Big Bash Future

[Del125763]

For test cricket I fear more for countries outside the Big 3, in particular NZ, SA, West Indies in particular.

Trent Boults' retirement from test cricket, Ben Stokes retiring from ODI cricket are warning signs given the current schedule is it almost impossible to balance even two forms, let alone three forms.

 

[eltrain]

For test cricket I fear more for countries outside the Big 3, in particular NZ, SA, West Indies in particular.

Trent Boults' retirement from test cricket, Ben Stokes retiring from ODI cricket are warning signs given the current schedule is it almost impossible to balance even two forms, let alone three forms.

I agree. I do think the standard home test series will always have a prominent place in the summer calendar of England and Australia, with India slotting their share in when they see fit. In the big 3 nations, Test cricket I feel is too ingrained in the fabric of the culture to go extinct.

Outside of that though, it is looking bleak. How long for example will it be financially justifiable for Cricket West Indies and Cricket South Africa to continue to host sides outside the big 3 at massive losses in front of a handful of eyeballs?

Prior to the 1940s and 50s we almost exclusively played tests against England and South Africa. I’d hate to see the day when we return to a similar arrangement (with India in place of South Africa), but it may be inevitable in the coming decade(s).

 

[The Passenger]

For test cricket I fear more for countries outside the Big 3, in particular NZ, SA, West Indies in particular.

Trent Boults' retirement from test cricket, Ben Stokes retiring from ODI cricket are warning signs given the current schedule is it almost impossible to balance even two forms, let alone three forms.

Yeah absolutely and if that "test cricket window" I mentioned above comes to fruition Australia will probably play 75% of our test cricket against India and England.

How is cricket in places like Sri Lanka and West Indies going to stay afloat when the only countries that are money spinners for them (England, India and to a lesser degree Australia) just simply don't have the time to tour there anymore?

IPL franchises aren't going to be financing jack shit for the good of the game. I doubt they'd even be interested in setting up academies in these sorts of places to help with recruitment into the IPL because they will be able to get more than enough players domestically plus from England and Australia. New Zealand and South Africa will probably be able to continue on a shoestring, jagging the odd international tour from Australia or England (probably not India) so the IPL will be able to score some players from there as well...

In the context of what is happening this is not near the most important side of what is happening, but how do you put into historical context the performances of the next generation of Kane WIlliamson, Trent Boult and Kagiso Rabada if their test cricket consists almost exclusively of contests between a barely professional South Africa or New Zealand teams playing what amount to semi professionals from Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and West Indies?

 

[swingdog]

The women's game offers a window into what I think the future men's game will be:

 

[Del125763]

The women's game offers a window into what I think the future men's game will be:

Im assuming they be just 1 off test matches?

 

[swingdog]

Im assuming they be just 1 off test matches?

Yep

 

[Del125763]

Yep

They would never have an Ashes series as a 1 off test match. But to squeeze in a schedule as such, I couldnt see why 1 series test matches couldnt be done by other nations: Pakistan, Sri Lanka, West Indies, NZ, South Africa, Afghanistan, Ireland, Bangladesh.

 

[big_e]

Not about the Big Bash but a good read about the future of cricket.

Cricket could learn from the NFL and start thinking of itself as a collective

At the moment international cricket is a loose coalition of often conflicting self-interests. If that doesn't change, the future is grim

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[corbies]

I feel incredibly uneasy about Cricket Australia proudly declaring Trent Boult has signed up for the BBL Draft given how much that hurts international cricket. It is not a good thing. They're cheering on their own demise.

 

[11kgm]

Those platinum players look like ass

Willey
Livingston
Pollard relevant probably 5 years ago

 

[akkaps]

Is there a full list of players somewhere?

 

[11kgm]

Is there a full list of players somewhere?

Boult, Shadab and Russell among BBL draft platinum players

Faf du Plessis, Chris Jordan, Rashid Khan and Liam Livingstone also included in the first round

www.espncricinfo.com

Such an underwhelming list

 

[GoldenMagpie16]

Those platinum players look like ass

Willey
Livingston
Pollard relevant probably 5 years ago

What do you consider elite then?

 

[eddiesmith]

Boult, Shadab and Russell among BBL draft platinum players

Faf du Plessis, Chris Jordan, Rashid Khan and Liam Livingstone also included in the first round

www.espncricinfo.com

Such an underwhelming list

Shocking when only 2 will be available in January…

Just kill the BBL now.

 

[Mr Taswegian]

Shocking when only 2 will be available in January…

Just kill the BBL now.

Yes that is disappointing

 

[11kgm]

What do you consider elite then?

Babar Azam, Rizwan, Malan for starters

 

[11kgm]

For some consideration
Faf - Retired
Roy - 23rd in T20 rankings
Livingstone - 71 in T20 rankings
Billings - No Ranking
Pollard/Russell/Bravo - Retired
Boult - 24th in T20 Rankings
Jordan - 17th in T20 Rankings
Rashid - 5th in T20 Rankings
Willey - 76th in T20 Rankings
Khan - 16th in T20 Rankings

Notable big names missing for the list
Azam
Rizwan
Markram
Malan
Pooran

 

[akkaps]

Here's a list of players from the BBL list that aer also playing at either UAE or SA. 48 players out of the total of 280 on the list
Faf, Livingstone, Billings, Pollard, DreRus, DJ Bravo, Rashid, Chris Jordan and Boult are all listed on this list and are all Platinum ranked players.
Leaving only Jason Roy, David Willey, and Shadab Khan as the only Platinum's that are staying the full season.

* the full SA lists haven't been announced yet, and there is no cross over in the UAE and SA comps so far.

Akeal Hosein	TRI	George Munsey	ENG	Rahmanullah Gurbaz	AFG
Alex Hales	ENG	Hazratullah Zazai	AFG	Rashid Khan	AFG
Ali Khan	USA	Imran Tahir	RSA	Ravi Rampaul	TRI
Andre Russell	JAM	James Vince	ENG	Reece Topley	ENG
Azam Khan	PAK	Jamie Overton	ENG	Rehan Ahmed	ENG
Benny Howell	ENG	Kieron Pollard	TRI	Richard Gleeson	ENG
Blessing Muzarabani	ZIM	Liam Dawson	ENG	Sam Billings	ENG
Brandon Glover	NED	Liam Livingstone	ENG	Samit Patel	ENG
Chris Jordan	ENG	Maheesh Theekshana	SRI	Sheldon Cottrell	JAM
Colin Munro	NZL	Mark Deyal	TRI	Sherfane Rutherford	GUY
Dominic Drakes	BRB	Migael Pretorius	RSA	Tom Banton	ENG
Dwayne Bravo	TRI	Mujeeb Ur Rahman	AFG	Tom Curran	ENG
Evin Lewis	TRI	Obed McCoy	VIN	Tom Kohler-Cadmore	ENG
Fazalhaq Farooqi	AFG	Ollie Pope	ENG	Trent Boult	NZL
Faf Du Plessis	RSA	Paul Stirling	IRL	Wayne Madsen	ENG
Fred Klaassen	NED	Qais Ahmad	AFG	Zahir Khan	AFG

 

[Nicho50]

For some consideration
Faf - Retired
Roy - 23rd in T20 rankings
Livingstone - 71 in T20 rankings
Billings - No Ranking
Pollard/Russell/Bravo - Retired
Boult - 24th in T20 Rankings
Jordan - 17th in T20 Rankings
Rashid - 5th in T20 Rankings
Willey - 76th in T20 Rankings
Khan - 16th in T20 Rankings

Notable big names missing for the list
Azam
Rizwan
Markram
Malan
Pooran

Can the renegades take Babar or Pooran over any of of the platinums asnumber one pick?

I’d be taking either of them at 1 or otherwise it’s Faf or Dre

 

[11kgm]

Can the renegades take Babar or Pooran over any of of the platinums asnumber one pick?

I’d be taking either of them at 1 or otherwise it’s Faf or Dre

Dre is linked to Stars I think so if they bid he'll go there
You have to take a platinum player with a platinum pick

 

[peternorth]

Boult, Shadab and Russell among BBL draft platinum players

Faf du Plessis, Chris Jordan, Rashid Khan and Liam Livingstone also included in the first round

www.espncricinfo.com

Such an underwhelming list

1. Batsmans gloves are huge!
2. look at that perfect seam!

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Those platinum players look like ass

Willey
Livingston
Pollard relevant probably 5 years ago

Livingstone is close to the best t20 player in the world.

 

[11kgm]

Livingstone is close to the best t20 player in the world.

ranked 71 in the world not exactly screaming best in the world

coming off a high score of 18 is his last T20 series

averaging 28 in T20s

 

[LukeParkerno1]

ranked 71 in the world not exactly screaming best in the world

coming off a high score of 18 is his last T20 series

averaging 28 in T20s

Averages mean stuff all it’s all about SR’s plus a very handy spinner and a gun in the field. Would take him pick 1 without any question

 

[11kgm]

Averages mean stuff all it’s all about SR’s plus a very handy spinner and a gun in the field. Would take him pick 1 without any question

I mean over those players it's Wish IPL

Im saying there are others who aren't in that Cat who are light years better but didn't want to come to our shitty comp