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One of the things that attracts me to BF is the abilty to participate in no-holds barred debates that you can't really do it most social situations. Last night was at my GF's friends for NYE. Basically about 6 guys and 6 girls sitting around drinking.
The topic turns to everybodies' favourite man, John Howard.
Some guy called Mick:
"John Howard's f***ed because he runs surplus budgets and then spends it on crap. We should all be better off than we are."
Bunsen:
Thought 1: Don't talk politics unless it's with close friends
Thought 2: Yes and no that we should be better off. Yes because the Govt could spend that money better (a lot better), but no because we've got it pretty good, i.e. no govt will ever optimise spending because they need to work the system and that means spending on getting votes.
Thought 3: Let's let this one through to the keeper.
Mick:
"John Howard won the elction because of the Freemason vote. The Freemasons rule the world and they placed him there"
Bunsen:
Thought 1: Alarm bells ring. Imaginary plane flies past my eyes towing an advertising banner. It reads: "Warning! Warning! Possible fruitloop."
Mick:
Over the next hour Mick proceeded to come out with the following revelations:
1. The Freemasons run the world
2. Bush is a Freemason and they're doing all sorts of dodgy conspiracies
Bunsen:
At this point I'm thinking, "Yep, very confident that there's all sorts of conspiracies going on in the White House and there always has been as world politics is very big business". BUT, not sure about how accurate he is with the Freemasons running the world stuff. Certainly could be true, but this guys trying to pass it off as fact.
Mick:
3. Freemasons are devil worshippers
4. When the Queen wanted Princess Di bumped off she got onto the phone and called the freemasons and they did the job.
Bunsen:
Thought 1: Advertising plane flies past my eyes again "Warning, this man is a fruitloop"
Thought 2: Could this man be Dan Warna?
Thought 3: This guy has read a Mike Moore style docco and thinks it's absolute gospel. Fruitloop
At this stage I'm saying nothing. Had to disconnect the wire from my brain to my mouth.
Mick:
5. The Freemasons killed Kennedy. Turns out the own all the land arounf the repository and grassy knoll.
Bunsen:
Thought 1: Looks like he's upped the stakes. Could be true of course but once again he's saying like he's giving us a history lesson.
Thought 2: Plane flies by again with banner, "he's officially crossed the line"
Mick:
6. The Freemasons run The Red Cross
One of the girls trying to steer the conversation into a positive direction:
"Well that's a good thing. The Red Cross are good"
Mick:
"But where do the red Cross have access to? Behind enemy lines. They're all Freemason spies."
Bunsen:
Plane flies past. Advertising logo has once again changed: "Confirmed fruitloop"
Mick:
7. The Freemasons are like Big Brother. If you're on the Internet they can come and access your computer and have a look at anything you want. All through your directories and can even look at all the stuff you've deleted.
One of the girls:
"But what about passwords?"
Mick:
"Passwords are nothing. Easy to crack"
Bunsen:
Thought 1: No
Thought 2: 128-bit encryption
Thought 3: plane flies past: "wtf is this guy on?"
Now they were just some of the main points that I made mental notes of. In between all this were al sorts of other conspiracy theories about the Freemasons including devil worshipping, US money being full of hidden cryptic devil meanings etc.
Now it's just not etiquette to go to someone's house as a guest a shoot such people down. In one respect it would have been funny (I would have liked to watch someone take him on), but in the other respect it would have been a damper. So that's why BF is an excellent forum to debate without mincing words. You don't have to worry about an uncomfortable atmosphere.
The topic turns to everybodies' favourite man, John Howard.
Some guy called Mick:
"John Howard's f***ed because he runs surplus budgets and then spends it on crap. We should all be better off than we are."
Bunsen:
Thought 1: Don't talk politics unless it's with close friends
Thought 2: Yes and no that we should be better off. Yes because the Govt could spend that money better (a lot better), but no because we've got it pretty good, i.e. no govt will ever optimise spending because they need to work the system and that means spending on getting votes.
Thought 3: Let's let this one through to the keeper.
Mick:
"John Howard won the elction because of the Freemason vote. The Freemasons rule the world and they placed him there"
Bunsen:
Thought 1: Alarm bells ring. Imaginary plane flies past my eyes towing an advertising banner. It reads: "Warning! Warning! Possible fruitloop."
Mick:
Over the next hour Mick proceeded to come out with the following revelations:
1. The Freemasons run the world
2. Bush is a Freemason and they're doing all sorts of dodgy conspiracies
Bunsen:
At this point I'm thinking, "Yep, very confident that there's all sorts of conspiracies going on in the White House and there always has been as world politics is very big business". BUT, not sure about how accurate he is with the Freemasons running the world stuff. Certainly could be true, but this guys trying to pass it off as fact.
Mick:
3. Freemasons are devil worshippers
4. When the Queen wanted Princess Di bumped off she got onto the phone and called the freemasons and they did the job.
Bunsen:
Thought 1: Advertising plane flies past my eyes again "Warning, this man is a fruitloop"
Thought 2: Could this man be Dan Warna?
Thought 3: This guy has read a Mike Moore style docco and thinks it's absolute gospel. Fruitloop
At this stage I'm saying nothing. Had to disconnect the wire from my brain to my mouth.
Mick:
5. The Freemasons killed Kennedy. Turns out the own all the land arounf the repository and grassy knoll.
Bunsen:
Thought 1: Looks like he's upped the stakes. Could be true of course but once again he's saying like he's giving us a history lesson.
Thought 2: Plane flies by again with banner, "he's officially crossed the line"
Mick:
6. The Freemasons run The Red Cross
One of the girls trying to steer the conversation into a positive direction:
"Well that's a good thing. The Red Cross are good"
Mick:
"But where do the red Cross have access to? Behind enemy lines. They're all Freemason spies."
Bunsen:
Plane flies past. Advertising logo has once again changed: "Confirmed fruitloop"
Mick:
7. The Freemasons are like Big Brother. If you're on the Internet they can come and access your computer and have a look at anything you want. All through your directories and can even look at all the stuff you've deleted.
One of the girls:
"But what about passwords?"
Mick:
"Passwords are nothing. Easy to crack"
Bunsen:
Thought 1: No
Thought 2: 128-bit encryption
Thought 3: plane flies past: "wtf is this guy on?"
Now they were just some of the main points that I made mental notes of. In between all this were al sorts of other conspiracy theories about the Freemasons including devil worshipping, US money being full of hidden cryptic devil meanings etc.
Now it's just not etiquette to go to someone's house as a guest a shoot such people down. In one respect it would have been funny (I would have liked to watch someone take him on), but in the other respect it would have been a damper. So that's why BF is an excellent forum to debate without mincing words. You don't have to worry about an uncomfortable atmosphere.

