BBL Big Bash League Expansion Thread

[Hellgood]

We'll join forces with NZ and the four biggest cities over there can have a team, making a 12 team comp.

Not this shit again...

WA certainly seemed to embrace the Big Bash earlier than most and have had rabid support the entire time. That plus the stadium makes the case for a second team. Though personally I don't see the need for any new teams.

As an aside, the 'minor city' stuff annoys me too. We're not that far off overhauling Brisbane as the third biggest city in Australia. How big does it have to get to be 'major'.

The rabid support though I do feel that a considerable portion of that came from state pride.

 

[madmug]

Its Geelong by miles. 1/ They have the ground ready to go, it will hold 35000. 2/ They love their sport in Geelong. 3/ Weather is perfect 4/ Train station 5 minutes from the entrance. 5/ Short walk to the city centre. No need to look anywhere else.

ACT clearly in front. They already have ODI cricket so CA are well under way to growing the game their. Id say then GC.
Geelong is part of the Melbourne footprint. I cant see CA wanting a 3rd team in the area anytime soon.
Id think Geelong would be like Illawarra or Newcastle, not on the CA radar as yet.

 

[roscreasl98]

ACT clearly in front. They already have ODI cricket so CA are well under way to growing the game their. Id say then GC.
Geelong is part of the Melbourne footprint. I cant see CA wanting a 3rd team in the area anytime soon.
Id think Geelong would be like Illawarra or Newcastle, not on the CA radar as yet.

No way. Geelong has successfully hosted A league soccer, 22,000 people, afl of course, 30000 a week, has an international 20/20 coming soon. They are ready to go. They are making a big mistake if they don't come to Geelong. No one will enjoy night cricket in ACT in 10 degrees.

 

[madmug]

No way. Geelong has successfully hosted A league soccer, 22,000 people, afl of course, 30000 a week, has an international 20/20 coming soon. They are ready to go. They are making a big mistake if they don't come to Geelong. No one will enjoy night cricket in ACT in 10 degrees.

So will they get an ALeague side as well.?
Im just saying I think CA will go to new areas first & they have been more active in ACT than any other non 1st class area that I can see. I also think they'll progress slowly.

 

[roscreasl98]

So will they get an ALeague side as well.?
Im just saying I think CA will go to new areas first & they have been more active in ACT than any other non 1st class area that I can see. I also think they'll progress slowly.

Don't think they'll get a league. Just host some Victory games.

 

[madmug]

Don't think they'll get a league. Just host some Victory games.

Dont Victory get good crowds already? I mean its not like having 10 AFL clubs jammed into the area. Theirs only 2 Aleague teams in Melbourne.
Maybe Geelong would do better getting back into the NBL?
I think BBL expansion may be quite limited. I think their more likely to increase games than clubs anytime soon.
Anyway it'll be interesting to see how all those competitions handle expansion pressures.

 

[roscreasl98]

Dont Victory get good crowds already? I mean its not like having 10 AFL clubs jammed into the area. Theirs only 2 Aleague teams in Melbourne.
Maybe Geelong would do better getting back into the NBL?
I think BBL expansion may be quite limited. I think their more likely to increase games than clubs anytime soon.
Anyway it'll be interesting to see how all those competitions handle expansion pressures.

As bb and a league both summer, can only do 1 at kp.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

lol.......no.
The WACA is a horrible venue, if any new club was to play there you may as well board them up before they play a game. They'd lack identity and be up against the team offering a much better package across the river (and the new stadium is literally on the other side of the river from the WACA).

To be honest, a Fremantle team is about as good a chance to work as anything else. But they need a much better proposal. Even Subiaco Oval would be better than Fremantle Oval. One of the weaknesses of the BBL is the sole reliance on existing stadia, as they don't play enough games to warrant upgrades solely for BBL teams.

Not really - Fremantle is a suburb of Perth. I think the Council likes to think of themselves of a separate identity to Perth. It isn't

Unlike footy, there is no real cultural significance or success of Fremantle in cricket over and above any other suburb of Perth.

For a grassroots support - you'd probably have better luck with an Eastern suburbs team encompassing Midland, Guildford, Bayswater, the Hills and basing it out of Lilac Hill.

Personally though - if Perth got another team... name it Perth. There are two melbournes, two sydneys, why try and be overcreative and isolate support to a singular suburb.

 

[madmug]

As bb and a league both summer, can only do 1 at kp.

I guess so. The cricket idiots here are talking about A league at Bellerive oval!

I think North Hobart oval will be the soccer target. Its a narrow ground with natural amphitheatre on one side. It could stuff it for footy though. Not that the AFL would give a toss.

 

[JackOutback]

I would rather an ACT team over another franchise in an existing market (and that includes Geelong).

 

[madmug]

I would rather an ACT team over another franchise in an existing market (and that includes Geelong).

I think that's what CA would be looking at.
As I said, I recon an increase in games before teams.
That way Geelong, FNQ etc may get games. Maybe even by next season.

 

[Docker82]

Most people want two new teams or none to even it up but tbh if can competition is made to have an odd number of teams it is this one. Game (or two) every day, no AFL/EPL/NRL style rounds/match days so byes wouldn't even be a thing to worry about IMO.


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[Rob]

Not really - Fremantle is a suburb of Perth. I think the Council likes to think of themselves of a separate identity to Perth. It isn't

Unlike footy, there is no real cultural significance or success of Fremantle in cricket over and above any other suburb of Perth.

For a grassroots support - you'd probably have better luck with an Eastern suburbs team encompassing Midland, Guildford, Bayswater, the Hills and basing it out of Lilac Hill.

Personally though - if Perth got another team... name it Perth. There are two melbournes, two sydneys, why try and be overcreative and isolate support to a singular suburb.

Because everyone already follows the Scorchers. Why would anyone change if it's just Scorchers-lite? Its the reason Melbourne City has been a flop in the A-League. No-one cares about them because they don't have any point of difference to the Victory.

 

[The_Reaper]

I would rather an ACT team over another franchise in an existing market (and that includes Geelong).

Canberra
Gold Coast
Geelong
Newcastle

would be the ratings. Newcastle would be second if they had a suitable stadium but they don;t

 

[madmug]

Canberra
Gold Coast
Geelong
Newcastle

It shows the advantage Aussie rules areas have. The grounds suit cricket. That limits BBL. Newcastle, Wollongong are severely disadvantaged. ACT, Geelong, even Cairns & Launceston are more lively to get BBL games.

would be the ratings. Newcastle would be second if they had a suitable stadium but they don;t

 

[Cleavy]

Add ACT team. Then schedule each franchise to host one game at a "regional venue", if suitable venue exists.

 

[madmug]

Add ACT team. Then schedule each franchise to host one game at a "regional venue", if suitable venue exists.

If they expand, wouldnt it be 2 teams?
But yes its more likely CA would increase the matches by 1or 2 & play them regionally.

 

[JackOutback]

If they expand, wouldnt it be 2 teams?
But yes its more likely CA would increase the matches by 1or 2 & play them regionally.

Two teams isn't necessary; it's not like football where you want an even number of games each weekend, games are played every day, scheduling is not really a concern.

 

[Redline]

I just don't think the depth of players is there for expansion. I realise you can add more internationals but even now I think each team has a few players who are not up to it.

 

[Hamez]

As mentioned in here it looks like they'll increase the season to 14 games that includes regional matches before they increase the number of teams.

 

[madmug]

As mentioned in here it looks like they'll increase the season to 14 games that includes regional matches before they increase the number of teams.

The comment of 'beach by day & BBL by night'. What planet does that flogger live on. Most of us have to work for a living.

 

[ioppolo]

So which domestic comp gets shafted next season?

 

[jackess]

This won't end well but it's a better option than adding more teams and diluting the talent pool further.

Maybe a second tier competition would be a more sustainable way to make money?

 

[eth-dog]

It goes on too long already ffs. I don't mind the comp but it should only run in January.

 

[madmug]

This won't end well but it's a better option than adding more teams and diluting the talent pool further.

Maybe a second tier competition would be a more sustainable way to make money?

Australians dont do 2nd level sport. Look at sheffield shield, ODD, VFL, NSWRL etc crowds are terrible.