Best thing that could have happened to Essendon.

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It is. Really.

This entire messageboard, on the basis of one match result, has basically written off the club for the entire season.

That's fine with me.
 

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Being realistic, it was an aberration. You played awful footy, and can't make excuses, but write it off as a loss and forget about it. Essnedon, say what you like about them but they are a great team and they will bounce back and play in the finals and remain flag favourites BUT the loss shows they are far from invincible.
The somewhat perplexing result makes the season proper less of the formality that most supporters had been resigned to early on. With the eagerly anticipated (by their own supporters) improvement of Collingwood and St.Kilda, a hopefully injury-free Kangaroos, a slightly less unlucky Swans, and 12 other competitive teams, Port's win was definitely a great result for the competition as a whole, as it gives supporters the feeling that it is a competition again , unlike last year's whitewash.
 

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It's a long, long season. When Essendon last won a flag in 19993, they won the 1994 pre-seaosn cup. This lulled the team into a false sense of security and they finished 11th in 1994. After winning so many games and seeming unbeatable, this is the wake up call, Essendon needed. They won't be lulled into a false sesne of security thios time like they were in 1994. No way in hell.
 

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Originally posted by Dan24:
It's a long, long season. When Essendon last won a flag in 19993, they won the 1994 pre-seaosn cup. This lulled the team into a false sense of security and they finished 11th in 1994. After winning so many games and seeming unbeatable, this is the wake up call, Essendon needed. They won't be lulled into a false sesne of security thios time like they were in 1994. No way in hell.
Given the number of times you repeat yourself ad nauseam in multiple posts, I'd estimate the number of *original* posts out of your 2477 tally (or whatever it is by now) as about 23.
 

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Grave Danger!

I have to agree with you on your thoughts of Dan24's posts.

Dan24 is posting like Essendon played last night.

Very pathetic!

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Now , Now folks...as Ive said before, its good to see Essendon put in against traditional Powerhouse Football clubs like Port Adelaide..
Port has suffered an abboration since 1996 only making the finals once in this time....Port had up until that time only ever missed the finals 12 times since 1877.

What a lot of you guys dont seem to be able to get through your heads is ... Port Adelaide will not allow that to continue to happen..It has the Money, the support , the resources, the tradition, the history, The will ,the administration, the facilities that will prevail.

A practice match between us an Essendon means nothing, just prior to joining the AFL, when Port were still known as the Magpies, we played Essendon in a mid season trial game ( byes for both clubs ) and beat them by almost twenty goals...

So what.

Essendon will re group, they are a strong melbourne based club and have good resources. It was a practice match for them, off course Sheedy went nuts at the players, he doesnt want to lose to anyone by 13 goals after winning a premiership,
but Im sure Essendon wil still finish somewhere in the top 8.

It is the fools that continually write off Port Adelaide that are in for a hell of a shock


PA1870
 

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Do you honestly think Port Adelaide will make the finals? I mean, really? Why do you think this. Don't say crap like: "because we are Port and we play with heart". I want to know how you are going to have success with a thin playing list.

Everyone else on these boards talk about football and how their teams can improve. You don't talk about your team itself. You just talk about their history.

What about the fact that Port are severley lacking in talent compared to the other top side. Does this mean anything to you? What about the fact that you can't score enough goals consistently? Does this mean anything to you?

I doubt very much whether you will make the finals, simply because you aren't good enough. This is your 5th season in the AFL, and you have never had a percentage of over 100, and you have never won a finals match - not even come close.

What you did in the SANFL with different payers is largely irrelevant. Competting against the big boys is an entirely different proposition. And I have been proven right by that, because since entering the comp, you have done basically nothing. 5 years and nothing. So don't say I'm wrong because I am 100% right.

Forget the fact you have money. The salary cap prevents this from being an adantage. North Melbourne have no money and they have been the best performed club in the last 8 years. You need quality players, and while you have a competititve team, the finals are a long, long way off. Even when you did make the finals in 1999, you had a percentage of 90, and Hawthorn (who finished 9th) were clearly a more accomplished side that year.

You'll need luck in close matchs, a lack of injuries, and consistency to make the 8. With hardly any change in your playing personnel from last year, it looks to be yet another long, long season for the unsuccessful Port Power. It's been different in the AFL hasn't it!!! Oh well, you had to learn some way, you might as well learn the hard way!

Adios. Bring on Round 2.
 
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Originally posted by Scott:
Grave Danger!

I have to agree with you on your thoughts of Dan24's posts.

Dan24 is posting like Essendon played last night.

Very pathetic!

you fool go and win an afl final come online and talk to people
 

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Dan24, frankly I believe your turds have more brain cells in them than your cranium.

Port has 4 virtual recruits this year to add to our forward lines, Wanganeen, Lade, Cockatoo-Collins and Lockwood, as for our talent go and research the list boy, maybe then you could be taken seriously.

As for you saying it so it must be right, HA, your have your head so far up your arse you can see daylight through your stomach lining.

Go find your equals in the sand pit boy, you have no credibility here

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Originally posted by Port Adelaide 1870:
It has the Money, the support , the resources, the tradition, the history, The will ,the administration, the facilities that will prevail.

PA1870
A playing list is not required then ??



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Originally posted by Asgardian:
Port has 4 virtual recruits this year to add to our forward lines, Wanganeen, Lade, Cockatoo-Collins and Lockwood, as for our talent go and research the list boy, maybe then you could be taken seriously.

Ha ha. ANY club can say this. Any club with an injury last year (i.e ALL CLUBS) can say : "Oh, we've got so-and-so back, from injury, so he's virtually a recruit"

Your playing list is no different, bar Wakelin, and the customary 18 year old draft picks. Cockatoo-Collins? Don't make me laugh. He's just an Essendon reject. The problem with CC is that he doens't get the ball. He only gets 2 or 3 kicks a game.

What makes you think you won't suffer the inevitable injuries in 2001 to players? That's ok though. When those players come back in 2002, you can say : "Look, we've got some virtual recruits".

You will suffer injuries again. Mark my words.
 

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Let's get a few things straight here. Sure, this is the same Port side that did badly last year. But it's also the same Port side that made the finals the year before. You can't dismiss one fact without taking the other fact into account. And I know how keen on facts you are, Dan.

I don't think Port lack talent. And it's a ludicrous statement to make by someone whose team has just been dumped on by them. That Port team on Saturday night in no way resembled the mob that bumbled throught last year. Only the names are the same. And just like Essendon, they could have brought four or five players into the team. IMHO, they can make the eight.

Port fans have every right to point to their proud history. You underestimate pride as a factor in creating a winning attitude. And even as a Hawtorn fan I wouldn't go around saying Hawthorn were CLEARLY better than Port in 1999. We weren't good enough to make the finals that year, simple as that. Port lacked finals experience, and they copped the eventual Premiers in their only match. You make a really harsh assessment of them there.

Which is not to say that Essendon aren't a better side than Port. They no doubt are. I agree with Walshy's assessment of the game. But for god's sake, Dan, Port won and they have bragging rights - try to be a little more gracious.

Dan, I look forward to seeing all your previous arguments rephrased,

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Darky has probably put this best but it looks like we will have a season on our hands. While the loss will be a reality check nobody wants a reality check that it is that large (and with better kicking would have been in 3 figures).
 

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Yes Dan


tell us again why Hawthorn was the better side in 1999 ???


for the record they met once in 1999...round 13

Port 8.17 65 (more great kicking from Port)
Hawthorn 6.9 45

fairly comprehensive.

Final positions...

Port 7th (on percentage 5,6,& 7 all had 12 wins) 12 wins 10 losses 48 percentage 90.12

Hawthorn 9th 10 wins 1 draw 11 losses 42 points percentage 95.63.

on what were Hawthorn the better side ?? percentage ?

is this a new theory of yours for determining the premiership Dan...ignore the amount of games won as that really can go either way (upsets happen, bounce of the ball etc) and really we should just consider the percentage.

I propose that we actually consider scoring shots as a way of determining the best side (we might have 4 flags by now !!!!!!)

utter nonsense.

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All the Essendon performance has shown is that they will be brought back to the pack this year.

So what if some regular players were not available. What happened to the famous depth in the list?

Also to maintain the intensity & focus of last season will be impossible. I am sure the humiliation of 1999 would be a receding memory now.

I am still picking to finish the H & A on top of the ladder, just not the blitzing of last year.


P.S. Port fans must be browned off by not having their moment of glory here amongst the Essendon guff - play that well in the regular H & A & you will!
 

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Just getting back to Stealths assertation that this was the best thing that could have happened to them.

Stealth mate, totally 100% wrong. The Dons of last year built and BUILT this crescendo of invincibilty around themselves. The whole of the competition was given over to the fact that they COULDNT be beaten. The Dons also i believe, thought the exact same thing themselves. That they were unbeatable.

Now in one game, that aura has been stripped away. Its not the loss so much, but the nature of the loss. You should have been done over by at least a hundred points. Taking nothing away from the Power, but there a middle of the road side, and if they can do that to the Dons, then other sides are going to have confidence that 'hey if they can do that if they play committed football, then why cant we'.

This year you were always going to be the hunted, to have been hunted and caught so early isnt a good sign imho.

Cheers

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Originally posted by Grendel:
Stealth mate, totally 100% wrong. The Dons of last year built and BUILT this crescendo of invincibilty around themselves. The whole of the competition was given over to the fact that they COULDNT be beaten. The Dons also i believe, thought the exact same thing themselves. That they were unbeatable.
Mmmm, and Rd 21 didn't disprove any of that?
 

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Dvae, not in the way they lost that game, no it didnt. Two late goals after leading all day, up for most of the match. It was like a slap to the face if anything, woke them up (just look at the results after that game).

This, this is different. This wasnt a slap to the face, this was a kick in the guts. Dont get me wrong, im not writing them off by any means, still a great side, and improvement to come back. But the depths overated, you dont need injurys to your stars any more than any other side in the league does. What im saying is that this game gave everyone a chance to look at the Dons made easybeats. If at any stage when they may be looking down during a tough match during the season, dont tell me that some coach isnt going to be bringing this game up for a reminder that they are beatable if you apply yourselves.

The invicibility thing was a hard fought one to achieve, and its been blown in a night.

No wonder Sheedy was so filthy on the side, he knows just how costly this could be.

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I know the ansett cup doesn't count for anything - especially when Hawthorn win it but C'mon guys - we can win it now

Freo - read geelong - we can beat them anywhere

Melbourne - OK so the 1998/2000 melbourne beat us but the 1997/1999 does not come close. Plus we are 'colonial' specialists - It suits our tall marking guys.

Then Probably Brisbane or Carlton (if we get that far) Brisbane would be in brisbane but we did OK last year. Carlton is one of our 'goals' this year so an early crack at them would help

If we were so lucky to make the GF of such an insignificant comp it would be Collingwood, Kangaroos, Sydney or Port at the MCG

But I am getting ahead of ourselves here...
 
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