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[Bender_]

'A moral victory': Harry Brook continues English triumph narrative despite Australia retaining the Ashes

Batter Harry Brook says England will claim a 'moral victory' at The Oval if they win the Test, despite Australia retaining the Ashes.

www.abc.net.au

I just did not see this coming at all.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Harmanpreet Kaur obliterates her stumps, blasts 'pathetic' umpiring in tie with Bangladesh

The Indian skipper was given out caught at first slip off Bangladesh's Nahida Akter. She proceeded to chuck an enormous tantrum as the ODI…

www.theroar.com.au

An all time melt from Harmanpreet

 

[Dazzler9]

Never have I been so pumped for a dead rubber.

 

[Dazzler9]

The public pronouncements coming out of the England camp have been similar to some of those after the first Test. As with then, the Aussies have kept quiet. I like this.

 

[ioppolo]

Never have I been so pumped for a dead rubber.

It is and it isn't. There's still a series to be won, and winning an away Ashes would be huge.

 

[Ochre]

Harmanpreet Kaur obliterates her stumps, blasts 'pathetic' umpiring in tie with Bangladesh

The Indian skipper was given out caught at first slip off Bangladesh's Nahida Akter. She proceeded to chuck an enormous tantrum as the ODI…

www.theroar.com.au

An all time melt from Harmanpreet

And just got a fine from the BCCI ICC. Shocked to be sitting here

 

[darksquare]

Dropping Green for Murphy seems likely to be the only change for the Oval, but I'm worried about how this leaves our bowling.

Cummins - has played 5 tests back to back, looks cooked, mentally frazzled, needs a rest
Starc - under an injury cloud
Hazlewood - under a perpetual injury cloud, even if not currently injured
Murphy - inexperienced, will be attacked, Cummins may flinch and underbowl him
Marsh - under an injury cloud, unlikely to bowl a lot anyway

Lots of potential for this to go pear-shaped.

 

[Truckosaurus]

And just got a fine from the BCCI ICC. Shocked to be sitting here

Her only mistake was accusing the umpire of cheating instead of getting her board to do it.

 

[Dazzler9]

Dropping Green for Murphy seems likely to be the only change for the Oval, but I'm worried about how this leaves our bowling.

Cummins - has played 5 tests back to back, looks cooked, mentally frazzled, needs a rest
Starc - under an injury cloud
Hazlewood - under a perpetual injury cloud, even if not currently injured
Murphy - inexperienced, will be attacked, Cummins may flinch and underbowl him
Marsh - under an injury cloud, unlikely to bowl a lot anyway

Lots of potential for this to go pear-shaped.

I think Cummins would've learnt a lesson not to underbowl Murphy.

I hope he also learnt not to wait too long to give Marsh a trundle. He's got Crawley out a few times already, don't wait till he's seeing it like a watermelon.

Also:

• bowl a 5th or 6th stump line to Crawley, with the odd bouncer.
• if Stokes catches fire, bowl it wide of off, or attack the pegs. Don't bowl into his body, or incessant bouncers.
• bowl good areas to the tail. i.e. not a bouncer barrage. (take note of Chris Woakes)
• if it all still goes pear-shaped, try a little T20 bowling. Wide yorkers, slow bouncers, etc.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I'd definitely be giving Neser the final Test, probably in place of Hazlewood.

 

[MrWoollie]

It is quite remarkable that we are 2-1 up considering everything.

1. We've lost every toss and England have got to bowl in the overcast, dark, humid, swinging times and bat in the sunny times.
2. Bowling -
a) We've bowled poorly. Too much short stuff, especially at the tail. Rotations have been strange and Marsh and Gren have been under-bowled.
b) Lyon. Huge loss
3. Batting -
a) Except for one test, Kharwaja has been poor. Warner has been worse. We've basically started 2 down most innings.
b) Starts. Too often batsmen have made starts, just to get out. Time and time again. Go on with it you pillocks.
c) Partnerships. See Starts.

Our bowlers are faster than Wood, so why is he the one that looks most dangerous?
I'd like to see us actually put it together at The Oval. Build innings, have a few decent partnerships. Bowl fast and full with the odd targeted lifter into the ribs. Shake guys like Stokes and Bairstow up a bit.

We're meant to be the best test team in the world. Time to actually show it.

 

[Forward Press]

It is and it isn't. There's still a series to be won, and winning an away Ashes would be huge.

prays for washout to ensure Australia wins 2-1

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Our bowlers are faster than Wood, so why is he the one that looks most dangerous?

Good post but this isn't true, Wood is a genuine 150+ bowler. Starc is more low to mid 140s this days and he's generally quicker than Cummins and Hazlewood.

 

[wce4premiership]

Wood the fastest of the series, but Australian batsmen are normally specialists in batting against pace. Bison looks to handle it with ease, possibly due to him having faced more of that short high paced bowling across his T20 career, possibly because he's so strong and can get the bat where it needs to be with ease.

I have a feeling we win this game, but something has got to change.

Won't be mad if Green stays in, but I'll be mad if Marsh is dropped, so on that logic I guess I don't mind Green missing this one, although I'd like to see Green open in place of Warner, with Murphy coming in. Won't happen though.

I wonder if the sting will be out of the English or if they still truly want this, I hope they come with attitude and we still beat them.

 

[Dazzler9]

All the batting needs is conversion of starts into 3 figure scores. We've been thereabouts the entire series, without ever going on with it. I think we're due.

 

[06Premiers]

'A moral victory': Harry Brook continues English triumph narrative despite Australia retaining the Ashes

Batter Harry Brook says England will claim a 'moral victory' at The Oval if they win the Test, despite Australia retaining the Ashes.

www.abc.net.au

I just did not see this coming at all.

I think the rules of cricket should be re-written such that the win goes to the team that feels as though they won, not who scored the most runs over 2 innings.

 

[Tugga27]

It is quite remarkable that we are 2-1 up considering everything.

1. We've lost every toss and England have got to bowl in the overcast, dark, humid, swinging times and bat in the sunny times.
2. Bowling -
a) We've bowled poorly. Too much short stuff, especially at the tail. Rotations have been strange and Marsh and Gren have been under-bowled.
b) Lyon. Huge loss
3. Batting -
a) Except for one test, Kharwaja has been poor. Warner has been worse. We've basically started 2 down most innings.
b) Starts. Too often batsmen have made starts, just to get out. Time and time again. Go on with it you pillocks.
c) Partnerships. See Starts.

Our bowlers are faster than Wood, so why is he the one that looks most dangerous?
I'd like to see us actually put it together at The Oval. Build innings, have a few decent partnerships. Bowl fast and full with the odd targeted lifter into the ribs. Shake guys like Stokes and Bairstow up a bit.

We're meant to be the best test team in the world. Time to actually show it.

Would hardly say Khawaja has only played well in been in 1 test TBH.

377 runs at 47 suggests otherwise.

 

[southcoast]

I think the rules of cricket should be re-written such that the win goes to the team that feels as though they won, not who scored the most runs over 2 innings.

And the other teams gets a participation certificate.


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[Astro7]

I wonder if the sting will be out of the English or if they still truly want this, I hope they come with attitude and we still beat them.

Reading around, you'd reckon they want to and will, come out breathing fire. They want to win #2 and make it
a 'moral victory' or whatever. They want to level the score and make it seem they were the real winners if it weren't for the cursed rain. Which is fair enough, but history won't show it that way.
But yes, it would therefore be 'triffic' if we rained on their parade!? (again)

 

[Bender_]

Ponting slams ‘ridiculous’ Root suggestion amid calls for concept of ‘retaining’ the Ashes to be abolished

‘Ridiculous thing to say’: Punter slams Root’s suggestion to fix Test cricket’s big problem

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Feeling Groovy]

flipping hell. Why are we hearing all of these crazy things now Australia has retained the Ashes. Plenty of times a test or even series is decided by rain. Plenty of times we have had a drawn Ashes series, hence the holder of the Ashes retains them. Plenty of times I have felt we have been the better team and lost and vice versa.

It seems there won’t be justice until all rules and conventions are upended so that England can claim victory in defeat to justify their w#nkfest over Bazball when so far pretty bloody poor conventional cricket has actually won the day (or test).

 

[Mulldogg]

Mark Wood has had a big impact on England’s resurgence in the series.

No doubt he is very slippery but it goes to show this current generation of batsmen have little experience against extreme pace compared to 20 odd years ago.

I’m certain that Brett Lee used to regularly be up around 154km/h in Test spells. Shoaib Akhtar similar. Even Shane Bond used to crank it up around the 150km/h mark when he wasn’t injured. Mohammad Zahid from Pakistan was rapid too but was also injury prone.

Bowlers that on occasion crack 150km/h now are Wood, Nortje and…can’t think of any others.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Bumrah, assuming he comes back as fast as he was.

 

[Bender_]

*ing hell. Why are we hearing all of these crazy things now Australia has retained the Ashes. Plenty of times a test or even series is decided by rain. Plenty of times we have had a drawn Ashes series, hence the holder of the Ashes retains them. Plenty of times I have felt we have been the better team and lost and vice versa.

It seems there won’t be justice until all rules and conventions are upended so that England can claim victory in defeat to justify their w#nkfest over Bazball when so far pretty bloody poor conventional cricket has actually won the day (or test).

And if they win in a series or 2 they'll do a complete 180 and praise the rules/weather/retention or play the "can't beat 'em, join 'em" card or similar. ****en whinging campaigners.

 

[UseR2006]

Really miss the likes of Lee, McGrath and Warne.
Don't think we'll ever see a lineup quite like those again.
That Ashes of 2001 was bananas looking back at the team -

Slater, Hayden, Ponting, M Waugh, S Waugh, Martyn, Gilchrist, Warne, Lee, Gillespie, McGrath

Madness.