Best Bands

[Darky]

Originally posted by jod23


Tool Black Sabbath Limp Bizkit...its not really music, its more ... for lack of a better word ... noise.

Not attacking your right to an opinion at all, but on what particular songs do you base this opinion, that Black Sabbath and Tool are "noise" (I couldn't give a sh.it about Limp Bizkit)?

Just wondering if you can rattle off the names of the songs you have heard that you think are garbage, without having to look up song names on Napster.

 

[Macca19]

Re: Re: Re: Best Bands

Originally posted by jod23



I just cant take anything you say seriously. I mean you think Korn are a good band?? What more can be said. I disagree with your Silverchair comments, i thought Neon Ballroom was a step forward for them. Took them out of there teenage heavy rock stage to a more mature style of music. I cant wait for there next album to see if they continue to take steps forward.

However i do agree with your Limp Bizkit comments, you see Jebs taking the ******** out of them at big day out 2000. Funny stuff. But Limp are no more crap than NIN, Korn, Sepultra and other s.h.i.t. bands like that. None of those bands i mentioned can write a decent song and NIN being the best band of the last decade is hilarious. I could rattle of 50 bands that have been better than them the last decade.

The only light at the end of the tunnel for you my friend is Jebediah. They are the best Australia can offer.... and they ROCK.

Silverchair are a sellout pure and simple. They will keep making music which will attract the young female population. I cant see how you say Korn is not a good band...every album has gone platinum, Follow the Leader is one of the highest selling cds of all time, and they basically pioneered the hard rock genre of today. Its obvious that you do not like metal or heavy music hence you saying they are sh!t. The fact that you think Jebediah is the best australia can offer proves that point i think. And even jebediah arent that good...there second cd was very dissapointing. Grinspoon, Living End, killing heidi (altho i cant stand them) and silverchair (and i hate them) have all done more than jebediah has.

The fact that you disrespect Trent Reznor and NIN proves you either dislike that sort of music, or you havent neccesarily heard much of their music. If you think they are 'heavy' you are wrong as well. Trent Reznor is one of the must musically talented artist on this earth. The fact that he has written 3 albums BY HIMSELF, playing all instruments BY HIMSELF and he was rated as the greatest and most infulential musician of ALL TIME proves this. The fact that DOwnward Spiral is one of the greatest albums ever created...and The Fragile in my personal view, is the best album of its sort ever made, and simply will not be passed. I mean i can find many flaws in your arguments, simply because i do not like the music.
Just because you dont like the music, doesnot mean they arent talented or are 'sh!t' as you put it.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by jod23


Tool Black Sabbath Limp Bizkit...its not really music, its more ... for lack of a better word ... noise. Creed are hardly a Pearl Jam clone, hell there a religious group!! But there still very good, why do you think they cleaned up at the Grammy's?

Oasis are not pop crap for the masses. There EASILY the best band of the last decade. You obviously dont know much about Oasis to suggest that Radiohead is one of there influences. LOL. There only real influence is the Beatles and knowing Noel and Liam they probably hate Radiohead. RH are a successfull english band Noel and Liam are bound to loath them.

What or who are the grammys to decide whos a great band?? Just because a band wins a grammy does not mean they are great. I mean Kid Rock won a grammy...so did Milli Vanilli and they were fakes so there you go.
The real basis is on album sales, not what a panel of 10 think is great. I cannot stand Oasis, yes they are a good band, but to say they are easily the best band in the last decade is again a joke. I could name 50 other bands that are better. Maybe Oasis is the best band in the GENRE of music they perform (pop rock for the masses). The fact that one of the gallagher brothers (cant remember which one) is an absolute fukwit also tends to put people of them a bit as well.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by jod23


Nirvana were certainly not one of the greatest bands of all time and Kurt Cobain was not particularly a great musician however they were in the right place at the right time and Kurt could certainly write a tune. He was a great songwriter and Nirvana can certainly stake a claim at having the best album of the last ten years. Rolling Stone from memory rated Nevermind as the 5th best album of all time, so i doubt they were overated.

Trent Reznor a musical god is one of the funniest things i have ever heard. You obviously have wondered off the track a little. Beneath is a brief list of musical gods, they are the real thing, GODS of music, people that changed the world and made music that had a profound effect on society. Reznor is not one of those people.

• John Lennon
• Paul McCartney
• Brian Wilson
• Mark Knoffler
• Jimi Hendrix
• Eric Clapton
• Elvis Presley
• Jim Morrison

That was a brief list, i could go on and on and never would Trent Reznor get onto that list.

Elvis Presley, hahaha. now thats funny.

You obvious do not like that sort of music that NIN and others of their ilk perform. Anyone with half a brain can work out he is a great musician. The fact he has written, performed, recorded, programmed, mixed 3 albums by himself with only backing parts from other people proves he is a very accomplished musician who can play a lot of different instruments. The fact that Trent Reznor IS Nine Inch Nails again proves this point...He IS Nine Inch Nails, but he has the other band members for live shows, basically because you cannot play 5 or 6 different instruments at once. TIME MAGAZINE rated him as the Greatest and most influential musician of the 20th century. And i agree. Id like to see Noel Gallagher write an album where he plays guitars, bass, keyboards, piano, drums, synthesisers and also does the vocals all BY HIMSELF.

The fact you desregard Trent Reznor just shows your ignorance and arrogance to broaden your musical horizons.

 

[Magpie-Fletch]

Macca & Jod : I think you guys should just accept the fact that you aren't going to agree on anything musically and get over it.

Anyway heres my list :

Fear Factory- The best Metal band on the planet, I still listen to Obsolete and Demanufacture reguarly. Burton C Bell can grunt and sing with the best of them and Raymond Herrera is a machine behind the drums.

Pennywise- The premier punk band for over ten years, I try and listen to "Fight Till You Die" before every Collingwood and Liverpool game to get the blood pumping, a great battle anthem. They are just ultra consistent and every album they make is a winner.

Mid Youth Crisis : An awesome Melbourne band which has now unfortunately split up, their album "Happiness and Authority" is one of my faves. My friend went to see another band a couple of weeks ago, which has the ex-lead singer of MYC in it, I've forgotten their name but does anyone in Bigfootyland know?

Slipknot- Just what the metal genre needs, new blood. Although I can't stand those teenyboppers who have heard Wait and Bleed amd now call themselves fans. I just hope they don't sell out on the next record.

NOFX- Their latest stuff is garbage but during the early to mid 90's they were untouchable, I can't stand that Ska crap they now play.

Bad Religion- The absolute gods of Punk rock and they have influenced many of the modern day bands, probably a bit old now but they had their day and deserve our respect.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by Magpie-Fletch
Macca & Jod : I think you guys should just accept the fact that you aren't going to agree on anything musically and get over it.

Anyway heres my list :

Fear Factory- The best Metal band on the planet, I still listen to Obsolete and Demanufacture reguarly. Burton C Bell can grunt and sing with the best of them and Raymond Herrera is a machine behind the drums.

Slipknot- Just what the metal genre needs, new blood. Although I can't stand those teenyboppers who have heard Wait and Bleed amd now call themselves fans. I just hope they don't sell out on the next record.

Fear Factory, the best industrial metal band on the planet. Their new cd is just as good as their old ones, but you simply cannot go past Demanufacture for the best mix between heavy metal and melodic vocals (at times)

Slipknot are awesome on record, and awesome in concert. Some people think they are sellouts already...but please who have they copied and when did they change their style of music?? Their new cd will be bloody good fletch, dont worry about that

 

[Magpie-Fletch]

Originally posted by Macca19


Fear Factory, the best industrial metal band on the planet. Their new cd is just as good as their old ones, but you simply cannot go past Demanufacture for the best mix between heavy metal and melodic vocals (at times)

Slipknot are awesome on record, and awesome in concert. Some people think they are sellouts already...but please who have they copied and when did they change their style of music?? Their new cd will be bloody good fletch, dont worry about that

Macca,

I'm not totally convinced on Digimortal yet, although Linchpin, What Will Become and the self titled song are all quality FF tracks. I just think it hasn't got the overall brilliance of previous albums like Demanufacture and my personal fave Obsolete. I'd compare it with SOANM in a way, because it has some good songs but lets itself down with some crap. I hope you're right on the next Knot album, I've just got this bad feeling with all the speculation that has been flying around about it.

Btw do you still use ICQ?

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by Magpie-Fletch


Macca,

I'm not totally convinced on Digimortal yet, although Linchpin, What Will Become and the self titled song are all quality FF tracks. I just think it hasn't got the overall brilliance of previous albums like Demanufacture and my personal fave Obsolete. I'd compare it with SOANM in a way, because it has some good songs but lets itself down with some crap. I hope you're right on the next Knot album, I've just got this bad feeling with all the speculation that has been flying around about it.

Btw do you still use ICQ?

hmm. The first few times i listened to it i thought it was pretty average. But since then ive listened to it every day ive had it (about 6 weeks now)...i find the only 2 bad songs are Back the F*ck Up, that is pretty bloody bad and Never End, thats ordinary. I find every other song is replayable at a very loud volume. I actually find Linchpin to be one of the lesser songs on the album. Now Acres of Skin...that is a FF song!!!!! What a killer track that is. Invisible Wounds is the best slow metal song ive heard ever. Digimortal, Noone, What Will become, Byte Block are all solid tracks.
The 4 bonus tracks on the DigiPak are awesome as well.
I place Demanufacture as top FF album, then Digimortal or Obsolete depending on which day it is really. Obsolete has 2 or 3 standout tracks but isnt as solid the way thru as Digimortal is. Soul of a New Machine, altho a very very good record is just not up to the other three records standard...very raw and different.

Slipknot..ive heard 2 new songs and i have to say...WOW...awesome is all that comes to words. I hope they are on the new record.

My ICQ number is 16377173

 

[M29]

Originally posted by Macca19
Oasis are ********ty pop crap for the masses. Radiohead is the influence for bands like Coldplay, Travis, and even oasis.

What a toss of sh*te. Oasis based themselves around the beatles, The Jam, Jonny Marr and the Stone Roses. They did NOT get any influence of radiohead. Who I reckon after listening to Kid A and that new sh*t their putting out are finished.
Travis and Coldplay are also big Oasis fans and are influenced by them as well as other musicians.

 

[Basic]

Originally posted by Macca19


Elvis Presley, hahaha. now thats funny.

You obvious do not like that sort of music that NIN and others of their ilk perform. Anyone with half a brain can work out he is a great musician. The fact he has written, performed, recorded, programmed, mixed 3 albums by himself with only backing parts from other people proves he is a very accomplished musician who can play a lot of different instruments. The fact that Trent Reznor IS Nine Inch Nails again proves this point...He IS Nine Inch Nails, but he has the other band members for live shows, basically because you cannot play 5 or 6 different instruments at once. TIME MAGAZINE rated him as the Greatest and most influential musician of the 20th century. And i agree. Id like to see Noel Gallagher write an album where he plays guitars, bass, keyboards, piano, drums, synthesisers and also does the vocals all BY HIMSELF.

The fact you desregard Trent Reznor just shows your ignorance and arrogance to broaden your musical horizons.

jeez macca im sure i started this thread as "best bands" not lets all wish we could chug Trent Reznor. I have no idea how you can go on and on and on about him.. it's pretty sad that you run on energizers over a.. umm musican

 

[jod23]

Originally posted by Darky


Not attacking your right to an opinion at all, but on what particular songs do you base this opinion, that Black Sabbath and Tool are "noise" (I couldn't give a sh.it about Limp Bizkit)?

Just wondering if you can rattle off the names of the songs you have heard that you think are garbage, without having to look up song names on Napster.

Your own post defeats the purpose. Either way if i name songs or not, your not going to know if i just got them off napster or if i actually know them.

 

[Basic]

Originally posted by inflatable_daffy
you are suck a copy cat i made a subject favourite music and bands and because i get replyies u design one saying best bands.
U are such a try hard man..
******** u

Like jod said i'm sure you don't mean this. I mean if you truly wanted to make a point you would spell a four letter word right.
This thread wasn't "designed" to get posted on, I wanted to see what people though and if you read you will see I only wanted people to list modern bands and I had nothing to do with favourite music. Also I don't see how I can be a try hard since I don't care who does and doesn't post here I only started it because I got bored one night and didn't see anything worth posting on. It's plain to see you have some major security issues and you really need to get over yourself I wouldn't want to copy you if you were having mass casual sex with super models. Next time you post could you possibly tell me how the evolution of your opposable thumbs is coming along?

by the way I didn't design it I clicked a few buttons

-notice I didn't have to resort to pathetic play ground insults? you should try it sometime.
And another thing (3rd time i have edited this master piece of a post ) If your thread was so great and i only copied you to get posts it must have worked since i got more than you

 

[Basic]

Originally posted by jod23


Your own post defeats the purpose. Either way if i name songs or not, your not going to know if i just got them off napster or if i actually know them.

hehe nice one man

 

[Darky]

Originally posted by jod23


Your own post defeats the purpose. Either way if i name songs or not, your not going to know if i just got them off napster or if i actually know them.

Not if you mention which songs, and what it is you don't like about them. That might show that you have listened to the songs before making your judgement.

 

[Basic]

Originally posted by Darky


Not if you mention which songs, and what it is you don't like about them. That might show that you have listened to the songs before making your judgement.

good point but if he really wanted to I reckon he would of downloaded a few snippets of the songs by now listened to them.
.. then again I don't think Jod would do that


(wow had to edit this one too)

 

[jod23]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Best Bands

Originally posted by Macca19


Silverchair are a sellout pure and simple. They will keep making music which will attract the young female population. I cant see how you say Korn is not a good band...every album has gone platinum, Follow the Leader is one of the highest selling cds of all time, and they basically pioneered the hard rock genre of today. Its obvious that you do not like metal or heavy music hence you saying they are sh!t. The fact that you think Jebediah is the best australia can offer proves that point i think. And even jebediah arent that good...there second cd was very dissapointing. Grinspoon, Living End, killing heidi (altho i cant stand them) and silverchair (and i hate them) have all done more than jebediah has.

The fact that you disrespect Trent Reznor and NIN proves you either dislike that sort of music, or you havent neccesarily heard much of their music. If you think they are 'heavy' you are wrong as well. Trent Reznor is one of the must musically talented artist on this earth. The fact that he has written 3 albums BY HIMSELF, playing all instruments BY HIMSELF and he was rated as the greatest and most infulential musician of ALL TIME proves this. The fact that DOwnward Spiral is one of the greatest albums ever created...and The Fragile in my personal view, is the best album of its sort ever made, and simply will not be passed. I mean i can find many flaws in your arguments, simply because i do not like the music.
Just because you dont like the music, doesnot mean they arent talented or are 'sh!t' as you put it.

Oh man your disturbed. For starters, selling albums doesnt make you a good band. So what if all of Korns albums have gone platinum, so have Britney Spears, u get it? Jebs second album was a big improvement on there first which leads me the suggest you dont really like Jebediah.

Its hard to sit here and respond without laughing my ass off because TR being the greatest and most influential musician of all time is just too hard to take. Trent Reznor has made heavy metal rock pop noise, how the hell is he influential????!!!??!!

John Lennon, that is someone who is influential. TR or John Lennon, gee tough one...... Downward Spiral or Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. You see Macca, NIN make pop metal crap for the masses, not quality music.

And as far as writing and playing everything himself, big deal McCartney did that years ago. I might add another real music GOD.

 

[Darky]

Originally posted by Basic


good point but if he really wanted to I reckon he would of downloaded a few snippets of the songs by now listened to them.
.. then again I don't think Jod would do that

Over the years, I have heard the words "I don't like that heavy metal crap" uttered by many people. When asked why that is, they are usually at a loss to answer, mainly because they based their opinion on one song, or none at all!

Obviously I don't know how much Black Sabbath Jod23 has heard, which is why I wanted clarification.
It might surprise a few people that a few songs or riffs they have heard, are actually Black Sabbath songs. Jod might luv 'em and not even know it!

 

[Basic]

Originally posted by Darky

...Jod might luv 'em and not even know it!

Sorry to burst your bubble but I don't think so jod tends to be pretty cluey on what he listens to and who it's by.

 

[jod23]

Originally posted by Macca19


What or who are the grammys to decide whos a great band?? Just because a band wins a grammy does not mean they are great. I mean Kid Rock won a grammy...so did Milli Vanilli and they were fakes so there you go.
The real basis is on album sales, not what a panel of 10 think is great. I cannot stand Oasis, yes they are a good band, but to say they are easily the best band in the last decade is again a joke. I could name 50 other bands that are better. Maybe Oasis is the best band in the GENRE of music they perform (pop rock for the masses). The fact that one of the gallagher brothers (cant remember which one) is an absolute fukwit also tends to put people of them a bit as well.

Great bands are in NO way made on album sales, as i said above that Britney Spears sells tonnes of albums but her music is sh!t. Your a great band if you have great music and Oasis have great music. They are easily the best band of the last decade and nobody can put an album up against Definiftly Maybe and Whats the Story and come out on top. Oasis had a profound influence on the world when they arrived in the early mid 90's. It was like a second coming of the Beatles kinda. To say that 50 bands have been better is a joke.

 

[Macca19]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Best Bands

Originally posted by jod23


Oh man your disturbed. For starters, selling albums doesnt make you a good band. So what if all of Korns albums have gone platinum, so have Britney Spears, u get it? Jebs second album was a big improvement on there first which leads me the suggest you dont really like Jebediah.

Its hard to sit here and respond without laughing my ass off because TR being the greatest and most influential musician of all time is just too hard to take. Trent Reznor has made heavy metal rock pop noise, how the hell is he influential????!!!??!!

John Lennon, that is someone who is influential. TR or John Lennon, gee tough one...... Downward Spiral or Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. You see Macca, NIN make pop metal crap for the masses, not quality music.

And as far as writing and playing everything himself, big deal McCartney did that years ago. I might add another real music GOD.

Well jod, you just dug your own hole this one. I will put money on it that ouve only heard 2 or 3 songs by NIN, one of which is StarF*ckers...the worst song he made.

Starters - Jebediahs first album ********s all over the second album. Just because i dont like an album, that means i dont like jebediah now does it??? I find it dissapointing and repetitive, and a step back from slightly odway. The fact that you think Nine Inch Nails is a 'heavy metal pop noise' band is disturbing. It shows you know nothing about the band or many of their songs. Shows that the only songs you know are the top 40 songs on video hits that are shown of his. Pantera is metal. Black Sabbath is metal. Nine Inch Nails is not metal. You listen to The Frail, Hurt, Head Like a Hole, the Wretched, Were in this Together, the day the world went away, into the void, the way out is thru, please, ripe, and you show me the crunching metal guitars, the screaming grunting vocals and heavy drumming??

You idiot. NIN is the furthest thing from metal. You might as well call Prodigy metal because they made firestarter and that had guitars in it. NIN is classed as industrial, or gothic rock. Skinny Puppy pioneered it in the 80s, NIN has made it into an art form.

So please tell me these 'metal' songs of NIN's??? Im gonna love hearing this.

Fact is, you obviously dont like any music that isnt teenybopper style...which is fair enough...that doesnt mean that people in the 'heavy' field arent talented or indeed the most influential artist of the 20th century. Trent is the modern day Lennon.

Im still trying to get over the fact that because i dont like the second jeb album i suddenly ' dont like them much at all'


To say that noone can put a record near Definatly Maybe is an absolute joke in itself. Great bands arent made on grammy winnings either by the way. You obviously in love with Oasis...i think they are commercial alternative crap made by 2 brothers who just wanted to get popular so they made it as commercial as you could. Second coming of the beatles my arse. Youve severly overrated this band. You say that...yet i look up websites where people have voted, or a place like the billboard top 50 of all time, or on american sales and there is no oasis album there. In YOUR view Oasis have great music...in many others it sounds repetitive and whiny and boring. But i do believe they are talented in what they do.

In my view Mark Knopler is THE musical god. He is my musical hero and always will be. You may or may not agree and i dont care. Trent Reznor is second because what he does is magic.

BASIC: - your damn right jod is cluey about his music. So cluey he cant even recognise great musical genius's from other genres. And by the fact he comsiders NIN a metal type band proves he knows nothing about the band or heard much if any more than 1 or 2 songs from them.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by jod23


Great bands are in NO way made on album sales, as i said above that Britney Spears sells tonnes of albums but her music is sh!t. Your a great band if you have great music and Oasis have great music. They are easily the best band of the last decade and nobody can put an album up against Definiftly Maybe and Whats the Story and come out on top. Oasis had a profound influence on the world when they arrived in the early mid 90's. It was like a second coming of the Beatles kinda. To say that 50 bands have been better is a joke.

bull********. Radioheads OK Computer and Nirvanas Nevermind (altho i dont like nevermind) are two albums that ******** on Oasis's album. OK Computer has been rated in many different musical polls as the greatest album of alltime. RHCP Californication and Blood sugar sex magick are both better than oasis's two albums. The Fragile by NIN ********s over oasis albums. Its very hard to cross genres, as bands that are worshipped in some eyes are thought of as crap in others. I would rate Pantera 'Vulgar Displays of power' as the best metal album ever made...and in the top 10 albums of the 90s.
Profound influence on teh world?? They found that one gallagher brother was an overly talented musician, and the other was a drunken fukwit.

you say 'a great band has great music'...well who chooses great music?? you?? me?? time magazine?? billboard?? you cant...if you were to choose the top 30 albums of alltime youd probably have about 25 or 26 different choices than me. as you like different genres of music as mine.
The better oasis album is whats the story...i own it...and i thought after 3 or 4 listens it gets boring and replayability factor is minimal.
but thats my opinion...i think Californication is one of the greatest albums ever made...not many other would think that.

all i have to say is, we arent going to agree. I like tons of music, metal and electronis being my favourite types...but you seem set on one genre...and the fact you call NIN a metal band makes me beleive what darky said...your the type that hears one song and automatically assumes things about them on one song.

 

[jod23]

Well Macca, tell me this. IF you dont like Jebediahs second album and taking onto consideration they only have 2 albums how can you like Jebediah. That only means you like a few of there songs. There second album i think is a step forward but some of there b sides are the best music they have done so far (Tracksuit, The LEss Trusted Pain Remover). Slightly Oddway is there classic album for it was there arrival and one hell of a debut album, so i dont think Of Someday Shambles will ever stand up to it nonetheless a step forward.

Its very hard to sit here and argue with you when you believe Trent Reznor to be a modern day John Lennon LMFAO!!! IF he was then we would all know his music. Ill be hoest i dont know tonnes of NIN stuff because of the fact that i dont like them, the stuff i have heard i dislike therefore they suck. I know good music and if Trent made good music i would sit up and take notice but unfortunatly he makes crap music.

You continue to diss Oasis with no real substance behind your comments. They are the greatest band of the last ten years and made stuff like Dont Look Back In Anger, WonderWall, Shes Electric, Cast No Shadow, Whats the Story Morning Glory, Cigerettes and Alcohol... the list goes on and on of classic tunes off Whats the Story and Definitely Maybe. Forget the musicians and Liam, im really talking about Noel. He writes all the songs, he's the genius.

Noel Gallagher makes Trent Reznor sound like Rolf Harris.

The only salvation i see for you is your kind of liking for Jebediah and finally you like someone with real musical prowess in Mark Knoffler. I dont get how you can think Knoffler is a musical god (which he certainly is) and then believe TR is the second coming of Lennon. Your truly warped my friend.

Now this argument cant really go on any further as music is all about opinion.

You cant have an opinion on something like basketball and Micheal Jordan, he's the best he showed that by winning all those championships. But thats the problem with music you cant be the best at it, it doesnt matter how many albums you sell or how many number 1 songs you have. It all about opinion.

So Macca you can think and believe that TR is a musical god (LOL) and i can like what i like. End of story.

 

[FIGJAM]

Originally posted by M29
What a toss of sh*te. Oasis based themselves around the beatles, The Jam, Jonny Marr and the Stone Roses. They did NOT get any influence of radiohead. Who I reckon after listening to Kid A and that new sh*t their putting out are finished.
Travis and Coldplay are also big Oasis fans and are influenced by them as well as other musicians.

I agree Oasis doesn't really get any musical influence from Radiohead's music, although they would benefit substantially if they did. Radiohead paved the way for the modern wave of Pommie bands, but someone else would have done it anyway eventually. Oasis are a fair band and I'd wouldn't change the channel if they're on the radio.

Interesting to notice how Oasis always dumps on other artists, but has never said anything negative about Radiohead. When a band constantly releases albums that can be mentioned in the same breath as Sgt Peppers, Exile, Pet Sounds, Dark Side et al., even the stubborn Oasis know when they are beat!

Travis and Coldplay are to Radiohead what Herman's Hermits and Gerry and the Pacemakers were to the Beatles. Watered down music and lyrics, which rides in the coat-tails of a significantly better band who pioneers their own unique style of music.

Coldplay (who cites Jeff Buckley and Radiohead as their primary influences) and Travis also went running to Nigel Godrich screaming "make us sound great like Radiohead". It was Radiohead who made Godrich famous, not the other way around.

Kid A is a landmark album in the history of modern music. I fully understand that there are people out there that dispise it. There are people who completely hate Pink Floyd, but that doesn't make Dark Side of the Moon any less brilliant in my eyes!

Amnesiac which is released on Monday is the best album I have ever heard. Period. It is a cross between Kid A and OK Computer. I wager it will go number 1. Finished M29? In what regard?

Pushing musical boundaries together with emotional lyrics and delivery is Radiohead's style and should be encouraged in today's generic crap (ie. Creed, Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind). Whether you like their music or not, their importance in today's music is unparalelled.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by jod23
Well Macca, tell me this. IF you dont like Jebediahs second album and taking onto consideration they only have 2 albums how can you like Jebediah. That only means you like a few of there songs. There second album i think is a step forward but some of there b sides are the best music they have done so far (Tracksuit, The LEss Trusted Pain Remover). Slightly Oddway is there classic album for it was there arrival and one hell of a debut album, so i dont think Of Someday Shambles will ever stand up to it nonetheless a step forward.

Its very hard to sit here and argue with you when you believe Trent Reznor to be a modern day John Lennon LMFAO!!! IF he was then we would all know his music. Ill be hoest i dont know tonnes of NIN stuff because of the fact that i dont like them, the stuff i have heard i dislike therefore they suck. I know good music and if Trent made good music i would sit up and take notice but unfortunatly he makes crap music.

You continue to diss Oasis with no real substance behind your comments. They are the greatest band of the last ten years and made stuff like Dont Look Back In Anger, WonderWall, Shes Electric, Cast No Shadow, Whats the Story Morning Glory, Cigerettes and Alcohol... the list goes on and on of classic tunes off Whats the Story and Definitely Maybe. Forget the musicians and Liam, im really talking about Noel. He writes all the songs, he's the genius.

Noel Gallagher makes Trent Reznor sound like Rolf Harris.

The only salvation i see for you is your kind of liking for Jebediah and finally you like someone with real musical prowess in Mark Knoffler. I dont get how you can think Knoffler is a musical god (which he certainly is) and then believe TR is the second coming of Lennon. Your truly warped my friend.

Now this argument cant really go on any further as music is all about opinion.

You cant have an opinion on something like basketball and Micheal Jordan, he's the best he showed that by winning all those championships. But thats the problem with music you cant be the best at it, it doesnt matter how many albums you sell or how many number 1 songs you have. It all about opinion.

So Macca you can think and believe that TR is a musical god (LOL) and i can like what i like. End of story.

Just because i like a band doesnt mean i have to like everything they put out. I like Sepultura but their Against album was sh!thouse. I like Jebediah...they are good live, and they have some alright tunes. I find their best album to be Twitch, then Slightly Odway then SomeDay Shambles. Someady Shambles is a reasonable album, but a lot of the songs sound too similar, and it is very very mellow, and not as upbeat as the Slightly Odway. Slightly Odway wants to make you jump around in your bedroom...Someday Shambles makes me feel like i should sit down and cry my eyes out. Twitch is the best one altho it is only an EP with 4 or 5 tracks on it.

Now you say Trent is not a musical god, yet you havent heard much of his stuff...his BETTER stuff which isnt the commercial stuff. StarF*ckers is the worst song he has made...i dont like Closer which is his most famous song. His three mainly commercial songs are all thrashy guitary....his ballads are somewhat amazing like Hurt, WEre in this Together etc. I strongly suggest you listen to The Fragile..the WHOLE album and then you may change your mind...because it is a fantastic album.

The reason i do not agree with your Oasis statement is that bands like Oasis come and go all the time. Blur did what Oasis was doing 7 or 8 years before that, and are a much bigger and more influential band than Oasis. You list all these songs by Oasis, and only 2 or 3 (the singles) were great songs..the others didnt get released as a single. Your willing to pass judgement on Nine Inch Nails by the singles they released, when there is no way the NIN singles are the best NIN songs...and im sure its probably the same with Oasis as well.


Knopler is the greatest guitarist this world has seen...Dire Straits was the first band i ever really liked (back when i was 4) and still are my all time favourite band.

Dont pass judgement on Trent Reznor when youve admitted to only hearing a few of his songs.

Oasis best band in the last 10 years...nowhere near. Red Hot Chilli Peppers by the length of the straight follwed by Rage Against the Machine, Stone Temple Pilots, NIN, Prodigy then Oasis, Pearl Jam with Korn, Soundgarden and Sepultura close behind with Matchbox 20, Britney Spears, 5ive and Steps bringing up the rear a few miles behind.

 

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Originally posted by jod23

You continue to diss Oasis with no real substance behind your comments. They are the greatest band of the last ten years and made stuff like Dont Look Back In Anger, WonderWall, Shes Electric, Cast No Shadow, Whats the Story Morning Glory, Cigerettes and Alcohol... the list goes on and on of classic tunes off Whats the Story and Definitely Maybe. Forget the musicians and Liam, im really talking about Noel. He writes all the songs, he's the genius.

You've left out: Don't Go Away, Whatever, Roll With It, Stand By Me.