Best player to have the least Brownlow votes?

[John Who]

Not sure if this topic actually makes sense, but would be interesting to see the kind of responses - who do you think is one of the all time greats with zero to minimum Brownlow votes? I guess another way of looking at it, is who is the best player you've seen that barely gets a vote or a mention in the Brownlow awards?
Possible groups:
- defenders
- forwards (especially ones who never won any Coleman awards)
- ruckmen (unless they have a standout year)
- players who constantly get on the bad side of the umps.

 

[Wallaby]

Having a quich browse through those who only scored 1 Brownlow vote

- ignoring 1 season wonders like Austin Robertson (2nd in Coleman in 1966 - 60 goals - 1 vote)
- Ignoring players who played most of their career before the Brownlow (Vic Thorp - multiple state rep - Rochmond TOTS full-back - 1 vote)


I thought Dale Morris was interesting - 227 games for 1 vote.

 

[PowerForGood]

Dale Morris, Nick Smith, David Mackay.
240, 190 and 185 games respectively.
8700 possessions in total.



1 vote each.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Geoff Raines 1980.

Also, every defender ever.

 

[Back One Out]

Ben Stratton has been a really good underrated defender since his debut in 2010. Can play tall or small.
He's finished 6th in the Hawk best and fairest on 2 occasions in some decent company.
146 games, 0 Brownlow votes

Brent Guerra was an underrated gun small defender in the second half of his career.
Tough as nails and superbly skilled.
225 games, 6 Brownlow votes

 

[Percel]

callum urch

 

[demondavey]

Enright - 26 votes across 17 seasons. 1.5 votes per year average. Also a B&F winner twice, both in premiership years, 6X AA. Interesting.

Josh Gibson - 27 votes across 12 seasons. 2 votes per year average. Also a B&F winner twice, both in premiership years, 1X AA.

Then you have Adam Cooney and Shane Woewodin winning brownlows. Go figure.

 

[John Who]

Enright - 26 votes across 17 seasons. 1.5 votes per year average. Also a B&F winner twice, both in premiership years, 6X AA. Interesting.

Josh Gibson - 27 votes across 12 seasons. 2 votes per year average. Also a B&F winner twice, both in premiership years, 1X AA.

Then you have Adam Cooney and Shane Woewodin winning brownlows. Go figure.

Enright and Gibson's lack of votes just highlights how midfield-biased the umps are in making their decisions. With Enright more so with his 6 x AA, and only having 1.5 Brownlow votes per year is just laughable.
With your reference to Woewodin, he won 24 Brownlow votes in 2000, nearly as much as Enright in his ENTIRE career! That is just plain wrong!

 

[Occidental]

Nick Maxwell. Admittedly not the greatest of talents, but was a club captain, premiership captain & All Australian. 208 games, 3 votes. Got the votes in one game. So 207 games for zilch votes.

 

[demondavey]

Enright and Gibson's lack of votes just highlights how midfield-biased the umps are in making their decisions. With Enright more so with his 6 x AA, and only having 1.5 Brownlow votes per year is just laughable.
With your reference to Woewodin, he won 24 Brownlow votes in 2000, nearly as much as Enright in his ENTIRE career! That is just plain wrong!

Woewodin didn’t even make the AA team in 00 and was traded at the end of 01. He literally had one decent season, and that’s all it was, decent. The Brownlow will always go to a midfielder. It’s a joke of an award.

 

[demondavey]

Nick Maxwell. Admittedly not the greatest of talents, but was a club captain, premiership captain & All Australian. 208 games, 3 votes. Got the votes in one game. So 207 games for zilch votes.

That’s pretty bad

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Woewodin didn’t even make the AA team in 00 and was traded at the end of 01. He literally had one decent season, and that’s all it was, decent. The Brownlow will always go to a midfielder. It’s a joke of an award.

That’s not true. He was good for Collingwood in his first year for us (2003, he was traded in the 2002 off season) and from memory managed 12 votes that year which isn’t to be sneezed at.

 

[35Daicos]

https://afltables.com/afl/brownlow/brownlow_idx.html

Tom Lonergan finished up with 209 games played (191 Brownlow eligible games) for 0 votes. Nick Smith should be on 0 votes as well.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

https://afltables.com/afl/brownlow/brownlow_idx.html

Tom Lonergan finished up with 209 games played (191 Brownlow eligible games) for 0 votes. Nick Smith should be on 0 votes as well.

Three premiership Pies in the top ten to have never polled a vote as well.

 

[demondavey]

https://afltables.com/afl/brownlow/brownlow_idx.html

Tom Lonergan finished up with 209 games played (191 Brownlow eligible games) for 0 votes. Nick Smith should be on 0 votes as well.

Seriously, how could Aaron Flora never get a vote? The guy was a gun.















Seen laughing uncontrollably

 

[demondavey]

That’s not true. He was good for Collingwood in his first year for us (2003, he was traded in the 2002 off season) and from memory managed 12 votes that year which isn’t to be sneezed at.

Meh, didn’t rate Woey

 

[Boxhead_31]

Tom Lonergan not one single vote for his career

 

[wagstaff]

Who has kicked the most goals in a season (and for a career) without a Brownlow vote?

Mark Jackson kicked 76 goals in 1982 without a Brownlow vote. Doubt there’d be many higher than him.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Nick Smith should be on 0 votes as well.

Still the only (modern format) AA never to poll. Other current players yet to poll include Ben Stratton, Adam Tomlinson & Charlie Cameron.

Saints skipper Jarryn Geary has 2 votes from 162 eligible games, Will Schofield 1 from 155 and dual AA Daniel Talia 3 from 138.

Merv Keane, a beloved triple premiership player and TOTC member at Richmond, recorded 4/218 and first polled somewhere between game #152-174. I can hear Lou's voice now... "Never seems to play a bad game, this fella..."

Jeff Hogg was at one stage Richmond's best forward and defender and only polled 7 career votes from 184 qualifying games.

Dual b&f Sam Fisher polled 6 from 215, dual b&f Joel Patfull 6/216.

Brownlow winner Harry Collier only polled 18/218, which included 10 seasons under the 3-2-1 system.

Four-time AA Ben Hart recorded 12/293.

Ian Brewer won a (retrospective) Coleman and polled 1/75.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Who has kicked the most goals in a season (and for a career) without a Brownlow vote?

Mark Jackson kicked 76 goals in 1982 without a Brownlow vote. Doubt there’d be many higher than him.

Gordon Coventry kicked 105 goals from 18 h&a games in the last one-vote-per-match season (1930). Also 104/16 in 1929.

Doug Wade is the record-holder under the 3-2-1 system with 82 goals from 18 eligible games in 1974. Jacko is next.

Dick Lee won the goalkicking award 7 times/kicked 707 goals, but his career concluded prior to the advent of the Brownlow. Jimmy Freake kicked 442 goals but only played 5 eligible games. Ted Johnson (SM) kicked 385 goals from 118 eligible games, mostly under the single vote system.

Most goals without a career vote while playing exclusively under the 3-2-1 system is Essendon's Ray Watts with 149 goals from 54 eligible games.

 

[John Who]

How are people getting your facts? It's pretty amazing to read some of the statistics many decades ago!

 

[Damon_3388]

Dale Morris, Nick Smith, David Mackay.
240, 190 and 185 games respectively.
8700 possessions in total.



1 vote each.

About right for David Mackay really.

 

[TheGreatBambino]

That’s not true. He was good for Collingwood in his first year for us (2003, he was traded in the 2002 off season) and from memory managed 12 votes that year which isn’t to be sneezed at.

Is he the only Brownlow medalist in history to be delisted ?

 

[Snake_Baker]

- defenders: David Dench. 26 votes in 1977, 28 votes in his other 15 years of footy.
- forwards: Peter McKenna 1971. Kicks 134.79 goals and gets 6 votes.
- ruckmen: Generally well recognised by umpires.
- players who constantly get on the bad side of the umps: Players who do this are never going to influence a "fairest" and best award.

 

[Occidental]

Alan Toovey - 159 games 0 votes
Shane Wakelin 252 games - 4 votes
Nathan Brown (Coll & now StK) currently 152 games - 0 votes yet.