Big Cricket Thread

[Ochre]

I think it's probably the right call tbh, but CA could not have handled this entire thing worse, which is a theme for them.

 

[squashface]

After the circus that it has been, his position was probably untenable tbh. Hard to lead a side when there is this much public doubt on your ability to do so.

 

[DanWCE]

Come back to the Scorchers, JL

 

[Truckosaurus]

It's an interesting contrast between Langer's unpopularity with some of the Australian players and how loved he seems to be by the players he coached for the Scorchers.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Also it's bizarre to read people on the Cricket board (I know, my own fault for going there) criticising JL for only getting a 2-2 result in the Ashes in England, like that wasn't our best showing there for decades and didn't retain the trophy.

 

[larrikin]

Come back to the Scorchers, JL

He's going to England.

 

[DanWCE]

He's going to England.

That makes me feel dirty.

Is he still involved with WCE? That might be over once he relocates.

 

[darksquare]

I'm guessing the discussions with Langer were "if you resign so we don't have to be seen to be sacking you, we will give you a large payout". On those terms, he's better off out of it.

Although, to be fair, he's a polarising person. This has been true ever since he was a junior. He's just got a knack of rubbing people up the wrong way.

 

[Truckosaurus]

I doubt a payout came into it - he turned down bonus payments because he didn't feel he could accept them while staff were being laid off. I don't think money is what he was after in the job.

 

[ioppolo]

Also it's bizarre to read people on the Cricket board (I know, my own fault for going there) criticising JL for only getting a 2-2 result in the Ashes in England, like that wasn't our best showing there for decades and didn't retain the trophy.

That Ben Stokes disaster has caused trauma for many, that they will never get over.

 

[InTheWings]

Just my thoughts...

 

[Dazzler9]

I think it's probably the right call tbh, but CA could not have handled this entire thing worse, which is a theme for them.

Why? Not spoiling for an argument, but in what way is it the right call?

 

[amazingjoshy]

Why? Not spoiling for an argument, but in what way is it the right call?

He didn't win the Ashes 5-0

 

[Dazzler9]

'It's a really sad day,' Ponting says​

Former Australian captain Ricky Ponting said it was "almost embarrassing" the way Cricket Australia handled the ousting of then-Test captain Tim Paine just before the Ashes, and now Langer.

"[It] sounds like he mustn't have had the full backing of the board," Ponting told ABC radio Melbourne.

"He was very keen to continue on in the role, as he should've been, having just won a T20 World Cup and the 4-0 result in the Ashes.

"It seems like a very strange time for a coach to be departing. Reading the tea leaves, it seems, as he would say, a very small group of the playing group and he believes a couple of staff around the team, haven't loved the way he's gone about it.

"And that's been enough to force a man that's put his life heart and soul into Australian cricket and done what I believe is a sensational job in turning around the culture and the way the Australian cricket team has been looked at over the last three or four years. It's been enough to push him out of his dream job

 

[WCErevival]

Is a cricket coach even required?

 

[Godfather32]

Is a cricket coach even required?

Yes

 

[THE A5]

Yeah for the lols I’d love to see him go coach england and pummel us in the next ashes.

 

[Tugga27]

He's going to England.

I'd be putting my money on the IPL and BBL.

 

[Ochre]

Why? Not spoiling for an argument, but in what way is it the right call?

Players absolutely can not stand him and wanted him gone, and Cummins doesn't strike me as the kind of person who's going to throw the toys out of the cot just because someone's mean to him.

His record up until the middle of last year was poor, with the 2019 Ashes being the only exception, and after his role was greatly reduced last year when the players mutinied, the results seemed to improve greatly.

 

[ep2018]

I'd take him back as the state coach, even tho Voges won the BBL this season.

 

[Dazzler9]

Players absolutely can not stand him and wanted him gone, and Cummins doesn't strike me as the kind of person who's going to throw the toys out of the cot just because someone's mean to him.

His record up until the middle of last year was poor, with the 2019 Ashes being the only exception, and after his role was greatly reduced last year when the players mutinied, the results seemed to improve greatly.

This could also be interpreted as -

Players didn't like being told certain truths in the post-sandpaper era and couldn't handle the necessary cultural shift.

His record was poor until he identified changes which he implemented and the results have followed. Sign of a coach who doesn't remain stagnant.

Anyway, it's done with now. Sad to see it end the way it has though.

 

[Tugga27]

Players absolutely can not stand him and wanted him gone, and Cummins doesn't strike me as the kind of person who's going to throw the toys out of the cot just because someone's mean to him.

His record up until the middle of last year was poor, with the 2019 Ashes being the only exception, and after his role was greatly reduced last year when the players mutinied, the results seemed to improve greatly.

TBF, when he took over, he had to play a year without his best two batsmen.
Retaining the Ashes in England was big, as was winning here in Australia.
The T20 was a huge win.

From what I've read, it's a few players who didn't want him.

He had to walk though.
If you're not getting board support, you have to go.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Matty Hayden basically in tears over it.

 

[Godfather32]

This could also be interpreted as -

Players didn't like being told certain truths in the post-sandpaper era and couldn't handle the necessary cultural shift.

His record was poor until he identified changes which he implemented and the results have followed. Sign of a coach who doesn't remain stagnant.

Anyway, it's done with now. Sad to see it end the way it has though.

Yep, Langer is the perfect coach for this team, they need a strong personality to keep them in line

 

[KBLT]

If it's not going to be JL, throw every cent in the budget at Ricky Ponting.