Big Cricket Thread

[Carbine Chaos]

My hot take was Watson was a better bowler than batsman.

Once he lost his pace, he became a very intelligent bowler with subtle variations and movement. It's a real shame that injuries never allowed him to bowl as regularly as possible (not to mention his ever-shifting roles in the batting order).

A very under-rated cricketer.

 

[Balls In]

Watto bowled roughly a third of the balls Freddie did and took roughly a third as many wickets. At much the same economy and SR.

Watto has the same number of 5W hauls. Maybe Watto would be seen as a match winner in the same light if he had been able to bowl regularly. Who knows.

Also Australia had a wealth of top flight bowlers through that era

 

[matthew_s]

I wish Warner would **** off.

New BOMBSHELL...they were told to do it...















.... 2 yrs earlier in 2016.

We've always known Warner was a slow learner.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/david-warners-manager-says-players-were-told-to-ball-tamper-at-2018-newlands-test-match/news-story/767650184bc72679077aa8cdb87e72c1

 

[Ochre]

I wish Warner would * off.

New BOMBSHELL...they were told to do it...















.... 2 yrs earlier in 2016.

We've always known Warner was a slow learner.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/david-warners-manager-says-players-were-told-to-ball-tamper-at-2018-newlands-test-match/news-story/767650184bc72679077aa8cdb87e72c1

Do you actually think Cape Town was the first time they'd ball tampered?

 

[RookiePick]

CA forgetting a golden rule. Warner knows where the bodies are buried.

 

[matthew_s]

Do you actually think Cape Town was the first time they'd ball tampered?

No I dont but the players have said it was. So...in Davie's version of events, they told him to cheat but he waited 2 years.

The whole story (everyone knew, we’d been doing it for ages) isn’t the truth that is going to set him free.

 

[darksquare]

Why bowling Chase so early?

I didn't see this post till stumps. Fortunately, I heard the commentators bring it up every over for two sessions...

 

[Goroyals22]

CA forgetting a golden rule. Warner knows where the bodies are buried.

Might be the only reason he gets picked now he can’t even flat track his way to runs these days…

 

[Truckosaurus]

This has been a very dull series. I can't even enjoy the rout because it's just sad to see the Windies like this for two decades.

 

[Dazzler9]

CA forgetting a golden rule. Warner knows where the bodies are buried.

Aren't CA on Warner's side in this? It's the independent review panel that has come up with this process, no?
Sorry, I'm overseas at the moment and can't follow the intricacies too closely.

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[DanWCE]

I didn't see this post till stumps. Fortunately, I heard the commentators bring it up every over for two sessions...

If thats true, you might be able to confirm for me where Travis Head is from.

 

[Ljp86]

He didn't want a public hearing into something that was 5 years ago which I think is fair enough.

I get most people really don't like Warner, but if you can put that part of it aside, his treatment in all of this has been disgraceful. A lifetime ban was incredibly over the top in the first place and was likely a result of how involved in the players bargaining agreement he'd been (and that whole saga was another disgrace by CA) and they've spent the past few months dragging their heels on the possibility of overturning it.

People get stuck into the AFL a lot but they are an incredibly well run organisation when you compare it to CAs history in the past decade or so.

It was embarrassing they were suspended in the first place for what is a minor offence with the incident being completely blown out of proportion. Trial by media at its finest.

 

[FKASC]

This has been a very dull series. I can't even enjoy the rout because it's just sad to see the Windies like this for two decades.

Yeah it’s depressing. Aus batting first both times has just exacerbated it too

 

[Biggie]

Yeah it’s depressing. Aus batting first both times has just exacerbated it too

Depressing seems over the top to me.

Boring makes more sense.

 

[RookiePick]

It's interesting in the "can the Windies find a way to force a draw" kinda way.

Having Labu refind his form so emphatically is unfortunate in that context.

He should double up again today if he survives the first 10 overs.

 

[FKASC]

Depressing seems over the top to me.

Boring makes more sense.

Depressing to see WI look so terrible, is what I meant

 

[darksquare]

This has been a very dull series. I can't even enjoy the rout because it's just sad to see the Windies like this for two decades.

Good test players: Roach (injured), Holder
Adequate test players: Brathwaite (although he's just Cam Bancroft minus sandpaper), de Silva, Mayers (injured), Bonner (injured)
Promising: Chanderpaul, Joseph, Seales (injured, needs to learn how to bowl with a Kookaburra)
Other: Blackwood, Brooks, Chase, Phillip, Thomas, Mindley probably (also, injured)

It really doesn't help that nearly half of their half-decent players are injured. The other problem is that their touring squad contains a lot of players over 30, and it's not clear where the next generation are coming from. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

 

[Doashuey]

Good test players: Roach (injured), Holder
Adequate test players: Brathwaite (although he's just Cam Bancroft minus sandpaper), de Silva, Mayers (injured), Bonner (injured)
Promising: Chanderpaul, Joseph, Seales (injured, needs to learn how to bowl with a Kookaburra)
Other: Blackwood, Brooks, Chase, Phillip, Thomas, Mindley probably (also, injured)

It really doesn't help that nearly half of their half-decent players are injured. The other problem is that their touring squad contains a lot of players over 30, and it's not clear where the next generation are coming from. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

Very generous rating of De Silva there.

 

[Ochre]

At least it should be better next summer when our home tests are against <checks notes> the West Indies

 

[darksquare]

Very generous rating of De Silva there.

You might be right. As a batsman, he's about as good as Ian Healy. As a keeper, he's about as good as... Peter Handscomb?

 

[Agent93]

Go on Trav. Cash in.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

I guess a good way to mitigate concerns about a young guy like Cam Green being overworked with a large number of tests, ODIs, T20Is and then the IPL is for him to just never bat in any test matches.

 

[FKASC]

Spinner on debut for Pakistan - all 5 of his team’s wickets so far, all before lunch on Day 1. Fair old intro to test cricket

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Green looked very rusty with the bat, but in the past two months his batting has been 3 runs off 2 balls in a T20 against Afghanistan, and then 20* off 28 balls in an ODI against England. Not surprised his timing was off.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Spinner on debut for Pakistan - all 5 of his team’s wickets so far, all before lunch on Day 1. Fair old intro to test cricket

That’s the guy whose average was about half of the terrible spinner that Pakistan had in their side for the first test. He finished in 7 for 114 which was a bit better than Zahid Mahmoud’s 4 for 235 in England’s first innings at Rawalpindi.

England scored 180 in the first session, breaking the record for runs scored in the first session of a test match. A record which had stood since…. their previous test in Pindi when they scored 174 in the first session.