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Ben Marsh would've been a star in footy was a non contact sport.
 

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Scott Hodges there's no reason he couldn't have been a great AFL player.

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Scotty hould have been. Injuries crippled him in 91-93. Still manged 95 goals from 33 games. Then he quit. Injuries got better as he kicked 100 goals each year in 94-96. We did bring him back in 96 but Mods was always number 1.
 
Scott Hodges there's no reason he couldn't have been a great AFL player.
Obviously with Hodges there’s the whole mental side of not being fully committed to the club, also being John Cahill’s son-in-law didn’t help and neither did the knee injury he picked up at the end of 1990, but watching back at some of Hodges games especially those playing alongside Modra there’s some physical attributes that become noticeable why his SANFL success didn’t translate over to AFL level.

Being only 185cm and not overly ‘built’ he needed to have an outstanding physical attribute or real freakish talent for the AFL level and he just didn’t have one, Modra may have only been 3cm taller but had the leap, speed off the mark and ridiculous ground level nouse and Allen Jackovich & Peter Daicos only got away with playing the role at the time at a similar height because of their totally freakish ground level game where as Hodges certainly wasn’t the quickest when the ball was below his knees.

Also the full-backs were stronger and quicker at AFL level and when Hodges tried to engage with them they would match him strength wise and that lost yard post-knee injury meant he couldn’t reliably beat them on a lead.
Ben Marsh would've been a star in footy was a non contact sport.
For mine it was more of the non-contact ACL injury with Marsh, swear part of Blight’s reasoning for why Modra leaving wouldn’t hurt is because he believed that Ben Marsh would be the second-coming of Paul Salmon and had trained him all 1999 pre-season to play as the permanent full-forward that year… 10 minutes into the season it was over. Was originally already coming from a long way back to just make it at the level in the first place and moved like a bear on stilts post-ACL.
 
Brad Crouch.

I guess you could argue that he "made it" in that he managed to win a B&F, but I feel there was potential for a hell of a lot more but the injuries prevented him from achieving that potential.
 
Easily the best Crow that never quite made it for mine is Peter Vardy, the man had so much natural talent and some really strong physical attributes to match. His 1998 semi-final is a top 10 performance by any Crow, could kick it 60m and bullock his way past would be tacklers at ease. Must’ve spent all 1998 post-GF celebrating way too hard because after that he was never really the same was always injured/not fit enough and rode the bench for most of the next 3 seasons when he was selected before like so many of the premiership players being ‘Ayers’d’ out the club. Had one decent year at Melbourne post-Crows.

Wouldn’t surprise me if Vardy, like fellow ‘Ayres’d’ out players like Bond, Koster, Thiessen, James ect. partly had their AFL careers shortened not only because of Ayres but because of the ridiculous heavy-load training forced on them in the 1997-1998 period, got 2 flags but the players bodies paid the price in the following years, Roo’s groin and McLeod’s knee were long-term casualties of it as well.
 
Special mention to James Begley too, from memory was excitement around when he came back from St Kilda, thought he was going to be good and watching back in recent years had some great games to start his career as a Crow before fading into that weird James Gallagher/Hayden Skipworth/Andrew Crowell/Chris Ladhams group of players that rotated as the last spot on the bench types before being delisted.
 

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No, James Begley is severely underrated. He was a role player like Doubty an even more severely underrated players.

EDIT: Only played 61 AFL games despite having more talent than that. So fits the thread.
 
The biggest tragedy is that Ian Callinan wasn’t picked up earlier. Absolute weapon.
 
The biggest tragedy is that Ian Callinan wasn’t picked up earlier. Absolute weapon.
Best dual sided kick I've seen other than Tex. Remember one game he kicked like 4 goals, most from impossible angles and nearly all on his "wrong" foot.
 
Obviously with Hodges there’s the whole mental side of not being fully committed to the club, also being John Cahill’s son-in-law didn’t help and neither did the knee injury he picked up at the end of 1990, but watching back at some of Hodges games especially those playing alongside Modra there’s some physical attributes that become noticeable why his SANFL success didn’t translate over to AFL level.

Being only 185cm and not overly ‘built’ he needed to have an outstanding physical attribute or real freakish talent for the AFL level and he just didn’t have one, Modra may have only been 3cm taller but had the leap, speed off the mark and ridiculous ground level nouse and Allen Jackovich & Peter Daicos only got away with playing the role at the time at a similar height because of their totally freakish ground level game where as Hodges certainly wasn’t the quickest when the ball was below his knees.

Also the full-backs were stronger and quicker at AFL level and when Hodges tried to engage with them they would match him strength wise and that lost yard post-knee injury meant he couldn’t reliably beat them on a lead.

For mine it was more of the non-contact ACL injury with Marsh, swear part of Blight’s reasoning for why Modra leaving wouldn’t hurt is because he believed that Ben Marsh would be the second-coming of Paul Salmon and had trained him all 1999 pre-season to play as the permanent full-forward that year… 10 minutes into the season it was over. Was originally already coming from a long way back to just make it at the level in the first place and moved like a bear on stilts post-ACL.

Hodges was ths same height as Mods and had a leap and speed

 
Hodges was ths same height as Mods and had a leap and speed


I know google says that but heights with footballers have always been a bit dodgy, Hodges was a tiny bit shorter than Mods, even from booklets and almanacs I have from around the time Hodges was always listed at 185/186cm whereas Mods was listed as 188/189cm. Of course Hodges had talent so he could for sure still get on top of an opponent, more so when Crows beat up on teams at home and he had lots of supply, but it was never consistent, he was always a great reader of play so he could find space on a lead despite not having the very quick first few metres like Modra had.

As I mentioned if you watch games from that time what didn’t help him is he used to get sucked into grappling with the full-backs at AFL level too much for someone his size rather than finding that space and separation, which I reckon frustrated Graham Cornes which is why sometimes he would move him higher up the ground and play Jameson or Modra at full-forward instead at times in those ‘91 & ‘92 seasons.
 

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I’ve posted about it before but that 09 team was full of players who had a great season and didn’t go on with it

Was Craig system that cut them up at the time. Made them look better than what they were. Some got on the end of it, made them look better than what they were. Oatey handball

Mark Stevens up and firing was a dead set gun

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Here’s a few left-fielders:

Seb Packer (1992 concession selection) - career destroyed by severe knee injuries without even playing a game. Kid had real talent.

Mathew Kluzek (1994 PSD) - stunning matching winning performance kicking 5 goals from a forward pocket in only his 3rd AFL game enabling a narrow win against eventual 1994 Premier WCE. Pity he only kicked a further 7 goals in his next 21 games before delisting.

Ben Marsh (1997 RD). Got his chance in 1998, showed plenty of promise and played in the GF. Looked like he was the man to take over from Shaun Rehn in 1999 when Rehn did his knee in the preseason on that plastic disc in the centre circle. Unfortunately Ben did his knee in R1 a week or 2 later and was never the same player on his return despite playing another 30 odd games with Matt Clarke taking over the leading ruckman role.

Trent Hentschel (2002 PSD) - career destroyed by a severe knee injury in late in season 2006 Showdown. Was on the verge of breaking out as a star of the competition. A major blow to our 2006 premiership chances..
 
Begley never the same after that outrageous Byron Pickett snipe
 
Scott Hodges. geez, after that 1990 season (mind you i was only 7 but watched a lot of his games and remember the 90 GF very well) he should have kicked a lot more than he did for the crows and played more. that knee injury in the 90 GF stuffed him up didnt it? and getting injured on the eve of the 93 season was a real sliding doors moment in the history of the Adelaide footy club... if Hodges was fit round 1 against Richmond that year Modra doesnt play that game and kick 10...
 
Begley never the same after that outrageous Byron Pickett snipe
Because of dodgy shoulders the fade started even before that hit, like I mentioned was one of those peripheral players under Ayres who was probably good enough to be given some midfield time but because of Roo, McLeod, Edwards & Goodwin no one else saw time in there given there was no rotations used back then.

Ayres like was the style with a lot of coaches back then was so ridged in who played where and just played man-on-man all over the ground so he screwed a lot of solid footballers over with minimal opportunities. He just didn’t know where to fit certain non-star players and would play them on flanks for a couple of games or for 10 minutes off the bench then drop them.
 
Scott Hodges. geez, after that 1990 season (mind you i was only 7 but watched a lot of his games and remember the 90 GF very well) he should have kicked a lot more than he did for the crows and played more. that knee injury in the 90 GF stuffed him up didnt it? and getting injured on the eve of the 93 season was a real sliding doors moment in the history of the Adelaide footy club... if Hodges was fit round 1 against Richmond that year Modra doesnt play that game and kick 10...
Despite my pathological hate for all things Port, Hodges was one player I did like from there. Really wanted him to be a gun for us.

He never really looked at ease playing for us which was regrettable. Probably suffered from the PA vs the Rest stigma?

Ironically, I read that he actually supports Collingwood in the AFL, not the Paer.
 

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