Dogs_R_Us
Space Traveller
When he arrived in 2012 he said it would be 5 years before we would be a contender... guess what happened.Why doesn’t Brendan McCartney get any credit for the results after the premiership?
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
When he arrived in 2012 he said it would be 5 years before we would be a contender... guess what happened.Why doesn’t Brendan McCartney get any credit for the results after the premiership?
cause he was a campaigner apparentlyWhy doesn’t Brendan McCartney get any credit for the results after the premiership?
He does get some credit by some for sure. I've seen quite a few posts on here that give him at least some kudos.Why doesn’t Brendan McCartney get any credit for the results after the premiership?
It's a good metric. There's been quite a few studies done on sports teams that look at team continuity and success. They are definitely linked.The club values a metric based on the no. of games played together by the 22 picked. Chris Grant spoke about it at a dinner. When I reflect on his words, it either makes the baffling match selections long game genius, or bat sh*t crazy.
I think we'll win the flag from here. But it's bat sh*t crazy.
It makes sense to use it as a sanity check on a proposed 22 but not as a hard and fast rule.The club values a metric based on the no. of games played together by the 22 picked. Chris Grant spoke about it at a dinner. When I reflect on his words, it either makes the baffling match selections long game genius, or bat sh*t crazy.
I think we'll win the flag from here. But it's bat sh*t crazy.
Referring to the Bevo era as a period of a 'sustained losing record' just doesn't match the facts.It's been 4 years since the premiership, so there has been an opportunity to increase the age and experience of the list but we've chosen another path. That might explain the poor win/loss ratio but it doesn't make it a good strategy. You can't argue with results...we lose more often than we win over the past 4 seasons.
How do you know that nobody at the club is questioning Beveridge's performance? You can't possibly know that to be true.
I'd suggest that if nobody at the club is questioning our sustained losing record, then we have serious problems.
Why doesn’t Brendan McCartney get any credit for the results after the premiership?
I hope Matt Boyd comes back at some point. Might have to be post Bevo.It’s not just age though it’s maturity. Aker was an older player who brought goal sense to the club but no leadership and was a difficult personality. The benefit of Hodge (like him or loath him) was he brought unshakable faith in himself and uncompromising standards to a young Brissie team. If I’m 18-23 I would listen to Bont respectfully; but I’d go to war for Dale Morris as he was just such a bloody warrior and expected the same from everyone arounD him. Boyd; uncompromising trainer and had that same gravitas. I’m just not sure who we have in our list profile that gives us that... Maybe Wallis but he hasn’t got the same runs on the board. So; I’d like to helicopter one in given our current profile.
Are you really saying that our last 4 years is better than what we historically produce as a club...therefore we should be happy? Really?Referring to the Bevo era as a period of a 'sustained losing record' just doesn't match the facts.
We've only lost more than won in 1 of Bevo's 6 seasons (2018). His overall winning % is better than any long term coach in our history and we are odds on to make our 4th final series in 6 years.
I've supported the Dogs through periods of sustained losing and this is a long way from that.
Are you really saying that our last 4 years is better than what we historically produce as a club...therefore we should be happy? Really?
And I referred to our past four years as a sustained period with a losing record...not the whole Bevo era. If you are going to quote me at least be accurate.
You don't like anyone disagreeing with your opinion? WTF was the point of your snide comment?
Martin Flanagan called that out in his book about 2016 and he doesn’t support us. He in fact Named some of those people within the club in his book in a roundabout kind of way. Some of those people have been moved on tho.Been saying this since half way through 17.
As a club we are happy to accept levels the best clubs won’t and it’s ingrained in many.
Instead of wanting more success they revert back to 16 and say we were lucky to have that and then dribble every excuse possible to justify it
You don't like anyone disagreeing with your opinion? WTF was the point of your snide comment?
Huh. You just said we agreed. But in any case, I don't mind when people disagree. Better that than an echo chamber.You don't like anyone disagreeing with your opinion? WTF was the point of your snide comment?
Martin Flanagan called that out in his book about 2016 and he doesn’t support us. He in fact some of those people within the club in his book in a roundabout kind of way. Some of those people have been moved on tho.
You posted in the sack Bevo thread...does that mean that you agree with the premise? Seriously...stop trying to be clever and stick to the subject matter.Huh. You just said we agreed. But in any case, I don't mind when people disagree. Better that than an echo chamber.
The point is that in a sack Bev thread, "jury's out" doesn't quite fit.
I agree with you MD. Great clubs just DO NOT ACCEPT MEDIOCRITY, and mediocrity can be an organisational cultural trait. Teams in Soccer/Football do not accept it in any way. look at the Real Madrid, Barca, Boca Juniors, Bayern. even when they win a championship and the style of play is not up to scratch they sack the coach. we should adopt that type of mentality. I know I am a bit off the mark, but emulating what the best do, is the only way to succeed. GO DOGS AND STEP ON MEDIOCRITY!!!Lol just proves my point
Haha sir yes sirYou posted in the sack Bevo thread...does that mean that you agree with the premise? Seriously...stop trying to be clever and stick to the subject matter.
So yeah, let's hear it guys. Start a discussion that runs a bit deeper than simply he's sh*te and not up to it. Try give your argument at least some sort of credibility
Been saying this since half way through 17.
As a club we are happy to accept levels the best clubs won’t and it’s ingrained in many.
Instead of wanting more success they revert back to 16 and say we were lucky to have that and then dribble every excuse possible to justify it
Sorry my post was being sarcastic about how there was a burst of energy giving him credit for his role in the flag but not the results subsequent. My personal view but his role in either is grossly overstated, but also don’t want to restart the debate.I started a whole thread where I got accused of kissing him on the dick. Yes he was a campaigner and when the pressure went on him he f’ed up the man management side of the coaching gig. I totally agree he set bevo up with the team he built on the inside in preparation for 2015/16. Hard man to measure - loved at Geelong, loved then loathed at the Dogs and then seemingly did fu** all at Melbourne although he was probably burnt out by then....