Opinion Best Current Players from each Guernsey Number

[September 27 2008]

Must admit I did have a little trouble with a couple. Came down to

22 Goldstein/Moloney
41 Mumford/Foley
17 Cooney/Newman
7 Hayes/Fyfe

Really didn't have to think about 34 and 40. Carlton bias is bias

 

[bebji]

1. Andrew Walker
2. Mark Lecras
3. Marc Murphy
4. Jobe Watson
5. Chris Judd
6. Josh Gibson
7. Lenny Hayes
8. Jack Riewoldt
9. Gary Ablett
10. Scott Pendlebury
11. Leigh Montagna
12. Nick Riewoldt
13. Dale Thomas
14. Joel Selwood
15. Luke Hodge
16. Jonathan Brown
17. Josh Kennedy
18. Brendon Goddard
19. Eddie Betts
20. Dean Cox
21. Dyson Heppell
22. Todd Goldstein
23. Lance Franklin
24. Jude Bolton
25. Sam Fisher
26. Nick Dal Santo
27. Matthew Stokes
28. Allen Christensen
29. Matthew Pavlich
30. Matthew Scarlett
31. Aaron Sandilands
32. Travis Cloke
33. Cyril Rioli
34. Alan Toovey
35. Paul Chapman
36. Dane Swan
37. Adam Goodes
38. Tom Rockliff
39. Heath Shaw
40. Jason Porplyzia
41. Shane Mumford
42. Liam Picken
43. Michael Hibberd
44. Corey Enright
45. Stewart Crameri
46. David Ellard
47. Luke Breust
48. Dylan Grimes

49. Ayce Cordy
50. Jeremy Taylor

Only made a few cahnges, and a few were borderline. Number 8 I thought Wells, Frawley and Riewoldt were all pretty even, although very different players. Bias gave jack the nod..

 

[Monkey King]

Really didn't have to think about 34 and 40.

Good list. #40 is in need of a rethink though. No Carlton bias. Just good sense.

 

[Monkey King]

Bias gave jack the nod..

I'd give the nod to Jack too. Pretty fair call IMO.

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

I'd give the nod to Jack too. Pretty fair call IMO.

Disagree. Frawley is a better player than Riewoldt and has more upside. Frawley will be the best KPD in the game in a couple of years, whilst Riewoldt will never be the best KPF in the game. Frawley for me, and easily.

 

[Silvagnis]

Really didn't have to think about 34 and 40. Carlton bias is bias

I wouldn't give up Garlett for Rockliff if you paid me.

In time, Gibbs, Yarran and Kreuzer will claim the rights to four, 13 and eight.

 

[the distributer]

Disagree. Frawley is a better player than Riewoldt and has more upside. Frawley will be the best KPD in the game in a couple of years, whilst Riewoldt will never be the best KPF in the game. Frawley for me, and easily.

So you rate KBs the equal of KFs?, if so, does that make Scarlett a better player than Buddy? Sorry mate, that's rubbish, no one and I mean no one would pick Frawley before Riewoldt, not even Frawleys mother.

 

[bebji]

Disagree. Frawley is a better player than Riewoldt and has more upside. Frawley will be the best KPD in the game in a couple of years, whilst Riewoldt will never be the best KPF in the game. Frawley for me, and easily.

Riewoldt has already won a coleman medal, and in a team that in round 10 was compared to fitzroy on its death bed, that would have to be pretty close to best KPF in the game for that year? Pretty sure the all Australian selectors might have agreed. Still I also rate Frawley, both very good players.

 

[bebji]

I wouldn't give up Garlett for Rockliff if you paid me.

In time, Gibbs, Yarran and Kreuzer will claim the rights to four, 13 and eight.

It's one thing to give a player up, but I think most teams without either player would take Rockliffe. Also Martin will quickly outshine Gibbs to be the best number 4 in the game, Yarran is a long shot, but I agree Kreuzer could easily become the best of the already well represented number 8 jumpers.

 

[Monkey King]

So you rate KBs the equal of KFs?

This is a similar line to what I was thinking. Donk's entitled to his opinion, but his reasoning didn't make a whole lot of sense considering KPF are the more valuable commodity. Who gives a toss if the KPD is the best and KPF the third best, imagine using that criteria for other positions - best BP vs 3rd best Mid for example.

Personally, I reckon being a Hawk supporter has influenced Donk's thinking more than he realises. The Hawks are crying out for a Frawley type, so perhaps this elevates his appreciation levels; whereas having the best key forward in the game probably limits his appreciation of a young Coleman medalist like Riewoldt. If it were the other way around, we might see a different rating emerge.

 

[Monkey King]

Also Martin will quickly outshine Gibbs to be the best number 4 in the game

Hold that thought. Gibbs' last couple of months really were outstanding and I've got a feeling he's going to have quite the year next year if the coaching staff give him the right roles. If things track a differently to the last couple of years, you might be in for a surprise.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Off September 27 2008's list

1. Andrew Walker
2. Jarryd Roughead
3. Marc Murphy
4. Jobe Watson
5. Chris Judd
6. Josh Gibson
7. Nathan Fyfe
8. Daniel Wells
9. Gary Ablett
10. Scott Pendlebury
11. Leigh Montagna
12. Nick Riewoldt
13. Dale Thomas
14. Joel Selwood
15. Luke Hodge
16. Jonathan Brown
17. Adam Cooney
18. Brendon Goddard
19. Eddie Betts
20. Dean Cox
21. Dyson Heppell
22. Brent Moloney
23. Lance Franklin
24. Jude Bolton
25. Sam Fisher
26. Nick Dal Santo
27. Matthew Stokes
28. Paul Puopolo
29. Matthew Pavlich
30. Matthew Scarlett
31. Aaron Sandilands
32. Travis Cloke
33. Cyril Rioli
34. Alan Toovey
35. Paul Chapman
36. Dane Swan
37. Adam Goodes
38. Tom Rockliff
39. Heath Shaw
40. David Wojcinski
41. Shane Mumford
42. Liam Picken
43. Michael Hibberd
44. Corey Enright
45. Stewart Crameri
46. David Ellard
47. Luke Breust
48. Seb Tape
49. Ayce Cordy
50. Jeremy Taylor

Changed 28. Christensen to Puopolo.

 

[robertg22]

lol - Christensen's 5x better than Puopolo mate..

 

[Hodgepodge]

lol - Christensen's 5x better than Puopolo mate..

He could well turn out to be, but he isn't at the moment.

 

[robertg22]

He really is

 

[the distributer]

Puopolo for me, going to be a star IMO.

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

lol - Christensen's 5x better than Puopolo mate..

5x... Lol wtf

Puopolo had a very good year.

 

[Monkey King]

lol - Christensen's 5x better than Puopolo mate..

I'm with you mate. Like Puopolo a lot, but Christensentakes the number IMO.

 

[the distributer]

I'm with you mate. Like Puopolo a lot, but Christensentakes the number IMO.

I went Puopolo because he's a unique player, wouldn't mind either though TBH.

 

[robertg22]

5x... Lol wtf

Puopolo had a very good year.

Haha sorry - yeah 5x is a stretch. I think Christensen is much better though.

 

[Liam Boy]

Ben Speight makes a bit of a case for 46, he and Ellard are very similar players though

 

[eth-dog]

1. Andrew Walker
2. Mark LeCtas
3. Marc Murphy
4. Jobe Watson
5. Chris Judd
6. Josh Gibson
7. Nathan Fyfe
8. Daniel Wells
9. Gary Ablett
10. Scott Pendlebury
11. Leigh Montagna
12. Nick Riewoldt
13. Dale Thomas
14. Joel Selwood
15. Luke Hodge
16. Jonathan Brown
17. Adam Cooney
18. Brendon Goddard
19. Eddie Betts
20. Dean Cox
21. Dyson Heppell
22. Todd Goldstein
23. Lance Franklin
24. Jude Bolton
25. Sam Fisher
26. Nick Dal Santo
27. Matthew Stokes
28. Allen Christensen
29. Matthew Pavlich
30. Matthew Scarlett
31. Aaron Sandilands
32. Travis Cloke
33. Cyril Rioli
34. Alan Toovey
35. Paul Chapman
36. Dane Swan
37. Adam Goodes
38. Jeff Garlett
39. Heath Shaw
40. David Wojcinski
41. Shane Mumford
42. Liam Picken
43. Michael Hibberd
44. Corey Enright
45. Stewart Crameri
46. David Ellard
47. Luke Breust
48. Seb Tape
49. Ayce Cordy
50. Jeremy Taylor

 

[Liam Boy]

I don't understand how anyone can put Moloney ahead of Goldstein as 22

 

[eth-dog]

I don't understand how anyone can put Moloney ahead of Goldstein as 22

I forgot Goldy was 22. Will fix that now

 

[BiggerPotential]

I don't understand how anyone can put Moloney ahead of Goldstein as 22

Because Moloney is equally as good, if not better than Goldstein?