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Just would've loved to have seen Penny and Grant Hill not have bodies that broke...

Not that I think they would challenge Jordan and James' legacys, but it may certainly have been an interesting discussion had those two stayed healthy. The Magic may well have had a few titles by now.
 
Not that I think they would challenge Jordan and James' legacys, but it may certainly have been an interesting discussion had those two stayed healthy. The Magic may well have had a few titles by now.
They couldn't pull that off with a healthy Penny and Shaq when Jordan was out of the league. How in gods name would they have a few titles by now?
 
They couldn't pull that off with a healthy Penny and Shaq when Jordan was out of the league. How in gods name would they have a few titles by now?
A fully fit and firing Grant Hill with T-Mac back in his prime. You bring in a decent big man, a pass first PG and you make deep runs in the playoffs. Jordan retired in 98. Hill went to Orlando around the same time. Had he not done his ankle, would have been interesting to see how Orlando would have gone.
 

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They couldn't pull that off with a healthy Penny and Shaq when Jordan was out of the league. How in gods name would they have a few titles by now?

I did say "may". We will never really know. Jod made my point well. I really think a fit Hill and Penny surrounded by some solid role players would get a title. I don't think they would need a pass first PG though, Hill and Penny were brilliant playmakers.
 
Whilst it would be a matchup for the ages, is LeBron that great of a defender. I think he is a very good defender and a hell of an athlete but is he quick enough to guard Jordan on the perimeter? He is 6'8 and carrying a lot more muscle. Jordan in my opinion was the perfect balance between strength and speed. He was 6'6 but about 190. LeBron is what, 6'8 and 240? Could LeBron go with him. Im not so sure.

Obviously as an athlete LeBron is crazy but im not sure that would bother Jordan too much. Jordan often beat people with pure athleticism, jump over them, dunk on them, too quick, too strong but later in his career he started beating people with his brain. LeBron is a great defender but nobody and I mean nobody can do anything about Jordan's fadeaway jumper. I saw him at 40 in his last All Star Game hit a fade away jumper in the post to win the game over Marion. Marion is 6'9/6'10 and can jump over anyone. Yet at full stretch, he could do nothing about Jordan's shot, which duly went in. Cant remember who ruined it by fouling Kobe on a long three so that Jordan's shot wasnt the game winner. But that was MJ at 40.

As athletic as LeBron is, I still dont think he could do much to slow Jordan down. Jordan just had way too much in his locker. He could do anything on offense, score in so many different ways. Absolute nightmare.

Also there is Jordan's competitive mind. If we were lucky enough to witness it, and the hype that people talk about it. Jordan would work himself into a frenzy. I remember whenever anybody came out with a Jordan stopper, Detriots Jordan Rules, anything that went public to try to stop MJ, he made it a mission to o completely destroy, and destroy all he would. But he is the GOAT after all so...

Jordan played at 218.

LeBron is closer to like 260 though.
 

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