Best XI of the 1980's (interactive voting thread)

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I am sure that the ball didn't hit McDermott's bat. Just like 12 years later at Edgbaston when we lost by 1 run I am sure that the ball didn't hit Michael Kasprowicz's bat either when given out caught behind off Flintoff.
Imagine DRS deciding either of those Tests?
 

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I can understand that. It was painful to watch. A bit like Stokes at Headingley. Thankfully I wasn't old enough to watch Botham in 1981.
I was old enough to watch Botham in 1981. I stayed up late to watch it. God I wish I had not...
The next one was first Test i went to at MCG. I think I went on Boxing Day of that Test. We needed 73 for last wicket, Border and Thomson got to stumps and still needed 38 runs. We got about 1 or 2 runs from end. Tailender Thomson gets an edge to slips, one Pom drops it, the other catches it off him. fu** that was cruel to watch.
Then there was the loss to South Africa at the SCG where Fanie Devillers cleaned up in early 90's. Never forgive Martyn for it in my mind.
Then there was the loss to West Indies in Langer's debut Test.
All of them, very very painful
The fourth one the most painful as Border had been through all four, hence why he went beserk in dressing room the moment the finger went up from the ump.
We lost a few other close Test but these ones you never get over, never!!!!

Hence more recent ones I've learned from the past not to keep watching replays after it over. The Kasper and Brett Lee one probably only watched on the night and remember we were unlikely so never got my hopes up and when we lost did not go over and over it in my mind.
I forgot about the more recent one with Stokes so I must have done the same with that. Saw it on the night and never bother to look at it afterwards.
 

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I was too young to stay up and watch Headingley in 1981 but so confident I was of a win I cried the next morning when I found out we lost. Took Stokes slightly better.
 

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I was old enough to watch Botham in 1981. I stayed up late to watch it. God I wish I had not...
The next one was first Test i went to at MCG. I think I went on Boxing Day of that Test. We needed 73 for last wicket, Border and Thomson got to stumps and still needed 38 runs. We got about 1 or 2 runs from end. Tailender Thomson gets an edge to slips, one Pom drops it, the other catches it off him. fu** that was cruel to watch.
Then there was the lost to South Africa at the SCG where Fanie Devillers cleaned up in early 90's. Never forgive Martyn for it in my mind.
Then there was the loss to West Indies in Langer's debut Test.
All of them, very very painful
The third one the most painful as Border had been through all three, hence why he went beserk in dressing room the moment the finger went up from the ump.
We lost a few other close Test but these ones you never get over, never!!!!

Hence more recent ones I've learned from the past not to keep watching replays after it over. The Kaser and Brett Lee I probably only watched on the night and remember we were unlikely so never got my hopes up and when we lost did not go over and over it in my mind.
I forgot about the more recent one with Stokes so I must have done the same with that. Saw it on the night and never bother to look at it afterwards.
I think Geoff Miller took the catch on the rebound from Chris Tavare for Thommo's dismissal. Again bloody Botham was the bowler.
Remember the SCG test, where the whole team crumbled not just Martyn crumbled in a very low run chase. I think you and I have argued about that before.
Also remember the test here in Adelaide the year before, again chasing a small total. Langer almost got us home in that game as well.
Another later one that is overlooked is the 98/99 Ashes test in Melbourne, when we lost by 12 runs needing 175 to win. Dean Headley took 6/60 in the second innings.
 

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I was too young to stay up and watch Headingley in 1981 but so confident I was of a win I cried the next morning when I found out we lost. Took Stokes slightly better.
Bit like me when the Crows lost the 93 prelim to the Bombers after being 7 goals up at half time.
 

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Odi's by decade - no repeats;

80's
Marsh
Boon
Jones
Chappell
Border c
Phillips
O'Donnell
Marsh +
Taylor
Lawson
Lillee

90's
Taylor c
M Waugh
Law
Bevan
S Waugh
Lehmann
Healy +
Warne
McDermott
Fleming
McGrath

00's
Hayden
Gilchrist +
Ponting c
Martyn
Clarke
Hussey
Symonds
Hogg
Lee
Gillespie
Bracken

10's
Finch c
Warner
Bailey
Smith
Maxwell
Watson
Haddin
Johnson
Starc
Zampa
Hazelwood
 

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Odi's by decade - no repeats;

80's
Marsh
Boon
Jones
Chappell
Border c
Phillips
O'Donnell
Marsh +
Taylor
Lawson
Lillee

90's
Taylor c
M Waugh
Law
Bevan
S Waugh
Lehmann
Healy +
Warne
McDermott
Fleming
McGrath

00's
Hayden
Gilchrist +
Ponting c
Martyn
Clarke
Hussey
Symonds
Hogg
Lee
Gillespie
Bracken

10's
Finch c
Warner
Bailey
Smith
Maxwell
Watson
Haddin
Johnson
Starc
Zampa
Hazelwood
Reiffell over Fleming in the 90's and Bichel over Bracken in 00's for mine. Only arguments from me.
 

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Fleming's record was so much better + was great bowling final overs. Reiffel does strengthen batting.
Bracken all day - look at stats
Always felt that Fleming's final overs bowling was overstated. Take the 99 world cup, Fleming was lauded for the final over when Klusener had already smashed 2 boundaries off the first 2 deliveries. It was only suicidal running, not great bowling that won us that game.
 

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Always felt that Fleming's final overs bowling was overstated. Take the 99 world cup, Fleming was lauded for the final over when Klusener had already smashed 2 boundaries off the first 2 deliveries. It was only suicidal running, not great bowling that won us that game.
Always going to get hit particularly to klusener in 1999 - kept his nerve to effect run out. Fleming pretty much performed that role throughout his career & has great record to show
 

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Reiffell over Fleming in the 90's and Bichel over Bracken in 00's for mine. Only arguments from me.
No way, Flemo was key wicket taker too many times to leave out.
Very crucial in 1996 World Cup to get as far as we did.
Pity about the dew in the final.
 

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Odi's by decade - no repeats;

80's
Marsh
Boon
Jones
Chappell
Border c
Phillips
O'Donnell
Marsh +
Taylor
Lawson
Lillee
Not sure about those openers for the ODI team.
Think we can find better than that.
Steve Smith did not play a lot of ODI's but I think I liked him as an opener more for ODI team.
Be interesting to look at stats of our openers then as harder to remember than Test team.
But the lower order spot on imo.
Wayne Phillips and Simon O'Donnell were great to watch in that era, where they accelerated in last 15 overs better than most in that era.
 

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Was looking to see whom were our openers in first one day international of the 1980's...
Below it shows Weiner and McCosker.
They actually did ok, but team had a really poor batting innings and legend Lillee almost won it for Australia with 4 for 12 off his 10 overs.


Match Date:14th January, 1980Series Batting & Bowling Analysis
Venue:Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney
Match Conditions:50 Overs, Day/Night MatchPartnerships
Toss:England
Result:England won by 2 wickets
Player of Match:Dennis Lillee
Video Clips:View video clips for this Match

Australia
R​
BF​
4s​
6s​
SR​
% of Total​
Julien Wienerst †Bairstow b Emburey
33​
80​
3​
0​
41.25​
20.25%
Richard McCoskerc Brearley b Willey
41​
67​
2​
0​
61.19​
25.15%
Ian Chappellc Randall b Emburey
8​
15​
0​
0​
53.33​
4.91%
Greg Chappell*c Randall b Stevenson
34​
55​
2​
0​
61.82​
20.86%
Kim Hughesc Larkins b Lever
34​
42​
1​
0​
80.95​
20.86%
Allan Borderc †Bairstow b Lever
0​
3​
0​
0​
0.00​
Rod Marshc †Bairstow b Stevenson
0​
2​
0​
0​
0.00​
Dennis Lilleelbw b Stevenson
0​
1​
0​
0​
0.00​
Geoffrey Dymockrun out
0​
9​
0​
0​
0.00​
Jeff Thomsonnot out
3​
12​
0​
0​
25.00​
1.84%
Leonard Pascoeb Stevenson
5​
11​
1​
0​
45.45​
3.07%
Extras(lb 1, w 3, nb 1)
5​
TotalAll Out (48.4 overs @ 3.35 rpo)
163​
Fall of Wickets
1-74 McCosker 2-82 Wiener 3-89 Chappell 4-148 Hughes
5-149 Border 6-150 Marsh 7-150 Lillee 8-152 Dymock
9-155 Chappell 10-163 Pascoe
Bowling
O​
M​
R​
W​
ER​
% of Wickets​
John Lever
9.0​
1​
11​
2​
1.22​
20.00%
Ian Botham
7.0​
0​
33​
0​
4.71​
Graham Gooch
3.0​
0​
13​
0​
4.33​
Graham Stevenson
9.4​
0​
33​
4​
3.41​
40.00%
John Emburey
10.0​
1​
33​
2​
3.30​
20.00%
Peter Willey
10.0​
0​
35​
1​
3.50​
10.00%
England (target 164)
R​
BF​
4s​
6s​
SR​
% of Total​
Graham Goochc McCosker b Pascoe
69​
123​
5​
0​
56.10​
42.07%
Wayne Larkinsc Thomson b Lillee
5​
31​
0​
0​
16.13​
3.05%
Peter Willeylbw b Lillee
0​
2​
0​
0​
0.00​
David Gowerc †Marsh b Lillee
3​
7​
0​
0​
42.86​
1.83%
Mike Brearley*b Chappell
5​
19​
0​
0​
26.32​
3.05%
Derek Randallc Pascoe b Chappell
0​
11​
0​
0​
0.00​
Ian Bothamb Lillee
0​
3​
0​
0​
0.00​
David Bairstownot out
21​
68​
0​
0​
30.88​
12.80%
John Embureyc Chappell b Dymock
18​
22​
2​
0​
81.82​
10.98%
Graham Stevensonnot out
28​
18​
3​
0​
155.56​
17.07%
John Lever
Extras(lb 5, w 1, nb 9)
15​
Total8 wickets (48.5 overs @ 3.36 rpo)
164​
Fall of Wickets
1-31 Larkins 2-31 Willey 3-40 Gower 4-51 Brearley
5-56 Randall 6-61 Botham 7-105 Gooch 8-129 Emburey
Bowling
O​
M​
R​
W​
ER​
% of Wickets​
Jeff Thomson
9.5​
0​
46​
0​
4.68​
Geoffrey Dymock
9.0​
1​
30​
1​
3.33​
10.00%
Dennis Lillee
10.0​
6​
12​
4​
1.20​
40.00%
Leonard Pascoe
10.0​
0​
38​
1​
3.80​
10.00%
Greg Chappell
10.0​
3​
23​
2​
2.30​
20.00%
 

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Not sure about those openers for the ODI team.
Think we can find better than that.
Steve Smith did not play a lot of ODI's but I think I liked him as an opener more for ODI team.
Be interesting to look at stats of our openers then as harder to remember than Test team.
But the lower order spot on imo.
Wayne Phillips and Simon O'Donnell were great to watch in that era, where they accelerated in last 15 overs better than most in that era.
Are you serious?! Boon & Marsh are automatics. Both have great records (a bit slow although that was era). Pair lead Aussies to 1987 World Cup.

Phillips slot could've gone to 5 or 6 players. Without overlaps Steve Waugh is clearly choice.
 

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Not really relevant to anything aside from the fact that a handful of players in this thread featured in the game:

I watched a highlights package last night of Viv hitting a double century at Melbourne in 84.

his partner to get from about 180 last the 200 mark was a very young, and spindly looking Courtney Walsh.

he launched a couple of sixes and prompted bill lawry to shout ‘boy oh boy can’t he hit a ball this young lad?’

bill probably didn’t realise he was literally calling the high point of Walsh’s batting career until 99 when he blocked a couple of balls while lara pulled off the Bridgetown chase
 

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Are you serious?! Boon & Marsh are automatics. Both have great records (a bit slow although that was era). Pair lead Aussies to 1987 World Cup.

Phillips slot could've gone to 5 or 6 players. Without overlaps Steve Waugh is clearly choice.
I only serious in sense, Steve Smith was way more enjoyable to watch opening than those two in 1980's.
I think Boon and Marsh had a great twelve or so months together at one point, which is part of reason we surprisingly won the World Cup in India which should be enough to get it but I thinking about the whole decade they were not the most entertaining pair.
I really liked Border opening against Windies at SCG once.
The early part of decade had many guys taking turns at opening. Weiner, McCosker, Laird, Dyson, Wood, Rick Darling, Border and Trevor Chappell.
Smith was towards the middle of the decade. The end of the decade was Marsh and Taylor. I really did not like our top order when Marsh, Taylor and Boon got us off to a lot of slow starts. Took until next decade for strategy to change and push the scoring on a lot more in top order. Guys like Dean Jones showed first drop should be an attacking weapon, Not stodgy Boon after Taylor and Marsh.
 
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Was looking to see whom were our openers in first one day international of the 1980's...
Below it shows Weiner and McCosker.
They actually did ok, but team had a really poor batting innings and legend Lillee almost won it for Australia with 4 for 12 off his 10 overs.


Match Date:14th January, 1980Series Batting & Bowling Analysis
Venue:Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney
Match Conditions:50 Overs, Day/Night MatchPartnerships
Toss:England
Result:England won by 2 wickets
Player of Match:Dennis Lillee
Video Clips:View video clips for this Match

Australia
R​
BF​
4s​
6s​
SR​
% of Total​
Julien Wienerst †Bairstow b Emburey
33​
80​
3​
0​
41.25​
20.25%
Richard McCoskerc Brearley b Willey
41​
67​
2​
0​
61.19​
25.15%
Ian Chappellc Randall b Emburey
8​
15​
0​
0​
53.33​
4.91%
Greg Chappell*c Randall b Stevenson
34​
55​
2​
0​
61.82​
20.86%
Kim Hughesc Larkins b Lever
34​
42​
1​
0​
80.95​
20.86%
Allan Borderc †Bairstow b Lever
0​
3​
0​
0​
0.00​
Rod Marshc †Bairstow b Stevenson
0​
2​
0​
0​
0.00​
Dennis Lilleelbw b Stevenson
0​
1​
0​
0​
0.00​
Geoffrey Dymockrun out
0​
9​
0​
0​
0.00​
Jeff Thomsonnot out
3​
12​
0​
0​
25.00​
1.84%
Leonard Pascoeb Stevenson
5​
11​
1​
0​
45.45​
3.07%
Extras(lb 1, w 3, nb 1)
5​
TotalAll Out (48.4 overs @ 3.35 rpo)
163​
Fall of Wickets
1-74 McCosker 2-82 Wiener 3-89 Chappell 4-148 Hughes
5-149 Border 6-150 Marsh 7-150 Lillee 8-152 Dymock
9-155 Chappell 10-163 Pascoe
Bowling
O​
M​
R​
W​
ER​
% of Wickets​
John Lever
9.0​
1​
11​
2​
1.22​
20.00%
Ian Botham
7.0​
0​
33​
0​
4.71​
Graham Gooch
3.0​
0​
13​
0​
4.33​
Graham Stevenson
9.4​
0​
33​
4​
3.41​
40.00%
John Emburey
10.0​
1​
33​
2​
3.30​
20.00%
Peter Willey
10.0​
0​
35​
1​
3.50​
10.00%
England (target 164)
R​
BF​
4s​
6s​
SR​
% of Total​
Graham Goochc McCosker b Pascoe
69​
123​
5​
0​
56.10​
42.07%
Wayne Larkinsc Thomson b Lillee
5​
31​
0​
0​
16.13​
3.05%
Peter Willeylbw b Lillee
0​
2​
0​
0​
0.00​
David Gowerc †Marsh b Lillee
3​
7​
0​
0​
42.86​
1.83%
Mike Brearley*b Chappell
5​
19​
0​
0​
26.32​
3.05%
Derek Randallc Pascoe b Chappell
0​
11​
0​
0​
0.00​
Ian Bothamb Lillee
0​
3​
0​
0​
0.00​
David Bairstownot out
21​
68​
0​
0​
30.88​
12.80%
John Embureyc Chappell b Dymock
18​
22​
2​
0​
81.82​
10.98%
Graham Stevensonnot out
28​
18​
3​
0​
155.56​
17.07%
John Lever
Extras(lb 5, w 1, nb 9)
15​
Total8 wickets (48.5 overs @ 3.36 rpo)
164​
Fall of Wickets
1-31 Larkins 2-31 Willey 3-40 Gower 4-51 Brearley
5-56 Randall 6-61 Botham 7-105 Gooch 8-129 Emburey
Bowling
O​
M​
R​
W​
ER​
% of Wickets​
Jeff Thomson
9.5​
0​
46​
0​
4.68​
Geoffrey Dymock
9.0​
1​
30​
1​
3.33​
10.00%
Dennis Lillee
10.0​
6​
12​
4​
1.20​
40.00%
Leonard Pascoe
10.0​
0​
38​
1​
3.80​
10.00%
Greg Chappell
10.0​
3​
23​
2​
2.30​
20.00%
Graham Stevenson 28 off 18 balls! Take a bow.
 

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What you talking about. He got 4 for 33.....Take a bigger bow.
Funny thing, I do not remember the name at all.
How did he not play more games here?
Bloody oath.

He was a bit before my time, but a look at his County record suggests there were other bowlers out there probably better than him, which would explain his lack of Test cricket.

In one-dayers on the other hand, Stevenson looked like a great addition. Very handy with the bat & a career List-A bowling average of 23.
 

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What you talking about. He got 4 for 33.....Take a bigger bow.
Funny thing, I do not remember the name at all.
How did he not play more games here?
Just looked him up. Only played 2 tests and 4 ODI's in his whole career. Took nearly 500 wickets in County cricket for Yorkshire and Northamptonshire. Also scored 115 not out coming at number 11 in a county match for Yorkshire in a tenth wicket partnership of 149. You can guess who the other batsman was.
 

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