to move the ball in quickly to Kreuzer one out and on the move.

Kreuzer isn't as slow, unaccountable and as soft as Travis Cloke.

Bower always run off Cloke and gets away from him.

The athletic and mobile Waite leading up for the long kick and in the opposition direction to Fevola. It's hard to spread the opposition's backline if you only have two marking targets inside fifty.

And one is a leading full forward and carrying an ankle.

*A footballer who is reportedly hard at the ball and kicks well with both feet.

We need a hard forward/mid with grunt and an eye for the goals to complement the silk of Yarran, Gibbs, Murphy and Judd.

 

[1 Million]

FB: B. Thornton, M. Jamison, A. Joseph
HB: H. Scotland, P. Bower, N. Stevens
C: A. Walker, M. Murphy, K. Simpson
HF: J. Russell, M. Kreuzer, J. Waite (If Fit)
FF: E. Betts, B. Fevola, C. Yarran
R: R. Warnok, B. Gibbs, C. Judd
I/C: M. Robinson, S. Grigg, S. O'hAilpin, A. Carrazzo

 

[Moss Rocket]

Full strengh side / 2010 side

B. Austin Jamo Thornton
HB. Walker Bower Gibbs
C. Simpson Stevens Grigg
HF. Houlihan Waite Betts
F. Kreuzer Fev Yarran
R. Warnock Judd Murphy
Int Robinson Carrazzo O'Hailpin Joseph

This will be a great line up.

Thoughts?

 

[Big Bad Sammus]

Re: Full strengh side / 2010 side

B. Austin Jamo Thornton
HB. Walker Bower Gibbs
C. Simpson Stevens Grigg
HF. Houlihan Waite Betts
F. Kreuzer Fev Yarran
R. Warnock Judd Murphy
Int Robinson Carrazzo O'Hailpin Joseph

This will be a great line up.

Thoughts?

My thoughts: Use the search function next time!

 

[Sin City]

Re: Full strengh side / 2010 side

Mine is

B: Joseph Jamison Thornton
HB: Bower Austin Browne
C: Simpson Gibbs Grigg
HF: Walker Kreuzer Yarran
F: Betts Fevola Waite
R: Warnock Judd Murphy
Int: Carrazzo Robinson Stevens Hampson Armfield Russell

 

[Big Bad Sammus]

Re: Full strengh side / 2010 side

Am I on EVERYONE'S ignore list or something?

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=605889&highlight=2010+team

Use this thread for your 2010 full strength/best squad.

 

[Silvagnis]

Re: Full strengh side / 2010 side

Am I on EVERYONE'S ignore list or something?

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=605889&highlight=2010+team

Use this thread for your 2010 full strength/best squad.

Yes...

It's just that everytime someone has an unoriginal thought or sees an article on the game, they have to start a thought provoking and duplicate thread. The latter makes it hard to follow the discussion on the up and coming game with three or four threads running for the one round.

It will be interesting if we play in a Grand Final in the next five years.

The mods might have to run a lottery to stop people tanking their life to be the first person to start the thread for the big game.

 

[Big Bad Sammus]

Re: Full strengh side / 2010 side

Yes...

It's just that everytime someone has an unoriginal thought or sees an article on the game, they have to start a thought provoking and duplicate thread. The latter makes it hard to follow the discussion on the up and coming game with three or four threads running for the one round.

It will be interesting if we play in a Grand Final in the next five years.

The mods might have to run a lottery to stop people tanking their life to be the first person to start the thread for the big game.

Mods: This makes sense - please merge "duplicate & unoriginal" thread, please.

 

[Mister Carlton]

Re: Full strengh side / 2010 side

Anything can happen... trades and injuries. Don't look to far into the future.

 

[Blueboys11]

Re: Full strengh side / 2010 side

Who cares...worry about 2009!!!

 

[PeeKay]

Re: Full strengh side / 2010 side

This is what I would like to see based on the knowledge we have now. I still believe we need a big tall player like O'hAlipin in the BP to look after some of the big resting rucks.

B. Joseph Jamison O'hAlipin
HB. Armfield Austin Bower
C. Walker Betts Waite
HF. Judd Kruezer Yarran
F. Gartlett Fevola Hampson
R. Warnock, Gibbs, Murphy

Int; Stevens, Grigg, Houlihan, Thornton.... (to be used off the bench into the forward half as well as the back half. He is to become another "all over" player.

Em; Robinson, Scotland, Russell,

I think this team has a balance of excellant height, pace and magic.. (Yarran & Gartlett)
Although I think Russell is being looked at by the MC as a very good running halfback.

 

[sosos]

Re: Full strengh side / 2010 side

Waite has played his best football as a floating backman who can swing forward.

O'Hailpin has played his best football as a leadup CHF.

 

[Silvagnis]

Tap it to Tapscott...

B. Joseph Jamison Armfield
HB. Thornton Austin Bower
C. Grigg Gibbs Robinson
HF. Tapscott Kreuzer Yarran
F. Waite Fevola Betts
R. Warnock Judd Murphy

Int: Hampson Walker Simpson* Russell

Emerg: Browne Garlett Houlihan

*Would still trade to get a KPP or inside midfielder

 

[BLUE BLEEDING]

Re: Full strengh side / 2010 side

CARLTON
B: Bret Thornton, Michael Jamison, Aaron Joseph
HB: Heath Scotland, Paul Bower, Bryce Gibbs
C: Kade Simpson, Andrew Carrazzo, Nick Stevens
HF: Eddie Betts, Jarrad Waite, Andrew Walker
F: Matthew Kreuzer, Brendan Fevola, Chris Yarran
Foll: Robert Warnock, Chris Judd, Marc Murphy
Int: Shaun Hampson, Mark Austin, Shaun Grigg, Ryan Houlihan
Emg: Setanta O'hAilpin, Jordan Russell, Richard Hadley

That means we are missing five of our best twenty two.
We are missing a permanent HBF that would take Scotland's position here.
Another tall defender would be nice as it still looks weak and more forwards whose main role is that as here half of the forward line came from other positions.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Re: Full strengh side / 2010 side

Mods: This makes sense - please merge "duplicate & unoriginal" thread, please.

I will merge them but I request a little tolerance. That thread died a week and a half ago and was a few pages back. The search function is only as good as the key words entered.

'Best' '22' '2010' etc are not uncommon in posts and in some cases you wouldn't know what to type in to check for existing threads.

A polite this has been done, followed by a reported post message 'please merge with' followed by the link is the best way to do this.

The problem is that people who complain about the same ideas being repeated over a given time frame are probably not going to look beyond the first two pages themselves when they start a thread.

The biggest problem with new threads is not people duplicating ideas innocently, but people thinking that their thoughts on a current thriving topic deserve their own thread.

Anyway, I urge patience and tolerance with each other and ask that people put themselves in the place of the other person before venting their frustrations.

Cheers

 

[Blue Warrior]

Re: Full strengh side / 2010 side

B: Thornton Jamison Bower
HB: Scotland Waite Walker
C: Simpson Judd Gibbs
HF: Betts Kreuzer Houlihan
F: Ohailpin Fevola Carrazzo
R: Warnock RR:Stevens R:Murphy
INT: Garlett,Hampson,Russell,Joseph

 

[thegreenmachine]

B: Austin Jamison Joseph
HB: Thornton Bower Grigg
C: Murphy Stevens Simpson
HF: Waite Kreuzer Walker
F: Betts Fevola Yarran
Foll: Hampson Judd Gibbs
Int: Warnock Browne Russell Robinson
Emerg: Armfield O'hAilpin Carrazzo

Austin, Jamison and Bower will fill the key defensive posts, and finally allowing Thornton to play his preferred role as a 3rd/4th tall or defensive sweeper, or even occassional forward.
Jamo and Bower probably won't get much bigger but you've got to love the size of Aussie at his age. With all the talk of a big, hulking defender, he could fill out to be just that guy we're after. Jamo and Emu could play on the smalls and talls depending on the opposition. Such is the versatility of these guys they could play on these types:
Jamo- Anthony/Bradshaw/Koschitzke
Emu- Franklin/N.Riewoldt/Pavlich/Goodes
Aussie- Roughead/J.Brown/Hawkins

Our midfield is looking good but we could do with another inside mid to help Judd out and look for him to play a more outside role where he can get into space and run more, where his disposal could be much more deadlier. Anyone on the bench outside Warnock could play a number of roles, and yes, I've not lost faith in Browne, who could be having a horror run of second year Blues (no pun intended). Fingers crossed for improvement from Gibbs, Murphy and Robinson. I also rate Grigg highly and have named him on the HBF, but would like to see some improvement in his disposal.

Forward line is a tough one here. IMHO, Waite is one of the more overrated players some people talk about. And IMHO, like T-Bird he is better off when not playing key position. He's a good player, don't worry about that, I just don't think he's an out and out star that's all. I like him off a HFF or wing myself, don't think he'll ever be a great CHF.
Who knows who will play CHF. If you're going to play Kreuzer, Hampson and Warnock all in the same team (who should all very well be in our best 22 next year fitness pending), then Special K is our best forward option. Might be the guy who even fills Fev's shoes when he's gone in a few years time.
Will also be looking for improvement in Yarran and Betts as well, it will be interesting to see whether Eddie can take his game to another level and spend more time in the midfield. He's still young enough and should be good enough to improve and make a real impact for us.

The 3 emergencies are still some good names. Armfield might compete with Joseph for one spot as a defender/tagger, even along with Carrots. I will be happy to be proven wrong about O'hAilpin, he might be our CHF next year as he's been doing well, but still see him as more of a depth player at this stage.

This is my 2 cents on this topic.

 

[the_mighty_blues]

B: A.Joseph M.Jamison B.Thornton
HB: H.Scotland P.Bower C.Johnson
C: K.Simpson B.Gibbs S.Grigg
HF: C.Yarran M.Kreuzer A.Walker
F: E.Betts B.Fevola J.Waite
OB: R.Warnock C.Judd M.Murphy
I/C: A.Carrazzo M.Austin S.Hampson R.Houlihan

Em: N.Stevens J.Gartlett M.Robinson

Captain: C.Judd
Vice captain: B.Gibbs
Deputy vice captain: M.Murphy

That is a great team but i would put waite in the backline or the wing to start off, but the great thing is now is that carlton have enough talent for waite to play deep forward or even half forward.

And if you think Aaron Joesph has been playing good this year. Next year he is going to be a STAR!!

 

[jonoman89]

B: Austin Jamison Joseph
HB: Thornton Bower Grigg
C: Murphy Stevens Simpson
HF: Waite Kreuzer Walker
F: Betts Fevola Yarran
Foll: Hampson Judd Gibbs
Int: Warnock Browne Russell Robinson
Emerg: Armfield O'hAilpin Carrazzo

Can't fault that lineup TBH. But i think the INT and EMG players would swap around a bit.

Scotland could get back to playing some good footy as well.

 

[Jeremias]

If it were up to me and assuming only the current players are there to pick from, I'd have something like this:

B: Joseph -- Jamison -- Austin
HB: Thornton -- Bower -- Grigg
C: Simpson -- Gibbs -- Walker
HF: Waite -- Kreuzer -- Russell
F: Betts -- Fevola -- Yarran
Foll: Warnock -- Murphy -- Judd
Int: Hampson -- Carrazzo -- Stevens -- Armfield
Emerg: O'hAilpin -- Scotland -- Houlihan

Given the continued development of our backline I'd like to see Waite return as a forward. Not only would that help continue the development of Austin as a defender but it would also give us another 30+ goal per year forward.

It seems pretty clear that Ratten wants to play 3 ruckmen in the same side. That's fine by me, 1 on the bench, 1 up forward and 1 in the ruck. All 3 can rotate with each other.

You know we're going alright when we have a player like Heath Scotland as an emergency. My reasoning for leaving him (and Houlihan for that matter) out of the side is a lack of accountability. Realistically, next year we should be pushing for a top 4 position so we can't afford to carry all of Scotland, Houlihan, Carrazzo and Stevens in the same side. All of them will be given opportunities but if all play at the same time then we will be exposed for a lack of accountability and speed.

Setanta unlucky to be out of the side as he is doing a good job but ultimately when deciding on him or Waite as a forward option, I favour Waite each and every time.

Speed, skill and grunt on each and every line - I love the look of that

 

[jackoisno1]

B: Thornton Jamison Joseph
HB: Scotland Bower Walker
C: Stevens Gibbs Simpson
HF: Houlihan Waite Carrazzo
F: Garlett Fevola Betts
FOL: Kreuzer Judd Murphy
INT:Hampson Ausitn Russell Hadley