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Analysis Best & Worst Top 10 Draft Picks Per Draft Number

Discussion in 'Drafts, Trading & Free Agency' started by LongerHasHickey, Nov 18, 2018.

  1. LongerHasHickey

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    Thought I'd start a thread to pick the all time best and worst top 10 draft picks. This is based on the best player selected at a given pick across every single draft (i.e. best #1 pick, worst #2 pick etc). Interested to see everyone's take. My best and worst is based from the point I started watching footy (circa 1993)

    Best Top 10:
    #1 - Nick Riewoldt (2000)
    #2 - Jarryd Roughead (2004)
    #3 - Chris Judd (2001)
    #4 - Matthew Pavlich (1999)
    #5 - Lance Franklin (2004)
    #6 - Chad Wingard (2011)
    #7 - Joel Selwood (2006)
    #8 - Jimmy Bartel (2001)
    #9 - Chad Cornes (1997)
    #10 - Patrick Dangerfield (2007)

    Worst Top 10:
    #1 - McCartin (2014)
    #2 - Gumbleton (2006)
    #3 - Fewster (1995)
    #4 - Walsh (2002)
    #5 - McDougall (2000)
    #6 - Thorp (2006)
    #7 - Angwin (2000)
    #8 - Oakley-Nicholls (2005)
    #9 - Molan (2001)
    #10 - Dunn (2003)

    My take is that pick 5 stands out as historically having the best strike rate in the top 10. So many superstars. Easily could come up with a best 22 of only pick 5's. Pick 6 has typically had a lower strike rate but the few standouts at this pick such as Winged, Macrae and Stephenson if he continues his promising start.

    My worst 10 is based on output relative to others. The talent may not have been lacking but due to various factors such as recurring injuries, behavioural issues and unfulfilled potential, they have been included on this list. Pick 1 has not had any real spuds during my time watching footy. Their standing is based on relativity to others who have surpassed the number 1 pick. Paddy still has time on his side but I am basing it on output up until this point in time. He has talent but has been impacted by repeated concussion issues, various injuries and inconsistency in form.
     
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  2. Sab22

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  3. LongerHasHickey

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    Massive oversight on my part. Correct now. Cheers for pointing it out.
     
  4. Doctor Gero

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    Selwood... I’m sorry but he’s definitely got Wines covered at #7
     
  5. LongerHasHickey

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    Another oversight on my part. Taking the time to double check my top 10 again. Think it should be all good to go now. Cheers.
     
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    I don’t remember Fewster, but it seems a fairly high proportion of the top 10 on the worst list are KPP’s.

    Poor selection or clubs desperately reaching for a saviour ? Or does the U18 form not translate well for KPP’s ?
     
  7. TradeDraft

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    Because KPP are lot more Raw then Mids.

    Mids can make a Immediate Impact while Talls can take few years start to come good
     
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    4 out of best 5 picks are key forwards.

    Seems like key position players are boom or bust.
     
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  10. petrolium

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    Best Top 10:
    #1 - Luke Hodge (2001)
    #2 - Josh Kelly (2013 - will be by the end of his career)
    #3 - Chris Judd (2001)
    #4 - Josh Kennedy (2005)
    #5 - Lance Franklin (2004)
    #6 - Jack Macrae (2012 - will be by end of career)
    #7 - Joel Selwood (2006)
    #8 - Jimmy Bartel (2001)
    #9 - Chad Cornes (1997)
    #10 - Patrick Dangerfield (2007)

    Worst Top 10:
    #1 - Jack Watts (2008)
    #2 - Jonathon O'Rourke (2012)
    #3 - Brendan Fewster (1995)
    #4 - Tim Walsh (2002)
    #5 - Jarrad Grant (2007)
    #6 - Mitch Thorp (2006)
    #7 - Laurence Angwin (2000)
    #8 - Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls (2005)
    #9 - Luke Molan (2001)
    #10 - Ryley Dunn (2003)
     
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    With Early Picks it does look like that
     

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    In what world is Hodge better than Riewoldt lol
     
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    As underwhelming as Watts has been, he's nowhere near the worst #1 pick. Martin Leslie, Richard Lounder, Alex McDonald , Anthony Banik, Stephen Hooper, John Hutton, Clive Waterhouse, Jon Patton, Tom Boyd & Paddy McCartin were all worse #1 picks than Watts.
     
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    The world where he sacrificed his own elite midfield game to lead Hawthorn to 3 premierships (winning 4 in total) and 2 norm smith medals by playing any role necessary to get the job done (as a key defender essentially in 2008 where he directly stopped 16 of Geelong's 64 inside 50 entries) or by kicking key critical goals in the 2014 and 2015 grand finals.

    Nick couldn't even kick a goal from 1m out in a GF when he had his shot.
     
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    Worst Top 10 :

    Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls
    Cale Morton
    Laurence Angwin
    Jonathan O'Rourke
    Kayne Pettifer
    Andrew Moore
    Tim Walsh
    Brendan Fewster
    Riley Dunn
    Luke Molan
     
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    Harsh he did play over 100 games.which is a pass
     
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    Fair enough, John Butcher should have been on the list ahead of him anyway.
     
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    #10 in 2004 was Chris Egan from the Pies.
    In the presser before his first game he was trying to talk the talk and get stuck into his Murray Bushranger team mate...Brett Deledio....
    On that floggish behaviour i nominate Egan.
     
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    Hodge:

    4 time premiership player.
    3 time premiership captain.
    2 times best-on-grand in a grand final.

    We play to win the game.
     
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    People need to stop using team achievements to talk up a player.
     
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    No they don't. Especially when a player like Hodge sacrificed his own game and midfield minutes because he saw the big picture with regards to team success.
     
  22. Nobu

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    Who cares? If Hodge got drafted to Carlton, he wouldn't have won four flags. Players shouldn't be judged more harshly because they weren't fortunate enough to play in premiership sides. It's a bullshit argument. He'd still be equally as talented if he did it all in a side that didn't win premierships.
     
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    By this logic, Hodge is better than Wayne Carey since Carey never won a premiership (Kinda forgot about those 2 - still less than Hodge), meaning Hodge's achievement list is better.

    We're talking about individual players here. Hodge's Norm Smith medals can count in his favour, but being one of the 22 involved in a premiership doesn't make you a better player than someone who wasn't. Nathan Broad is also a premiership player, so I guess he must be more successful than Carey too
     
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    Reckon you might need to check your facts re:Carey and premierships
     
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    Wondered if it was just me for a minute.....
     
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