Big Bash Future

[offtherails9]

If that is to happen here the competition will need to be played in either November or February which isn't ideal. India can afford to stop for their competition being Cricket is played all year round over their. Its much difficult to do that here with just a 3 or 4 month window.

I would prefer the competition to go back to being state based. It will be shorter and feel much more organic. Nobody will miss any current BBL team.

If they were that keen on making it work they'd have the NY Test done on the 5th and ramp up the BBL pretty much straight away ending at the end of Jan. Give the national players 3 or 4 weeks including finals of playing which really does improve the quality.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

this, so much this


India stops there international schedule to allow the IPL to go ahead with all of there international Indian players to participate. Cricket Australia &/or the players association wouldn't have that here in Australia

India dont have football codes to share the grounds with the other months of the year though so they have more schedule flexibility.

 

[akkaps]

India dont have football codes to share the grounds with the other months of the year though so they have more schedule flexibility.

What's stopping the BBL from playing in venues like Junction Oval and North Sydney Oval? The crowds in the BBL do not justify playing at the MCG, why not just have a packed out crowd at a domestic ground .

 

[eddiesmith]

India dont have football codes to share the grounds with the other months of the year though so they have more schedule flexibility.

Although in Australia it’s more about weather and trying to maximise the holiday period.

But a 4 week BBL beginning on Boxing Day and finishing on Australia Day you’d still miss the 12 test players for the first 2 weeks but really how many if then are truly missed?

Having no ODIs or T20Is after the Sydney test at least means the white ball stars can play. Starting after Christmas and a short window maybe it can be more attractive to internationals? Plus you lose the ridiculous situation of players missing games to go home or a team being out of contention before January when crowds would usually increase.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

What's stopping the BBL from playing in venues like Junction Oval and North Sydney Oval? The crowds in the BBL do not justify playing at the MCG, why not just have a packed out crowd at a domestic ground .

Too small-at those grounds just become 220 a side 6 fests where there is no realistic contest between bat and ball. And the bigger grounds (that give a better balancd between bat and ball) are unavailable to the other codes a lot of the months of the year.

 

[Teen Wolf]

Junction Oval doesn't even have lights ffs, and can only fit half of what a rock bottom MCG crowd is for a Stars game.

There's also the matter of contracts. For obvious reasons, the MCC can afford to be rather dictatorial with regards to what cricket matches are played at the G.

 

[footyfan1978]

Although in Australia it’s more about weather and trying to maximise the holiday period.

But a 4 week BBL beginning on Boxing Day and finishing on Australia Day you’d still miss the 12 test players for the first 2 weeks but really how many if then are truly missed?

A three week tournament would probably work best.
Start about Dec 20 and finish about Jan 10.
The finals you get back your international level players from Australia Test squad after Sydney Test.
Your 8 franchises play 8 matches and then the top five in the finals series after the Sydney Test over.
Then after that over the domestic players go back to Shield cricket probably and then I'd have an annual three week ODI series of Australia, NZ and one other nation from mid Jan to early Feb before kids back to school.

 

[Teen Wolf]

The simple solution is to just not have a NY men's Test. Move the Sydney Test to sometime when it doesn't rain so much (late Nov/early Dec, if I'm not mistaken), and make it a day-nighter to maintain crowds/ratings (and emphasise the pink theme).

Boxing Day becomes a fitting finale to the men's Test summer, and suddenly all the top players are BBL available for the entirety of January.

 

[akkaps]

Too small-at those grounds just become 220 a side 6 fests where there is no realistic contest between bat and ball. And the bigger grounds (that give a better balancd between bat and ball) are unavailable to the other codes a lot of the months of the year.

I didn’t see the Perf Scorcher game, but how far was the rope from the fence ?

 

[akkaps]

Junction Oval doesn't even have lights ffs, and can only fit half of what a rock bottom MCG crowd is for a Stars game.

There's also the matter of contracts. For obvious reasons, the MCC can afford to be rather dictatorial with regards to what cricket matches are played at the G.

What’s wrong with playing games during the day ?

 

[Teen Wolf]

What’s wrong with playing games during the day ?

Nothing wrong with the rare afternoon game, particularly on the weekend to form a TV double-header and help compress the season.

But you can't have any team, much less the Stars, playing all or many of their home games outside of prime time... not without a dramatic decrease in viewership.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

Nothing wrong with the rare afternoon game, particularly on the weekend to form a TV double-header and help compress the season.

But you can't have any team, much less the Stars, playing all or many of their home games outside of prime time... not without a dramatic decrease in viewership.

Lol. Stars don't deserve to play at the G. Putrid team playing putrid cricket.

 

[Redline]

I think the SCG test needs to move for the schedule to work, boxing day as well but I understand that's not going to happen. BBL should go from Boxing day to Australia Day regardless of other tournaments.

I think people have to realise that reducing the tournament comes at a loss in revenue so the sport can't afford to cut the season to short.

It's ironic that those who dislike the BBL and want more shield cricket are going to see a reduction in shield cricket as a consequence. The days of ten rounds of four day games in front of no one with no TV rights are coming to end.

 

[corbies]

I think the SCG test needs to move for the schedule to work, boxing day as well but I understand that's not going to happen. BBL should go from Boxing day to Australia Day regardless of other tournaments.

I think people have to realise that reducing the tournament comes at a loss in revenue so the sport can't afford to cut the season to short.

It's ironic that those who dislike the BBL and want more shield cricket are going to see a reduction in shield cricket as a consequence. The days of ten rounds of four day games in front of no one with no TV rights are coming to end.

They're already announced theyre cutting the tournament back to 10 games for each side as part of the new TV rights deal. They're very happy with the associated revenues from the announced reduced season.

 

[gtrxuone]

Junction Oval doesn't even have lights ffs, and can only fit half of what a rock bottom MCG crowd is for a Stars game.

There's also the matter of contracts. For obvious reasons, the MCC can afford to be rather dictatorial with regards to what cricket matches are played at the G.

How about down at Geelong.Or is that to far from Melbourne.

 

[Teen Wolf]

How about down at Geelong.Or is that to far from Melbourne.

It's closer than the Gold Coast or Moe, at least.

However, the initial premise was that games in venues with <10k capacity have an enticing atmosphere/visual appeal, which a) can be true, and b) has nothing to do with the soon-to-be 40,000-seater in Geelong.

A crowd of 10-20k at the MCG vs a crowd of 5-10k at Kardinia Park... what's the difference.

 

[akkaps]

It's closer than the Gold Coast or Moe, at least.

However, the initial premise was that games in venues with <10k capacity have an enticing atmosphere/visual appeal, which a) can be true, and b) has nothing to do with the soon-to-be 40,000-seater in Geelong.

A crowd of 10-20k at the MCG vs a crowd of 5-10k at Kardinia Park... what's the difference.

My initial premise that there is not need to use a 100k seater for 10k people max., and the grounds are being used for the AFL in Sep-Oct. So find grounds that can support both these points.

 

[big_e]

I think the SCG test needs to move for the schedule to work, boxing day as well but I understand that's not going to happen. BBL should go from Boxing day to Australia Day regardless of other tournaments.

I think people have to realise that reducing the tournament comes at a loss in revenue so the sport can't afford to cut the season to short.

It's ironic that those who dislike the BBL and want more shield cricket are going to see a reduction in shield cricket as a consequence. The days of ten rounds of four day games in front of no one with no TV rights are coming to end.

Test summer finishing with the Boxing Day Test and the BBL starting with a double header on the same day would be huge. Test players miss one game of BBL, maybe two, but then it's wall to wall domestic cricket on prime time TV for a month.

We could/should make better use of the Top End and play a couple of rounds of Shield cricket in August/September, to get more red-ball cricket in before the tests.

 

[Around the Wicket]

6 Team comp, Top 3 Final series, will make the talent of the teams stronger.

 

[Redline]

6 Team comp, Top 3 Final series, will make the talent of the teams stronger.

Ideal in one sense but makes fixturing difficult and we would end up with days with no Cricket played. We need a game every day and the occasional double header.

 

[akkaps]

Ideal in one sense but makes fixturing difficult and we would end up with days with no Cricket played. We need a game every day and the occasional double header.

Does cricket need to be everyday? The BBL, Hundred, and the IPL are the only leagues that have more than 7 teams at the moment.

10 teams : India
8 teams : Australia, Hundred
7 teams : Bangladesh
6 teams : New Zealand, Pakistan, South Africa, UAE, USA, Windies
5 teams : Sri Lanka

At least the Hundred works along side the women’s Hundred, so there are limits no game days.
The SuperSmash, runs with doubles headers everyday with the women’s version and there are days no of games.

 

[11kgm]

Does cricket need to be everyday? The BBL, Hundred, and the IPL are the only leagues that have more than 7 teams at the moment.

10 teams : India
8 teams : Australia, Hundred
7 teams : Bangladesh
6 teams : New Zealand, Pakistan, South Africa, UAE, USA, Windies
5 teams : Sri Lanka

At least the Hundred works along side the women’s Hundred, so there are limits no game days.
The SuperSmash, runs with doubles headers everyday with the women’s version and there are days no of games.

We also have the lowest population of all those bar NZ

6 teams just makes sense

 

[big_e]

Does cricket need to be everyday? The BBL, Hundred, and the IPL are the only leagues that have more than 7 teams at the moment.

10 teams : India
8 teams : Australia, Hundred
7 teams : Bangladesh
6 teams : New Zealand, Pakistan, South Africa, UAE, USA, Windies
5 teams : Sri Lanka

At least the Hundred works along side the women’s Hundred, so there are limits no game days.
The SuperSmash, runs with doubles headers everyday with the women’s version and there are days no of games.

How many of those leagues have the same teams as their respective first-class comp?

How many have teams based in cities rather than their counties or provinces, etc?

And is it just a coincidence that the three strongest cricketing nations have the most teams in their comp?

And the biggest league of all is played every day.

 

[Aussie_boy]

Does cricket need to be everyday? The BBL, Hundred, and the IPL are the only leagues that have more than 7 teams at the moment.

10 teams : India
8 teams : Australia, Hundred
7 teams : Bangladesh
6 teams : New Zealand, Pakistan, South Africa, UAE, USA, Windies
5 teams : Sri Lanka

At least the Hundred works along side the women’s Hundred, so there are limits no game days.
The SuperSmash, runs with doubles headers everyday with the women’s version and there are days no of games.

Not going to count(y) the T20 blast? I think the BBL is designed to be on every night, I'd imagine the broadcasters would agree with that.

 

[akkaps]

Not going to count(y) the T20 blast? I think the BBL is designed to be on every night, I'd imagine the broadcasters would agree with that.

Do you want me to count the SMA Trophy (38 teams) or Minor League Cricket (27 teams) as well?

Part of the issue that the BBL is failing is the broadcasters.

How many of those leagues have the same teams as their respective first-class comp?

How many have teams based in cities rather than their counties or provinces, etc?

And is it just a coincidence that the three strongest cricketing nations have the most teams in their comp?

And the biggest league of all is played every day.

England, India, Sri Lanka, and South Africa all after a second T20 competition using their domestic sides. All these countries use less teams in their premier/franchise T20 league.

The BBL is the only T20 league with more teams than that country has domestic teams

Teams still represent areas or regions in the BBL just all other leagues around the world. That’s normal.

I wouldn’t say strongest, I’d says powerful. Australia are 6th in the T20I rankings.

The BBL needs to drop to six teams, and players will have to either play on back to back days or the league will have to skip days