Was poor early in the season due to no water and electricity because of multiple thefts of electrical copper. By mid way through the year was very good. Gets limited wear and tear due to only senior teams training there during the week.
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Was poor early in the season due to no water and electricity because of multiple thefts of electrical copper. By mid way through the year was very good. Gets limited wear and tear due to only senior teams training there during the week.
If Jonathan brown couldn’t draw a crowd last year, doing Kouta will be able to thus year lol
Izaac Grant playing at Redan this year?
Yes. Also training with North Melbourne's VFL squad along with a couple of other Ballarat kids at the moment
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And Chris Giampaiolo to Altona. Can understand with his teaching in the area ... You would think Jarrett might have encouraged the club to find some extra $$.
Id hate to think what Lachie George is earning considering what he knocked back to coach dunnstown this year
its tiger time
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Another boost for the Panthers with Dylan Conway signing on a full time basis.
A few good ins thus far. Lots of hard work done by Pilch, committee and all involved. Baby steps
A few good ins thus far. Lots of hard work done by Pilch, committee and all involved. Baby steps
Another boost for the Panthers with Dylan Conway signing on a full time basis.
A few good ins thus far. Lots of hard work done by Pilch, committee and all involved. Baby steps
Huge, should kick 45+ easy
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Great get,
South seem to be building nicely.
South seem to be building nicely.
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I think he would still be trying to play a good standard of football on grounds that are second to none. He has plenty of years left in him before he heads out to the central highlands and the mud to earn his super.
its tiger time
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Billy Lloyd signed on at Melton South. Another good get for the Panthers.
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What's his story? Big or small? VFL?
its tiger time
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Onballer/flanker also from port. Surprise but wanted to play with the other boys and in the right age bracket
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23 years old
BOG in Wimmera 2017 GF for Horsham plus won a league medal in 2015. Played SANFL and VFL.
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Jake Lloyds brother, I remember him from his time at the Rebels.
He'll be a tricky matchup when he pushes forward of centre in particular.
The Port connection seems to be paying dividends, hopefully these guys stick around for a while and help build a platform to build upon.
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Darley appear to have signed Ben Said from st albans, ex Sunbury.
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Have the bloods snared any talls to replace Mark Orr ?
Seems to be a good get for the devils? Does he play midfield? As the devils midfield have taken a hit losing the graham brothers
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Handy get, he can go through the midfield but generally does his best work forward of centre IMO.
ah yes. If Roy can overcome injuries I’m sure he could take 1 of the spots
kicked 46 goals from 13 games last year playing for St. Albans, who were middle of the pack in div 1. Some bags against the tops sides aswell, didn’t just beat up on the bottom sides.
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Great article I thought I would share with people.
EXPERT OPINION
Gary Buckenara column: How to fix ‘broken’ VFL to create real junior talent pathway
The VFL isn’t fair to clubs or players, and now we have a chance to fix it. Recruiting expert Gary Buckenara outlines his vision for a new statewide competition and the return of the reserves.
Gary Buckenara, Herald Sun
Subscriber only
|
April 29, 2020 7:28am
AFL: Gary Lyon launched a passionate plea for footy fans to be empathetic to players who are struggling with the concept of leaving their family,...
The issues for the VFL caused by the coronavirus pandemic should be used as the catalyst to fix a broken and discriminatory competition.
The AFL and AFL Victoria have two options: Keep the league and current pathway (if you can call it that) as it is, or use this as an opportunity to analyse how it’s been running, realise major changes need to be made, and act.
The VFL is broken for three key reasons:
1. It’s not an even playing field
2. It discriminates against certain players
3. It is not a true pathway to the AFL
We all love the Marlion Pickett and Tim Kelly stories – both out of the WAFL in Western Australia — but the fact is these stories are few and far between in Victoria because the current VFL is so limited.
The VFL isn’t a fair competition as it features a mixture of stand-alone clubs (Frankston, Port Melbourne, Williamstown, Coburg and Werribee), AFL affiliate clubs (Box Hill, Casey Demons, Northern Blues and Sandringham) and AFL clubs (Essendon, Collingwood, Geelong, North Melbourne, Richmond, Western Bulldogs).
There is no balance. AFL and AFL affiliate clubs benefit because they have access to full-time coaches and development coaches as well as AFL talent, whether they’re developing or established senior players who are returning from injury or looking to regain form.
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Marlion Pickett went from the WAFL to the VFL to the AFL Grand Final in one year.
Secondly, the VFL discriminates against players who are not drafted, later developers and players from the country.
There aren’t enough spots for these players in the AFL or affiliate teams each week because AFL-listed players are playing, while stand-alone clubs such as Port Melbourne and Williamstown have established teams with senior players. So, 18 or 19-year-olds who weren’t drafted can’t get games there either. They’re forced to play at local level, which isn’t ideal for their development. Most players still want to be drafted.
If country kids aren’t drafted, they have to move to Melbourne because there’s no “pathway” competition in the country. They have to either make the decision to move away from their family despite not playing AFL football or essentially give up on their dream.
All this means the current VFL competition is not a proper pathway to the AFL.
If you’re not drafted at 18, where do you go? You sign with a VFL club, but mostly you can’t get a game because AFL-listed players and established senior players have priority.
In my roles as a recruiter at Hawthorn and then as general manager of stand-alone VFL clubs Frankston and North Ballarat, I have had many chats with young players about them being disenchanted with the pathway — they want to know the best way to stay relevant to AFL recruiters. Many have put their dream on the backburner to pursue other interests, like careers and travel.
VFL teams are currently dominated by AFL-listed players. Picture: Ian Currie
I have also spoken to many parents who are disappointed and dismayed that the pathway in Victoria has suddenly disappeared for undrafted 18-year-olds.
I have even advised players to try the WAFL or SANFL, but for young hopefuls at 18, it’s a huge decision to chase their dreams interstate with no guarantees.
We’re losing and will continue to lose potential AFL players unless we fix this pathway problem. So how do we do it?
The first step is to bring back the AFL reserves competition for the 10 Victorian clubs and play the games either as curtain-raisers or at venues such as Punt Rd and Whitten Oval.
Clubs are being forced to slash costs in the football department but not all assistant and development staff will be lost.
Clubs could have access to top-up players for their reserves teams, who come out of the VFL, and would train once a week (at night) with the AFL-listed players who aren’t selected for AFL. That’s how it used to work in the days gone by.
The second step would be a return to a true VFL competition. I would love to see the current stand-alone VFL teams and clubs with AFL affiliates be joined by teams from the country and other major regions.
Essendon players, including Stephen Milne, celebrate after winning the 1999 reserves grand final.
Create a 14-team competition featuring the following teams: Port Melbourne/Oakleigh, Williamstown/Western region, Werribee (including the Lara, Melton and Bacchus Marsh regions), Coburg/Northern, Box Hill/Eastern, Sandringham, Frankston (including Dandenong and Peninsula), Calder, Geelong, Warrnambool, Ballarat, Bendigo, Shepparton (including the Murray region) and Gippsland.
This new VFL would be a professional, high-standard league that would be a clear second-tier competition that undrafted players can strive to be part of knowing they have a clear option for footy post their draft year where they will actually have the opportunity to play seniors and receive appropriate development to potentially reach the AFL.
These new clubs could also absorb the current NAB League teams and become one club with three teams – under-17s, under 19s – as I wrote in my last column the AFL should raise the draft age to 19 – and VFL seniors.
This would create a genuine pathway and enable players to stay at the same club throughout their footy journey if they go undrafted or who are still finding their feet as a late developer. It would keep the dream alive for Victorian footballers, as it is for players in Western Australia and South Australia.
I think of Rowan Marshall. He was a later developer through North Ballarat Rebels and North Ballarat Roosters in the VFL and got his chance because of that pathway. He was lucky he was at a then-TAC Cup team that had this pathway. Today, the Rowan Marshall story is lost to football because the pathway is broken for country players.
This would also be the model for women’s football once AFLW players play only in the AFLW. Currently, they play VFLW in the winter due to the short AFLW season. All VFL teams would expand and have women’s teams.
After being overlooked in his draft year, Rowan Marshall played for the North Ballarat Roosters for three years before being rookie-listed by St Kilda.
It would need to be an even playing field with a salary cap and players only able to play for the team in their region and a restriction on interstate recruiting. It also means players from the country wouldn’t need to relocate to play footy at a higher level than local leagues.
Top-age players in the Under-19s could also be selected to play with their VFL clubs and play as the 23rd player to get exposure to playing against senior bodies.
There would obviously need to be strict rules in place, but this model would provide opportunities on so many levels. There would also be massive opening to sell this new VFL to a TV network with statewide exposure and I am sure companies like NAB, which is already a huge footy partner, would seriously look at being the VFL major sponsor.
The current VFL competition is broken and the pathway is unfair, so it’s time we do something about it. While some of my suggestions might need finetuning, the model I am proposing would provide a better pathway for the talented Victorian footballers and later developers into the future.
GARY BUCKENARA’S PLAN TO OVERHAUL THE VFL AND TALENT PATHWAY
— Commit to a new statewide VFL competition
— AFL Victorian clubs have their own AFL reserves competition
— Raise the draft age to 19
— Cancel the draft in 2020
— Raise the pathway ages to under-17 and under-19 (up from 16 and 18)
— Current NAB League teams join forces with VFL teams and become one club with multiple teams, including women’s teams
— Reduce AFL list sizes to 35 with 10 top-up players
— AFL clubs who traded for 2020 draft picks are allocated those selections in 2021 d
EXPERT OPINION
Gary Buckenara column: How to fix ‘broken’ VFL to create real junior talent pathway
The VFL isn’t fair to clubs or players, and now we have a chance to fix it. Recruiting expert Gary Buckenara outlines his vision for a new statewide competition and the return of the reserves.
Gary Buckenara, Herald Sun
Subscriber only
|
April 29, 2020 7:28am
| FOXSPORTS1:37 Gaz's passionate plea to fans |
The issues for the VFL caused by the coronavirus pandemic should be used as the catalyst to fix a broken and discriminatory competition.
The AFL and AFL Victoria have two options: Keep the league and current pathway (if you can call it that) as it is, or use this as an opportunity to analyse how it’s been running, realise major changes need to be made, and act.
The VFL is broken for three key reasons:
1. It’s not an even playing field
2. It discriminates against certain players
3. It is not a true pathway to the AFL
We all love the Marlion Pickett and Tim Kelly stories – both out of the WAFL in Western Australia — but the fact is these stories are few and far between in Victoria because the current VFL is so limited.
The VFL isn’t a fair competition as it features a mixture of stand-alone clubs (Frankston, Port Melbourne, Williamstown, Coburg and Werribee), AFL affiliate clubs (Box Hill, Casey Demons, Northern Blues and Sandringham) and AFL clubs (Essendon, Collingwood, Geelong, North Melbourne, Richmond, Western Bulldogs).
There is no balance. AFL and AFL affiliate clubs benefit because they have access to full-time coaches and development coaches as well as AFL talent, whether they’re developing or established senior players who are returning from injury or looking to regain form.
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Stand-alone clubs can’t compete with the kind of money AFL-aligned clubs have, until now, been able to throw at their VFL programs.
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Secondly, the VFL discriminates against players who are not drafted, later developers and players from the country.
There aren’t enough spots for these players in the AFL or affiliate teams each week because AFL-listed players are playing, while stand-alone clubs such as Port Melbourne and Williamstown have established teams with senior players. So, 18 or 19-year-olds who weren’t drafted can’t get games there either. They’re forced to play at local level, which isn’t ideal for their development. Most players still want to be drafted.
If country kids aren’t drafted, they have to move to Melbourne because there’s no “pathway” competition in the country. They have to either make the decision to move away from their family despite not playing AFL football or essentially give up on their dream.
All this means the current VFL competition is not a proper pathway to the AFL.
If you’re not drafted at 18, where do you go? You sign with a VFL club, but mostly you can’t get a game because AFL-listed players and established senior players have priority.
In my roles as a recruiter at Hawthorn and then as general manager of stand-alone VFL clubs Frankston and North Ballarat, I have had many chats with young players about them being disenchanted with the pathway — they want to know the best way to stay relevant to AFL recruiters. Many have put their dream on the backburner to pursue other interests, like careers and travel.
I have also spoken to many parents who are disappointed and dismayed that the pathway in Victoria has suddenly disappeared for undrafted 18-year-olds.
I have even advised players to try the WAFL or SANFL, but for young hopefuls at 18, it’s a huge decision to chase their dreams interstate with no guarantees.
We’re losing and will continue to lose potential AFL players unless we fix this pathway problem. So how do we do it?
The first step is to bring back the AFL reserves competition for the 10 Victorian clubs and play the games either as curtain-raisers or at venues such as Punt Rd and Whitten Oval.
Clubs are being forced to slash costs in the football department but not all assistant and development staff will be lost.
Clubs could have access to top-up players for their reserves teams, who come out of the VFL, and would train once a week (at night) with the AFL-listed players who aren’t selected for AFL. That’s how it used to work in the days gone by.
The second step would be a return to a true VFL competition. I would love to see the current stand-alone VFL teams and clubs with AFL affiliates be joined by teams from the country and other major regions.
Create a 14-team competition featuring the following teams: Port Melbourne/Oakleigh, Williamstown/Western region, Werribee (including the Lara, Melton and Bacchus Marsh regions), Coburg/Northern, Box Hill/Eastern, Sandringham, Frankston (including Dandenong and Peninsula), Calder, Geelong, Warrnambool, Ballarat, Bendigo, Shepparton (including the Murray region) and Gippsland.
This new VFL would be a professional, high-standard league that would be a clear second-tier competition that undrafted players can strive to be part of knowing they have a clear option for footy post their draft year where they will actually have the opportunity to play seniors and receive appropriate development to potentially reach the AFL.
These new clubs could also absorb the current NAB League teams and become one club with three teams – under-17s, under 19s – as I wrote in my last column the AFL should raise the draft age to 19 – and VFL seniors.
This would create a genuine pathway and enable players to stay at the same club throughout their footy journey if they go undrafted or who are still finding their feet as a late developer. It would keep the dream alive for Victorian footballers, as it is for players in Western Australia and South Australia.
I think of Rowan Marshall. He was a later developer through North Ballarat Rebels and North Ballarat Roosters in the VFL and got his chance because of that pathway. He was lucky he was at a then-TAC Cup team that had this pathway. Today, the Rowan Marshall story is lost to football because the pathway is broken for country players.
This would also be the model for women’s football once AFLW players play only in the AFLW. Currently, they play VFLW in the winter due to the short AFLW season. All VFL teams would expand and have women’s teams.
It would need to be an even playing field with a salary cap and players only able to play for the team in their region and a restriction on interstate recruiting. It also means players from the country wouldn’t need to relocate to play footy at a higher level than local leagues.
Top-age players in the Under-19s could also be selected to play with their VFL clubs and play as the 23rd player to get exposure to playing against senior bodies.
There would obviously need to be strict rules in place, but this model would provide opportunities on so many levels. There would also be massive opening to sell this new VFL to a TV network with statewide exposure and I am sure companies like NAB, which is already a huge footy partner, would seriously look at being the VFL major sponsor.
The current VFL competition is broken and the pathway is unfair, so it’s time we do something about it. While some of my suggestions might need finetuning, the model I am proposing would provide a better pathway for the talented Victorian footballers and later developers into the future.
GARY BUCKENARA’S PLAN TO OVERHAUL THE VFL AND TALENT PATHWAY
— Commit to a new statewide VFL competition
— AFL Victorian clubs have their own AFL reserves competition
— Raise the draft age to 19
— Cancel the draft in 2020
— Raise the pathway ages to under-17 and under-19 (up from 16 and 18)
— Current NAB League teams join forces with VFL teams and become one club with multiple teams, including women’s teams
— Reduce AFL list sizes to 35 with 10 top-up players
— AFL clubs who traded for 2020 draft picks are allocated those selections in 2021 d
