Best Debut Season

Best Debut Season?


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captain cotch 9

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Stack has no doubt had an amazing debut season.
It got me thinking is it the best debut season that I've seen in my 28 years.
Richo kicked over 30 goals but i was only 2 or 3 so obviously cant remember it.
Deledio slotted in straight away and won the RS
Dusty the same as Lids and only didnt win the RS because he was suspended.
Everyone knows Stacks story but thats a moo point not IMO. The kids silk and a star.

Who has had the best debut season for the Tigers in your memory?
 

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tony__montana

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Dusty followed closely by Stack. Dont want to vote yet bc Stack still has a fair chunk of the season left
 

Tiger_Of_Old

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Stack certainly has had the best debut season of recent memory.
However you really can't go past my debut season here on BF back in 2000.
Broke all kinds of records.
Nominated 21 out of the 22 weeks as the BF rising star.
Multiple Posts of the week.
Poster of the year.
Chief Bitcoin medal!
:) :) :) :)
 

Dr Tigris

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Hard to pick. But Stack has shown so much talent from where he came I'll vote Sydney. Dusty was brilliant, but in some ways quite limited. He was all strength and attack. He didn't have the rounded game of Stack. Lids similar to Dusty. Richo was great, but didn't dominate in a similar way. Still 4 pretty good players in their first eyar
 

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By no means a definitive list, but here are first year averages for all the players I can think of that warrant a passing thought in their debut year. One name stands out for mine - Dustin Martin. In his debut year he had 20 or more disposals in 11 of his 21 games (and every other game was high teens).

I think it's fair to say kids are better prepared these days when see the impact they have as a collective through the years.

It's also fair to say we made some shocking draft selections and had poor development systems that showed through their individual struggles on the field.

Some of the figures would be tainted by that wonderful idea of the Substitute (2011 to 2015 - ah that lovely green vest), which some of these players would have had to contend with.

I included Jack Ross because we can only look on and wonder what might have been.

I think we also forget how good Cotchin was in his debut year for such a pint-sized player. That said it is also good to reflect on the impact Jack Higgins had in his debut year as well
Player/Year
Team​
GM
K
H
D
M
G
B
T
HO
FF
FA
GA
I50
CL
CG
R50
BL
Stack-2019​
13​
8.2​
9.1​
17.2​
5.4​
0.6​
0.3​
3.1​
0​
0.5​
0.4​
0.3​
2.5​
0.4​
1.4​
1.5​
Ross-2019​
5​
8​
9.8​
17.8​
2.6​
0.2​
0.2​
2.8​
0​
0.8​
0.8​
0.2​
3.8​
3​
1.8​
0.6​
Higgins-2018​
20​
7.5​
8.7​
16.2​
2.8​
0.8​
0.7​
2.5​
0​
1​
0.5​
0.8​
2.1​
1.6​
1.6​
0.5​
Graham-2017​
5​
6​
8​
14​
1.8​
1​
0​
7​
0​
2​
1​
0.4​
2.2​
3.2​
1.8​
1​
Rioli-2016​
18​
4.8​
5.4​
10.2​
2.5​
0.7​
0.3​
3.2​
0​
0.9​
0.6​
0.6​
1.7​
0.1​
1.6​
0.3​
Cellis-2015​
6​
3.3​
4.7​
8​
1.8​
0.5​
0.2​
1.7​
0​
0.3​
0.3​
0.5​
1​
1​
1.2​
0.3​
Lloyd-2014​
8​
7.2​
4.6​
11.9​
3.4​
1.2​
0.6​
3.5​
0​
0.9​
0.4​
0.2​
2​
0.4​
1.5​
0​
Vlastuin-2013​
18​
8.7​
7.6​
16.3​
4.8​
0.5​
0.2​
3.1​
0.1​
0.8​
0.8​
0.2​
2.1​
Bellis-2012​
21​
8.7​
7​
15.7​
3.8​
0.1​
0.4​
1.7​
0​
0.3​
0.5​
0​
1.3​
0.7​
1.8​
1.5​
Conca-2011​
17​
8.2​
7.4​
15.6​
4​
0​
0.3​
1.8​
0​
1.3​
1.5​
0.2​
1.6​
1.8​
2.7​
2.2​
Martin-2010​
21​
10​
10.2​
20.2​
2.4​
0.5​
0.3​
3.3​
0.2​
1​
1.4​
0.2​
3.5​
4.8​
3​
1.4​
0.29​
Vickery-2009​
9​
2.4​
6.2​
8.7​
2.4​
0.6​
0.1​
1.9​
8.8​
0.3​
0.8​
0​
0.4​
Rance-2009​
15​
4.6​
9​
13.6​
3.1​
0.1​
0.1​
2.9​
0.5​
1.1​
1​
0.2​
0.9​
Cotchin-2008​
15​
8.9​
7.5​
16.4​
4.9​
0.6​
0.3​
2.1​
0.1​
0.8​
0.4​
0.8​
2.2​
0.13​
Reiwoldt-2007​
8​
4.2​
2.4​
6.6​
3.1​
0.9​
0.4​
1.5​
0.4​
0.4​
0.2​
0.6​
1.4​
Deledio-2005​
22​
8.4​
6.8​
15.3​
3.9​
0.6​
0.5​
1.7​
0.3​
0.7​
0.5​
0.09​
Tambling-2005​
12​
6.1​
3.2​
9.2​
3.4​
0.8​
0.3​
2.1​
0​
0.2​
0.7​
Jackson-2004​
6​
5.2​
3.5​
8.7​
1.5​
0​
0​
3.5​
0.7​
0.7​
0.5​
Schultz-2003​
5​
2.4​
1.2​
3.6​
1.4​
0.8​
0.2​
0.2​
0​
0.2​
0​
Rodan-2002​
22​
5.7​
3.2​
8.9​
1.8​
0.8​
0.5​
1.4​
0​
0.2​
0.4​
Coughlan-2001​
5​
1.8​
2.6​
4.4​
0.8​
0​
0​
0.4​
0​
0.4​
0​
Fiora-2000​
7​
3​
1.4​
4.4​
2.1​
0.4​
0.4​
0​
0​
0.3​
0.3​
Dragacevic-1999​
17​
5.5​
4.1​
9.6​
1.9​
0.3​
0.2​
0.8​
0.1​
0.3​
0.2​
0​
Ottens-1998​
12​
2.5​
2.8​
5.2​
2.4​
0.2​
0.2​
0.4​
5.8​
0.6​
0.3​
Akellaway-1998​
16​
5.6​
6.9​
12.5​
4.6​
0​
0​
2.1​
0.2​
1.2​
0.4​
Chaffey-1997​
12​
5.8​
2.9​
8.8​
1.8​
0.2​
0​
0.9​
0​
0​
0​
Jbowden-1996​
5​
3.4​
2.8​
6.2​
1.4​
0.8​
0.6​
0.6​
0​
0​
0​
Bourke-1995​
15​
7​
2.3​
9.3​
2.3​
0.1​
0.1​
1​
0.7​
0​
0​
0.21​
Jurica-1995​
13​
4.5​
1.1​
5.6​
2.5​
1.6​
1.2​
0.5​
0.5​
0​
0​
Murphy-1994​
11​
5​
1.4​
6.5​
1.9​
0.8​
1.4​
0.4​
0​
0​
0​
Richo-1993​
14​
8​
3.8​
11.8​
6.6​
2.2​
1.7​
0.4​
0​
0​
0​
0.14​
 
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RunningBounce

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Stack is awesome. Done everything right. His even played multiple positions.

Richo still for me. 31 goals from 14 games in his first year in a genuinely poor team. Made a bigger difference to the club. Stack still has a finals series to go past him, though.

Before my time, but Doug Strang kicked 68 goals in his debut year. Gotta be mentioned in this conversation.
 

muzhogg

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Stack certainly has had the best debut season of recent memory.
However you really can't go past my debut season here on BF back in 2000.
Broke all kinds of records.
Nominated 21 out of the 22 weeks as the BF rising star.
Multiple Posts of the week.
Poster of the year.
Chief Bitcoin medal!
:) :) :) :)
Still waiting for you to back it up.

Dud. Delist. :)
 

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Jack Graham.
Only played 5 games but he was massive for us particularly in the grand final.
Him tagging Sloane and kicking 3 goals on him while keeping him to 5 touches went a long way to us winning.
Sloane was best on ground up until the point Graham was moved onto him.
 

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Sorry Maurice but Royce for me!
Showing your age there Mr Anfield :D
Player/Year
Team​
GM
K
H
D
M
G
B
T
HO
FF
FA
Mrioli-1982​
21​
13.7​
7.7​
21.4​
2.3​
0.9​
0.4​
0​
0.1​
2.4​
2.5​
Hart- 1967​
19​
10.7​
2.7​
13.4​
5.3​
2.9​
3.1​
0​
0​
1.5​
1.4​




 

RunningBounce

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Showing your age there Mr Anfield :D
Player/Year
Team​
GM
K
H
D
M
G
B
T
HO
FF
FA
Mrioli-1982​
21​
13.7​
7.7​
21.4​
2.3​
0.9​
0.4​
0​
0.1​
2.4​
2.5​
Hart- 1967​
19​
10.7​
2.7​
13.4​
5.3​
2.9​
3.1​
0​
0​
1.5​
1.4​




2.9 goals a game is bloody elite for anyone, let alone a skinny first-year player with poor eyesight!
 

Phar Ace

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Stack is awesome. Done everything right. His even played multiple positions.

Richo still for me. 31 goals from 14 games in his first year in a genuinely poor team. Made a bigger difference to the club. Stack still has a finals series to go past him, though.

Before my time, but Doug Strang kicked 68 goals in his debut year. Gotta be mentioned in this conversation.
Nothing available on Doug, but this was his son Geoff, became more than handy himself

Player/Year
Team​
GM
K
H
D
M
G
B
T
HO
FF
FA
GeoffStrang-1966​
17​
12.1​
1.1​
13.2​
3.2​
0​
0.2​
0​
0​
1.4​
1.8​
GeoffStrang-1965​
3​
9.7​
0.3​
10​
2.3​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0.7​
1.7​

PREMIERSHIP TIGER DREAMS OF A 1967 REPEAT

On September 27, 2017 By KB HillIn UncategorizedLeave a comment


Is there no stopping this Tiger army ? Like an invading force it marches on….. plundering those in its path, and converting new disciples along the way.
90,000, or more of them, proudly garbed in the tribal Yellow and Black, convened at football’s citadel on Saturday night. After another battle had been won, multitudinous, decibel-shattering renditions of the army’s War Cry rang out across inner-city Melbourne…………..
John Perry was there.
“It was moving stuff,” he says. “To see families – parents, their kids and grandkids – so happy; sharing the joy of a Richmond victory……I’d forgotten what it was like.”
…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
John’s football lineage is impeccable. His grandfather, Bill Strang, a hard-hitting ruckman and key forward, came from the bush, to play 69 games with South Melbourne, including the 1907 Grand Final.
Bill’s son Allan, followed him to the Swans. Another lad, Colin, made a couple of appearances with St.Kilda, whilst Doug and Gordon became household names when they arrived at Richmond in 1931.
Gordon (‘Cocker’) took 12 marks on debut , and proved a champion at either centre half forward or back, in 116 games with the Tigers. Doug was renowned as a magnificent mark. His ability to scale the heights, was balanced against his sometimes wayward kicking. However, this was not apparent in his second VFL game, when he booted 14 goals against North Melbourne.
Doug’s son, Geoff ( John’s cousin) – a dashing half back flanker – was also to become a dual premiership star in Richmond’s strong sides of the late ’60’s……
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
John’s mum Edna (‘Bobby’) was just 12 when her parents first took her down to watch her brothers, Doug and Gordon, in action with the Tigers. One of her idols was their team-mate, the great ‘Captain Blood’, Jack Dyer.
“Jack made a bit of a fuss of Mum. She loved him,” John says.
“Our family owned the Blazing Stump Hotel, and, later on in Jack’s life he used to spend the week between Boxing Day and New Year with us. That was his annual ‘pilgrimage’.”
“He just enjoyed being among Richmond people, away from Melbourne. Fishing, shooting and relaxing – that was his ‘go’.”
“ Jack would regale me with the same footy tales that he’d told Mum, about my uncles. I couldn’t get enough of them.”
 

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Showing your age there Mr Anfield :D
Player/Year
Team​
GM
K
H
D
M
G
B
T
HO
FF
FA
Mrioli-1982​
21​
13.7​
7.7​
21.4​
2.3​
0.9​
0.4​
0​
0.1​
2.4​
2.5​
Hart- 1967​
19​
10.7​
2.7​
13.4​
5.3​
2.9​
3.1​
0​
0​
1.5​
1.4​




Maurice of course also won the Norm Smith in his debut year.

But he wasn’t exactly a rookie and had been best on field in the 2 previous WAFL Grand Finals.

3 BOGs in a row in Grand Finals - doubt that has ever been done before or since.
 

Mr Unbelievable

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Dusty for me .. I love Dusty. He started when there wasn't a strong team around him ... for me that's the biggest difference.
Dont get me wrong, Stacks looks a star !!
 

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Maurice of course also won the Norm Smith in his debut year.

But he wasn’t exactly a rookie and had been best on field in the 2 previous WAFL Grand Finals.

3 BOGs in a row in Grand Finals - doubt that has ever been done before or since.
Yeah good point, came over aged 23, a small parallel with Tim Kelly perhaps, had Geelong been good enough last season you could have contemplated something similar. Arguably a fair step up to VFL as it was still known. With still more opportunity for the AFL Clubs to wring the lower leagues dry it gets harder and harder for someone to to achieve similar.
 
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