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He seemed like a good dude, after all, he thought Nathan Buckley was a bullying campaigner and actually had the balls to risk (and basically lose) his career for it.
Really? He came across as a conceited and self-righteous w*nker who deluded himself into thinking he was some “gifted” prophet.
 
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Really? He came across as a conceited and self-righteous w*nker who deluded himself into thinking he was some “gifted” prophet.
The truth was probably somewhere in the middle. He was a narcissist, but he was also fairly troubled. Footy clubs aren’t the most accepting places for those who don’t fit a certain mould.
 
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The truth was probably somewhere in the middle. He was a narcissist, but he was also fairly troubled. Footy clubs aren’t the most accepting places for those who don’t fit a certain mould.
I think it's an example of playing up to a character.

If you're the only guy at a footy club who reads books, is into politics, thinks about travelling to places other than Las Vegas and Oktoberfest, then it's very easy to be seen as that bloke. And to have a nickname revolve around it. And jokes all about it. It becomes your only defining personality trait. It's an easy way to fit in and better than questioning it or whatever. Lots of people just play up to the image they think they have.
 
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I think it's an example of playing up to a character.

If you're the only guy at a footy club who reads books, is into politics, thinks about travelling to places other than Las Vegas and Oktoberfest, then it's very easy to be seen as that bloke. And to have a nickname revolve around it. And jokes all about it. It becomes your only defining personality trait. It's an easy way to fit in and better than questioning it or whatever. Lots of people just play up to the image they think they have.
There’s a few iconic figures in the sport’s history who have been seen as rebels or unconventional men and who have happily played up to the image. Lumumba was a real-life Geoff Hayward (The Club), who in turn was based on Brent Crosswell.

Once an image sticks, it’s hard to live down or alter - so yeah, why not play along with the game? You might as well carve a niche and be remembered, rather than be one of the plethora of 200-game stalwarts who don’t live long in the public mind. I can see that role being particularly attractive for someone who so clearly struggled for personal identity and security from an early age.
 
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Wow, next you'll be saying Vicpol let criminals off if they get paid too. Pathetic.
Excuse me? Your head appears to be in the sand. Your choosing to ignore the report highlighting the huge problem of predatory sexual behaviour within Victoria Police ranks. What do you think predatory sexual behaviour means? Wakey wakey.
 
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I think it's an example of playing up to a character.

If you're the only guy at a footy club who reads books, is into politics, thinks about travelling to places other than Las Vegas and Oktoberfest, then it's very easy to be seen as that bloke. And to have a nickname revolve around it. And jokes all about it. It becomes your only defining personality trait. It's an easy way to fit in and better than questioning it or whatever. Lots of people just play up to the image they think they have.
Bit like if the only copper in the station who wouldn't ride the town bike in the divi van hey ;)
 
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Thanks. Any more details about what made him a shit bloke?
There was a team painting or photo in the club rooms of Riewoldt, Dal Santo and a few other players that Watters wanted to take down as he felt the club was living in the past.

Apparently this was on his first or second day and it made the players dislike him straight away.

I think a confidentiality agreement was made when he got the sack to ensure most of what happened is kept quiet and won't effect him in getting further employment.
 

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There was a team painting or photo in the club rooms of Riewoldt, Dal Santo and a few other players that Watters wanted to take down as he felt the club was living in the past.
Usually you'd have photos or pictures of great club feats and players from past generations, having one of current players is drinking your own bath water IMO. Agree with Watters, but it sounds like he went about it the wrong way.
 
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There’s a few iconic figures in the sport’s history who have been seen as rebels or unconventional men and who have happily played up to the image. Lumumba was a real-life Geoff Hayward (The Club), who in turn was based on Brent Crosswell.

Once an image sticks, it’s hard to live down or alter - so yeah, why not play along with the game? You might as well carve a niche and be remembered, rather than be one of the plethora of 200-game stalwarts who don’t live long in the public mind. I can see that role being particularly attractive for someone who so clearly struggled for personal identity and security from an early age.
Yeah that's it. He's a guy who grew up in the housing commissions of Fitzroy (which can still be sketchy) in the 80s and then played for Claremont (the most affluent club in the most wanky suburbs in Perth). Is Brazilian though. Stands out too. Good at football but into different music and things like revolutionists and books.

He wasn't the most intelligent man alive and he wasn't a good speaker, but I always respected him giving that stuff airtime. It's a bit more interesting than some bloke on Fox Sports who's seen as 'grounded' because he likes fishing or 'cool' because he wears check shirts and knows about alternative acts like The Beatles and You Am I... at least he put himself out there and thought a bit differently.

I played amateurs for a year at a uni club and my reputation was I was so skinny I got winded every time the bags came out and did Arts. Easy to take that in your stride and see it as unique and a point of difference amongst the blokes who just played because their mate did sports science or economics there. I remember drinking a Coopers one night down someone's accommodation after training and people commented on it when they drank Export. I mean it's Coopers, not a sour-bitter Saison in a 703ml bottle in the shape of the Brussels Art Museum imported for $13 a bottle.

At clubs there's the fat bloke, the hero, the 'smart' guy, the bumbling fool, the tall gangly dude everyone assumes is dorky just because he looks that way. People play up to it.

In uni classes people would comment on me as being the bloke into footy, in classes that had 12 girls and a gay bloke. Ya know.

As you said, someone who never had identity and felt so confused about who he was, where he belonged, what he was actually supposed to be doing... it's easy to accommodate your 'serious, unique' side is easy if you're the guy who points out shit people shouldn't say.

Ultimately he felt bullied at a professional work environment. Yeah it's a footy club. The line's are blurred. But he had a right to stand up for whatever hw wanted to. Three years later and the AFL would have shat themselves about a bloke's nickname being 'Lesbian' and it would have been aided in Heritier Lumumba's side or just swept under the rug.

Ultimately he's just a dude very lost in Australia, who was probably talented at the wrong thing.
 
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Yeah that's it. He's a guy who grew up in the housing commissions of Fitzroy (which can still be sketchy) in the 80s and then played for Claremont (the most affluent club in the most wanky suburbs in Perth). Is Brazilian though. Stands out too. Good at football but into different music and things like revolutionists and books.

He wasn't the most intelligent man alive and he wasn't a good speaker, but I always respected him giving that stuff airtime. It's a bit more interesting than some bloke on Fox Sports who's seen as 'grounded' because he likes fishing or 'cool' because he wears check shirts and knows about alternative acts like The Beatles and You Am I... at least he put himself out there and thought a bit differently.

I played amateurs for a year at a uni club and my reputation was I was so skinny I got winded every time the bags came out and did Arts. Easy to take that in your stride and see it as unique and a point of difference amongst the blokes who just played because their mate did sports science or economics there. I remember drinking a Coopers one night down someone's accommodation after training and people commented on it when they drank Export. I mean it's Coopers, not a sour-bitter Saison in a 703ml bottle in the shape of the Brussels Art Museum imported for $13 a bottle.

At clubs there's the fat bloke, the hero, the 'smart' guy, the bumbling fool, the tall gangly dude everyone assumes is dorky just because he looks that way. People play up to it.

In uni classes people would comment on me as being the bloke into footy, in classes that had 12 girls and a gay bloke. Ya know.

As you said, someone who never had identity and felt so confused about who he was, where he belonged, what he was actually supposed to be doing... it's easy to accommodate your 'serious, unique' side is easy if you're the guy who points out shit people shouldn't say.

Ultimately he felt bullied at a professional work environment. Yeah it's a footy club. The line's are blurred. But he had a right to stand up for whatever hw wanted to. Three years later and the AFL would have shat themselves about a bloke's nickname being 'Lesbian' and it would have been aided in Heritier Lumumba's side or just swept under the rug.

Ultimately he's just a dude very lost in Australia, who was probably talented at the wrong thing.
none of the bitches mentioned you in class, i can tell from your post
 
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