Who does everyone think was the best player during the 90's. This is my top 4.
1. Tony Lockett
2. Jason Dunstall
3. Wayne Carey
4. Tony Shaw
1. Tony Lockett
2. Jason Dunstall
3. Wayne Carey
4. Tony Shaw
Best Player in the 90's
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Tony Shaw? he finished at the end of 1994, and hardly played a decent game after the 1990 Grand Final.
Lockett, very good, Dunstall also very good and Carey are excellent choices.
But aren't we forgetting an certain alledged drug addict from down Geelong way. (I said alledged)
87 goals from the half forward line in 1992,
113 goals from 17 games in 1993
120+ goals in 1994
120+ goals in 1995
70+ goals in 1996 from 15 games at the age of 34.
3 Coleman medals, 1 Norm Smith medal, not a bad player was he.
1. Ablett
2. Carey
3. Lockett
4. Silvagni
5. G. Williams
6. Buckley
7. Dunstall
8. Harvey
9. Matera
10.Hird
Special mentions to C.Grant, P.Couch, D.Kemp, S.Rehn and M.Voss
Lockett, very good, Dunstall also very good and Carey are excellent choices.
But aren't we forgetting an certain alledged drug addict from down Geelong way. (I said alledged)
87 goals from the half forward line in 1992,
113 goals from 17 games in 1993
120+ goals in 1994
120+ goals in 1995
70+ goals in 1996 from 15 games at the age of 34.
3 Coleman medals, 1 Norm Smith medal, not a bad player was he.
1. Ablett
2. Carey
3. Lockett
4. Silvagni
5. G. Williams
6. Buckley
7. Dunstall
8. Harvey
9. Matera
10.Hird
Special mentions to C.Grant, P.Couch, D.Kemp, S.Rehn and M.Voss
Carey
Lockett
Ablett
Jakovich (G)
Pess, Grendel - sorry I couldn't fit in Jase - he, Voss, Hird and Harvey at all at equal 5th.
If Hird and Long had been fit they'd have been pushing for a place. Reckon Hird might be close for this decade though....
Lockett
Ablett
Jakovich (G)
Pess, Grendel - sorry I couldn't fit in Jase - he, Voss, Hird and Harvey at all at equal 5th.
If Hird and Long had been fit they'd have been pushing for a place. Reckon Hird might be close for this decade though....
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Razza
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Carey
Hird
Ablett
Harvey
Shaw (that was a joke wasn't it?)
Hird
Ablett
Harvey
Shaw (that was a joke wasn't it?)
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Wayne Carey - end of arguement
Who else ? nobody really but a few champion players have had their best years in the 90's
Lockett
Ablett
Long
Matera
P Kelly
Buckley
R Harvey
Who else ? nobody really but a few champion players have had their best years in the 90's
Lockett
Ablett
Long
Matera
P Kelly
Buckley
R Harvey
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Longjohn
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All the way with BA.
Carey, and then who realy cares about the rest.
Carey, and then who realy cares about the rest.
Except in Grand Finals... this is where Dermie possibly pips him for influence... 8 in a team that get beaten by 80+ points in 85 was something special. Has Carey ever kicked more than 1-2 in a GF (Night or Day?)
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Harvey-back to back brownlows!!
Carey-he pretty damn good
Ablett-so fun to watch
Matera-5 goals in GF Norm Smith, awesome in full flight.
Dunstall-3rd all time goal kicking list.
Lockett-1st all time goal kicking list!
Jakovich-only man alive who can stop his majesty the king, and stop him well he can.
Honourable Mentions : Kemp, Dermie, Hird, Buckley.
2000 the year of the Eagle
Harvey-back to back brownlows!!
Carey-he pretty damn good
Ablett-so fun to watch
Matera-5 goals in GF Norm Smith, awesome in full flight.
Dunstall-3rd all time goal kicking list.
Lockett-1st all time goal kicking list!
Jakovich-only man alive who can stop his majesty the king, and stop him well he can.
Honourable Mentions : Kemp, Dermie, Hird, Buckley.
2000 the year of the Eagle
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Tony shaw in your top 4 "YOU DICKHEAD"...
1. Carey best since 94
2. Dunstall best before 94
3. Williams ,god that hurts to say
4. Lockett to lazy in his St.Kilda years and on a pocket ground in his Sydney ones to be top 3.
5. Matera just unstoppable mid 90's
6. Jarman may suprise some, but finals records stand out and was just so good to watch.
Then the rest of a pretty good bunch like Jakovich/Mckenna/Hird (sorry dutch he just missed to much footy to be ranked higher)Long/Silvangi/Harvey/Lyon (cant believe no one else even mentioned him)Buckley/Voss/Kouta/Wanganeen/Platten/Roos/
Hocking/Rehn so many really outstanding players.
Ablett? I wouldnt have him top ten for a couple of reasons one his finals record is very ordinary (it was 89 he dominated this is best of 90's) and could be so bloody LAZY with second efforts and when things were going against Geelong. But mainly I think his finals efforts in the 90's set me against selecting him. Remember its only an opinion
2. Dunstall best before 94
3. Williams ,god that hurts to say
4. Lockett to lazy in his St.Kilda years and on a pocket ground in his Sydney ones to be top 3.
5. Matera just unstoppable mid 90's
6. Jarman may suprise some, but finals records stand out and was just so good to watch.
Then the rest of a pretty good bunch like Jakovich/Mckenna/Hird (sorry dutch he just missed to much footy to be ranked higher)Long/Silvangi/Harvey/Lyon (cant believe no one else even mentioned him)Buckley/Voss/Kouta/Wanganeen/Platten/Roos/
Hocking/Rehn so many really outstanding players.
Ablett? I wouldnt have him top ten for a couple of reasons one his finals record is very ordinary (it was 89 he dominated this is best of 90's) and could be so bloody LAZY with second efforts and when things were going against Geelong. But mainly I think his finals efforts in the 90's set me against selecting him. Remember its only an opinion
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Longjohn
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So now he gets written off for following team instructions, I haven't seen him play his normal CHF/FF position in a Grand Final except 95 Night, 98, 2000 Night.
95 Night - definately in the best 3 tore Smaart apart.
96 - Best on ground should have had the Norm Smith wrapped up, but his own reputation beat him again.
98 Night - Micheal Tuck Medal
98 - It's just an empty space now
99 - scragged by sos for 2 hours and still got North's first and last goals, and turned the game when he became a midfielder.
2000 Night - Essendon did the job, but he lives to fight another day.
Dutchie, normally agree with what you have to say but not this time.
Fair dues LJ. Mostly just looking for a rise there....
Pretty hard to judge really - just cos Dermie played in a better side doesn't necessarily mean Carey is better (and vice Versa).
Still for some reason I prefer Dermie -
I think the reason is that Dermie did it against the best Essendon team I've ever seen and hurt us consistently for 6-7 years. Carey beat reasonable Essendon sides with 15 minutes of power probably for 4-5 years - not anymore though... so its totally subjective - plus when Derm was at his peak I was a teenager and as such he looked a lot bigger and scarier...
Push comes to shove I'd want both in my side anyday.... getting fed all day by James Hird, Leon Baker and Tim Watson - with Peter Matera kicking 60 metre bombs off a wing...
droooooolllllllllll
Pretty hard to judge really - just cos Dermie played in a better side doesn't necessarily mean Carey is better (and vice Versa).
Still for some reason I prefer Dermie -
I think the reason is that Dermie did it against the best Essendon team I've ever seen and hurt us consistently for 6-7 years. Carey beat reasonable Essendon sides with 15 minutes of power probably for 4-5 years - not anymore though... so its totally subjective - plus when Derm was at his peak I was a teenager and as such he looked a lot bigger and scarier...
Push comes to shove I'd want both in my side anyday.... getting fed all day by James Hird, Leon Baker and Tim Watson - with Peter Matera kicking 60 metre bombs off a wing...
droooooolllllllllll
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1.Tony Lockett
2.Wayne Carey
3.Jason Dunstall
4.Gary Ablett
5.Glen Jackovich
6.Robert Harvey
7.Andrew Mcleod
8.Darren Jarmen
9.Shaun Rehn
10.Ben Hart
11.Steven Silvagni
12.Craig Bradley
13.Michael Voss
14.Nathen Burke
15.Paul Kelly
16.Micheal long
17.Tony Modra
18.Jim Stynes
19.Corey McKernon
20.Chris Grant
they can go on and on and on but this started in an order but is hard to decide with out stats at my hand but I think I came close ?
My top 4 sucsessful clubs in 90's would be
1.West Coast
2.Nth Melbourne
3.Adelaide
4.Carlton
80's would definettly be Hawthorn
top 4 coaches I have seen
1.Malcolm Blight
2.Michael Mathouse
3.Kevin Sheedy
4.Dennis Pagen
special mention to Ron Barrasi, Neil Curley
and Lethal Leigh Matthews
top 4 players of all time
1. Russel Ebert SA port adel magpies
2. Barry Robran SA nth adelaide
3. Alex Jesalenko VIC Carlton
4. G.Polly Farmer
special mention to Mr Football E J Whitten
2.Wayne Carey
3.Jason Dunstall
4.Gary Ablett
5.Glen Jackovich
6.Robert Harvey
7.Andrew Mcleod
8.Darren Jarmen
9.Shaun Rehn
10.Ben Hart
11.Steven Silvagni
12.Craig Bradley
13.Michael Voss
14.Nathen Burke
15.Paul Kelly
16.Micheal long
17.Tony Modra
18.Jim Stynes
19.Corey McKernon
20.Chris Grant
they can go on and on and on but this started in an order but is hard to decide with out stats at my hand but I think I came close ?
My top 4 sucsessful clubs in 90's would be
1.West Coast
2.Nth Melbourne
3.Adelaide
4.Carlton
80's would definettly be Hawthorn
top 4 coaches I have seen
1.Malcolm Blight
2.Michael Mathouse
3.Kevin Sheedy
4.Dennis Pagen
special mention to Ron Barrasi, Neil Curley
and Lethal Leigh Matthews
top 4 players of all time
1. Russel Ebert SA port adel magpies
2. Barry Robran SA nth adelaide
3. Alex Jesalenko VIC Carlton
4. G.Polly Farmer
special mention to Mr Football E J Whitten
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Yeh there all really good playersbut there either forwards or midfielders what about som e of the great backman steven silvagni Sergio Silvangni Jackovich dutin letcher
and ets not forget the greatest player of all time tony GODRA modra
and ets not forget the greatest player of all time tony GODRA modra
The greatest players of the 1990's in order are :
1.) Ben Doolan
2.) Keenan Reynolds
3.) Darren Wheildon
4.) Mark Majerczak
5.) Anthony Banik
6.) Jeff Hogg
7.) Austin McCrabb
8.) Rayden Tallis
9.) Tony Begovich
10.) Adam Saliba
11.) Mark Richardson
12.) Dean Bailey
These players are easily the top 12 players of the 1990's. In order. I urge anyone to tell me why they aren't. Ben Doolan held down a spot in a strong Essendon team for a number of years......that's a great effort.
Keenan Reynolds was a consistent player for the Bulldogs in the early 90's, before playing with the strong North Melbourne team. Sure, he didn't play well at North, but why should that count against him, when his Footscray years were superb. He held the Doggies together.
Doc Wheildon, was full-forward in the struggling Fitzroy team. It takes a great player to kick goals in a losing team, and the "Doc" provided that.
Mark Majerczak at Carlton was a hero to the Blue army, while Banik and Hogg played regular senior football at the Tigers, often together ! Hogg led the goalkicking at the Tigers for a number of years...... in a battling team. That makes his heroics even more special.
As for Austin McCrabb and Rayden Tallis.....what more needs to be said. Adam Saliba wasa hero to the Adelaide faithful. His silky skills wee awe-inspiring.
The list goes on.....
1.) Ben Doolan
2.) Keenan Reynolds
3.) Darren Wheildon
4.) Mark Majerczak
5.) Anthony Banik
6.) Jeff Hogg
7.) Austin McCrabb
8.) Rayden Tallis
9.) Tony Begovich
10.) Adam Saliba
11.) Mark Richardson
12.) Dean Bailey
These players are easily the top 12 players of the 1990's. In order. I urge anyone to tell me why they aren't. Ben Doolan held down a spot in a strong Essendon team for a number of years......that's a great effort.
Keenan Reynolds was a consistent player for the Bulldogs in the early 90's, before playing with the strong North Melbourne team. Sure, he didn't play well at North, but why should that count against him, when his Footscray years were superb. He held the Doggies together.
Doc Wheildon, was full-forward in the struggling Fitzroy team. It takes a great player to kick goals in a losing team, and the "Doc" provided that.
Mark Majerczak at Carlton was a hero to the Blue army, while Banik and Hogg played regular senior football at the Tigers, often together ! Hogg led the goalkicking at the Tigers for a number of years...... in a battling team. That makes his heroics even more special.
As for Austin McCrabb and Rayden Tallis.....what more needs to be said. Adam Saliba wasa hero to the Adelaide faithful. His silky skills wee awe-inspiring.
The list goes on.....
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Paul Salmon and Shane Crawford might not be top 4 but should be among the ones dicussed here
I think Jarman (in crows guernsey)provided the best moments I have seen in the nineties
I find it hard to agree with Silvagni in any 'best of' He may have great talent but his type of play should be outlawed in my opinion so why reward it.
I think Jarman (in crows guernsey)provided the best moments I have seen in the nineties
I find it hard to agree with Silvagni in any 'best of' He may have great talent but his type of play should be outlawed in my opinion so why reward it.
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A slight twist ..
The 'IF ONLY' factor.
A. Lynch. A absolute superstar in 1993 in an average team , after being a solid fullback ( highly rated by Lockett ). Then something happened...
M. Richardson. Got the lot, including an unbelievable run of injuries. Will he EVER get it together ?
Any others ?
The 'IF ONLY' factor.
A. Lynch. A absolute superstar in 1993 in an average team , after being a solid fullback ( highly rated by Lockett ). Then something happened...
M. Richardson. Got the lot, including an unbelievable run of injuries. Will he EVER get it together ?
Any others ?
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Mark West of the bulldogs - pure poetry in motion on the infrequent times he's not been injured - He's been so unlucky
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Mark West can also be a thug, like Gary Moorcroft. I remember him using the ol’ elbow-to-the-head trick against the Crows in ’97.
Until this year, Koutafides would have qualified as an ‘if only’ player, as someone who had all the attributes of a superstar and yet wasn’t.
Until this year, Koutafides would have qualified as an ‘if only’ player, as someone who had all the attributes of a superstar and yet wasn’t.
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