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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

i would say the gap is even bigger then the difference at QB, young using his legs will mean he will end up a top 7 or so QB, Bulger will be around 4-6, so wont be that big a difference, also factor in the TE and i am ahead

and yeh it should be even, that is why the snake draft works, some complain about it but i think you only have to look at Cass to see that drafting late in round 1 can be good
thats a whole other conversation right there.... I dont project Young to be a good FANTASY QB... I just dont see big pass yards or TD's... and even his rush yards may not really cover it.

I think you just make reference to McNair... but they are pretty lofty heights to reach and I am not sold. Leinart would be a better fantasy prospect based on his WR class and system.
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

thats a whole other conversation right there.... I dont project Young to be a good FANTASY QB... I just dont see big pass yards or TD's... and even his rush yards may not really cover it.

I think you just make reference to McNair... but they are pretty lofty heights to reach and I am not sold. Leinart would be a better fantasy prospect based on his WR class and system.
see i would argue that young may not be a great REAL Qb this year but will be a good FANTASY Qb, for example, i dont rate vick as a realm Qb but he still came top 3 in Qbs last year, i ould argue that young is probably a better passer then Vick thanks to his height and arm strength so there is a possibility that combined with his legs he could jump into the top 5, remember if young can manage 50 yards rushing a game that makes up for 125 pssing yards or 25 passing yards and a TD, it really does help
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

ok guys, i am now deciding we have to bypass Mizza, Sven can make his picks and if Mizza is not online by the time his next picks come around, Sven can take over his team for good (if he wants to), any one not agree?
 

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Brasher (and his Bail Jumpers)

Original picks 5, 28, 37, 60, 69, 92, 101, 124, 133, 156 traded up in round 6 (pick 92 for 82), and down in round 7 (pick 101 for 111)
Thus ended up with 5, 28, 37, 60, 69, 82, 111, 124, 133, 156

Selection order RB, RB, WR, WR, QB, WR, WR, TE, DST

5. Willie Parker RB
28. Edgerrin James RB
37. Darrell Jackson WR
60. Reggie Brown WR
69. Jay Cutler QB
82. Laveranues Coles WR
111. Matt Jones WR
124. Heath Miller TE
133. New York Jets DST

Went with the back-yard bully, Wille Parker in round 1, can be inconsistent against quality defences, but torched it up a few times against below average competition last year.
Took the Edge in round 2, I would expect James' numbers to improve this year, with Leinart's development at QB making the difference
Reached for Darrell Jackson in round 3. You've got to be wary of WRs moving teams as it can be a bit of a lottery, IMO better value here in Javon Walker or Marques Colston
Made no mistakes in round 4 selecting WR Reggie Brown
In round 5 made a good value pick with QB Jay Cutler, the third 2nd year QB taken, Brett Favre or Matt Shaub may have also been considered
In round 6 took full advantage of his better draft spot with WR Laveranues Coles
Reached for WR Matt Jones in round 7, Matt projects as the 3rd wideout at Jacksonville, Greg Jennings (2nd WR at GB) was probably a better pick
Took Heath Miller in round 8 and the Jets DST in round 9. I'm no fan of the Jets pick, but DST can be a bit of a minefield after the top 4 or 5, so its hard to criticise the pick.

Overall Brasher started strong, but became a bit inconsistent as the draft progressed with a couple of questionable picks, has a good 1-2 punch at RB, and three solid WRs
Brasher is up against some quality opposition in the BFC, but should be competitive.

Grade B-
Thanks Sven!

My draft success will sit squarely with how Jackson settles in San Fran....

Strategy with WR for me was getting 4 guys I could platoon and will likely start for their respective clubs....a bit of an injury and form hedge.

Agree on DST, is a lottery and as long as thet don't start giving up 30 points a game I'll be happy.

If nothing else come game day, I know I will put out a competitive squad and I just need one of those WRs to have a career year.
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

see i would argue that young may not be a great REAL Qb this year but will be a good FANTASY Qb, for example, i dont rate vick as a realm Qb but he still came top 3 in Qbs last year, i ould argue that young is probably a better passer then Vick thanks to his height and arm strength so there is a possibility that combined with his legs he could jump into the top 5, remember if young can manage 50 yards rushing a game that makes up for 125 pssing yards or 25 passing yards and a TD, it really does help
I dont think you can justify Young as a good passer based on what we have seen so far. He 'could' be but I dont think there is enough to go on... for now I am happy to leave his in the Vick mould with less speed running.

You just have to take note that its not that Vick is such a shocking passer... its just his expectations are SO high... seriously, have a look at his pass numbers. They arent great, but he isnt hopeless as its perceived and advertised.

Young also has a much reduced run game now... two 'average' options at this point.... no notable receivers to pass two... I think its going to be a hard year....

PLUS he is on the Madden cover.
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

ok guys, i am now deciding we have to bypass Mizza, Sven can make his picks and if Mizza is not online by the time his next picks come around, Sven can take over his team for good (if he wants to), any one not agree?
I think we need to pause and discuss. This will put a massive * over our league if this decision goes though. I say he gets until tomorrow morning, just for safety.

As for a takeover I dont think we do that. Its not a great amount of time and with study, long weekends, and the fact we cant all live online. He should be fine.
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

I think we need to pause and discuss. This will put a massive * over our league if this decision goes though. I say he gets until tomorrow morning, just for safety.

As for a takeover I dont think we do that. Its not a great amount of time and with study, long weekends, and the fact we cant all live online. He should be fine.
i realise that it isnt a desirable situation, but the fact is he hasnt been online for whatever reason since friday, we cant keep waiting giving him an extra day if he simply isnt going to come on, i say sven makes his picks this time and hopefully he is online before his next time up, then we can just explain to him we couldnt wait any longer, in reality he needs RBs, Sven has already mentioned he would probably pick Rhodes and Irons for him which is the best of a bad situation for Miz, i say Sven does this and we hope Mizza turns up by his next pick which would be a week away anyway
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

I dont think you can justify Young as a good passer based on what we have seen so far. He 'could' be but I dont think there is enough to go on... for now I am happy to leave his in the Vick mould with less speed running.

You just have to take note that its not that Vick is such a shocking passer... its just his expectations are SO high... seriously, have a look at his pass numbers. They arent great, but he isnt hopeless as its perceived and advertised.

Young also has a much reduced run game now... two 'average' options at this point.... no notable receivers to pass two... I think its going to be a hard year....

PLUS he is on the Madden cover.
IMO the madden cover shouldnt come into anyones reckoning in regards to picking a fantasy team, if he doesnt do well it is because he has no help and some secod year blues, not because of some video game

young is a good leader, i think without a great star supporting cast he will be admirable, he will take it upon his own shoulders to make plays and will come up with good numbers, just wait and see
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

i realise that it isnt a desirable situation, but the fact is he hasnt been online for whatever reason since friday, we cant keep waiting giving him an extra day if he simply isnt going to come on, i say sven makes his picks this time and hopefully he is online before his next time up, then we can just explain to him we couldnt wait any longer, in reality he needs RBs, Sven has already mentioned he would probably pick Rhodes and Irons for him which is the best of a bad situation for Miz, i say Sven does this and we hope Mizza turns up by his next pick which would be a week away anyway
I'd like to hear the opinion of some others but I'd say on the back of the long weekend we give him one business day to get on here... if he is not... we proceed tomorrow morning.

I want to move on as much as everyone else because it gives me a greater chance of getting 'my guys' I guess... but then we have issues such as what if we make these picks and we still have a hold up on other guys for a few days... then Miz comes back and we are only a couple of picks advanced, however he wanted one of those others guys.

I think we play it safe.
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

i realise that it isnt a desirable situation, but the fact is he hasnt been online for whatever reason since friday, we cant keep waiting giving him an extra day if he simply isnt going to come on, i say sven makes his picks this time and hopefully he is online before his next time up, then we can just explain to him we couldnt wait any longer, in reality he needs RBs, Sven has already mentioned he would probably pick Rhodes and Irons for him which is the best of a bad situation for Miz, i say Sven does this and we hope Mizza turns up by his next pick which would be a week away anyway
Lets go with Sven's picks then ;) :)
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

I'd like to hear the opinion of some others but I'd say on the back of the long weekend we give him one business day to get on here... if he is not... we proceed tomorrow morning.

I want to move on as much as everyone else because it gives me a greater chance of getting 'my guys' I guess... but then we have issues such as what if we make these picks and we still have a hold up on other guys for a few days... then Miz comes back and we are only a couple of picks advanced, however he wanted one of those others guys.

I think we play it safe.
Thats bad luck. Hasnt been on for 5 days, he should know we would have skipped him by now.
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

I'd like to hear the opinion of some others but I'd say on the back of the long weekend we give him one business day to get on here... if he is not... we proceed tomorrow morning.

I want to move on as much as everyone else because it gives me a greater chance of getting 'my guys' I guess... but then we have issues such as what if we make these picks and we still have a hold up on other guys for a few days... then Miz comes back and we are only a couple of picks advanced, however he wanted one of those others guys.

I think we play it safe.
i already have woodsons and cassius' picks pmed to me, so already we would befour picks down the line, mizz if he knows anything should take a Rb or two here anyway so sven would be doing that, and i think we are beyond the point of waiting, from what i have seen mizz usually checks in about twice a day in the past, once at about 9 am and then again after school at 5 pm, he didnt check in this morning or last night, we could play it safe forever but he still might not appear, i too agreed with you until recently but i think he has taken long enough, he would have understand why we did it, to keep this thing moving
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

i already have woodsons and cassius' picks pmed to me, so already we would befour picks down the line, mizz if he knows anything should take a Rb or two here anyway so sven would be doing that, and i think we are beyond the point of waiting, from what i have seen mizz usually checks in about twice a day in the past, once at about 9 am and then again after school at 5 pm, he didnt check in this morning or last night, we could play it safe forever but he still might not appear, i too agreed with you until recently but i think he has taken long enough, he would have understand why we did it, to keep this thing moving
Ok - I say Rhodes and... LenDale White personally.

Irons doesnt have a shot at the starting gig.

This hurts me because I would be selecting from these but I would feel a lot better if we give him the best two.
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

Ok - I say Rhodes and... LenDale White personally.

Irons doesnt have a shot at the starting gig.

This hurts me because I would be selecting from these but I would feel a lot better if we give him the best two.
talking from my teams perspective i would be happy for fatdale to be taken as he is pathetic and wont be any good, but i agree with sven and think irons is better, i actually had my eye on him so would like him to fall, but interesting to see what others think
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

ok guys, i am now deciding we have to bypass Mizza, Sven can make his picks and if Mizza is not online by the time his next picks come around, Sven can take over his team for good (if he wants to), any one not agree?
I don't have a problem with Sven taking over AWOL Mizza. Just a question dspeed. Does Sven pick his double shot NOW? or do we by-pass these two goes? I'm not bothered if Sven is given FULL REIGNS right now...let him take two picks and perhaps Mizza & Sven can work in tandem of each other in this inaugral bf FFL... next season we may well have more guys onboard and possibily cut it to 2 seperate leagues. Victorian & interstate. :) whatever. 12 per comp. I now realise how messy 16 is. ;)
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

ok guys, i am now deciding we have to bypass Mizza, Sven can make his picks and if Mizza is not online by the time his next picks come around, Sven can take over his team for good (if he wants to), any one not agree?
I better start chatting it up so I can get in line for the next failed franchise :thumbsu:
 

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talking from my teams perspective i would be happy for fatdale to be taken as he is pathetic and wont be any good, but i agree with sven and think irons is better, i actually had my eye on him so would like him to fall, but interesting to see what others think
I'd go with Sven's picks. Irons and Rhodes.
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

I don't have a problem with Sven taking over AWOL Mizza. Just a question dspeed. Does Sven pick his double shot NOW? or do we by-pass these two goes? I'm not bothered if Sven is given FULL REIGNS right now...let him take two picks and perhaps Mizza & Sven can work in tandem of each other in this inaugral bf FFL... next season we may well have more guys onboard and possibily cut it to 2 seperate leagues. Victorian & interstate. :) whatever. 12 per comp. I now realise how messy 16 is. ;)
does sven pick now? yeh, if we decide he he can pick for him he will do it as soon as possible

in regards to a league split, would be difficult given the fact this is a keeper league woodson, if it is 16 now it is 16 for as long as it runs, thats why i originally had 12
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

does sven pick now? yeh, if we decide he he can pick for him he will do it as soon as possible

in regards to a league split, would be difficult given the fact this is a keeper league woodson, if it is 16 now it is 16 for as long as it runs, thats why i originally had 12
Keeper league....well, all depends how your squad players perform.

I'm happy to throw in all my picks and start over. We have the time still !!! :thumbsu: I'm sure a few of us would feel the same. How many numbers do we have all up?? I gather 19...wce_all_the_way is one regular poster that I'm surprised missed the cut. Balmain_forever is one I know will definately be interested. That's 20 !! Four more won't be hard to find in 2 weeks. 16 teams is very difficult to manage I feel. (yes, I'm backflipping ain't I) :p;)
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

Keeper league....well, all depends how your squad players perform.

I'm happy to throw in all my picks and start over. We have the time still !!! :thumbsu: I'm sure a few of us would feel the same. How many numbers do we have all up?? I gather 19...wce_all_the_way is one regular poster that I'm surprised missed the cut. Balmain_forever is one I know will definately be interested. That's 20 !! Four more won't be hard to find in 2 weeks. 16 teams is very difficult to manage I feel. (yes, I'm backflipping ain't I) :p;)
we havent gone through this entire 9 rounds to turn around and start again, we put it up to 16 to allow you and some others in so dont now do a backflip and say you want out, 16 is alright and makes it competitive and ensures you need knowledge to create depth, but certainly max 16
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy Football League

and if LenDale is a gun and Mizza planned on getting him all hell breaks out.

Sounds like im the minority... go for it, I dont want to get booted for dunn!! haha
 

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Re: BigFooty Fantasy League Draft Thread

At the request of dspeed I'm choosing for Mizza until he decides to rejoin the draft

Sven (nee Mizza) takes Dominic Rhodes, RB, OAK and Kenny Irons, RB, CIN with picks 144 and 145.

I think Rhodes has a shot at starting at Oakland and Irons could surprise with carries as well as catches at Cincy.
 
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