Big Cricket Thread

[happy_eagle]

Claiming a series draw as a win for Bazball is real Fremantle Dockers territory.

 

[Truckosaurus]

A home series no less.

 

[bh90210fan]

Claiming a series draw as a win for Bazball is real Fremantle Dockers territory.

Someone should give Stokes the heads up ….

 

[matthew_s]

Claiming a series draw as a win for Bazball is real Fremantle Dockers territory.

he would have done a backflip if it wasnt for the dodgy knee

 

[Carbine Chaos]

The series was a win for BazBall as far as I can see. It was poor fielding and rain that cost them in the end.

 

[Matera92]

The series was a win for BazBall as far as I can see. It was poor fielding and rain that cost them in the end.

Winning 4/5 tosses, a magic ball change not to mention Australia's best ever off spinner getting injured absolutely didn't effect the series at all.

Bazball isn't anything cricket teams haven't been doing for 20 years. It's simply tempo cricket.

Some idiot has just given it a marketable name and the ignorant masses have eaten it up.

 

[southcoast]

The series was a win for BazBall as far as I can see. It was poor fielding and rain that cost them in the end.

I’d argue our fielding wasn’t that great either. Some poor bowling and field placements on our part didn’t help our cause either.


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[Farang83150]

Did Cummings ever say why he thought continual short stuff was a good idea?

 

[Dazzler9]

The 4 result tests were super close and could've gone either way.
The only draw was dominated by one team, but regardless the series is a 2 all draw. Suck sh!t England

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[matthew_s]

Ouch, England lose 19 and Aus lose 10 pts for slow over rates. Over half the WTC points available for the series were docked

 

[Ochre]

Winning 4/5 tosses, a magic ball change not to mention Australia's best ever off spinner getting injured absolutely didn't effect the series at all.

Bazball isn't anything cricket teams haven't been doing for 20 years. It's simply tempo cricket.

Some idiot has just given it a marketable name and the ignorant masses have eaten it up.

What this England team has done in terms of attacking mindset is so far beyond what anyone's done before.

 

[ioppolo]

Ouch, England lose 19 and Aus lose 10 pts for slow over rates. Over half the WTC points available for the series were docked

This puts the West Indies ahead of England on the WTC table

 

[matthew_s]

This puts the West Indies ahead of England on the WTC table

thats bazball results.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

What this England team has done in terms of attacking mindset is so far beyond what anyone's done before.

It's bizarre to me that some people seem incapable of giving this England side any credit for their approach to the game and (by and large) the success it has brought them (so far).

 

[squashface]

Ouch, England lose 19 and Aus lose 10 pts for slow over rates. Over half the WTC points available for the series were docked

 

[Matera92]

What this England team has done in terms of attacking mindset is so far beyond what anyone's done before.

Yep they've thrown out the defensive component and what has it got them? a series draw at home against a team missing its second best bowler despite having extremely favourable conditions/decisions/etc.

It doesn't work unless you've got everything going for you and even then it's not particularly effective against a really good team.

For the 20/20 ten second attention span idiots who only like boundaries and wickets every second ball I can see the appeal but people pretending it's revolutionising Test cricket are showing their complete lack of knowledge of the game.

 

[Ochre]

Yep they've thrown out the defensive component and what has it got them?

They've won 13 of the 18 tests Stokes/McCullum have been in charge for, having won 1 of the 17 before that. Feels like that's a little bit of an improvement to me.

 

[Tugga27]

They've won 13 of the 18 tests Stokes/McCullum have been in charge for, having won 1 of the 17 before that. Feels like that's a little bit of an improvement to me.

Some people just put their head in the sand.

Saying Bazball is not new and to quote "are showing their complete lack of knowledge of the game".

I think you have to temper it a bit as the pitches were roads and the Pommy grounds are small, but
if you have the personnel to play that type of game, it works.

Will be interesting to see how it goes in India and Australia.

 

[Dazzler9]

Some people just put their head in the sand.

Saying Bazball is not new and to quote "are showing their complete lack of knowledge of the game".

I think you have to temper it a bit as the pitches were roads and the Pommy grounds are small, but
if you have the personnel to play that type of game, it works.

Will be interesting to see how it goes in India and Australia.

It might actually work very well on our faster bouncier pitches with very little seam movement.

 

[Dazzler9]

It might actually work very well on our faster bouncier pitches with very little seam movement.

Having said that I suspect Harry Brook may similar have struggles to Joe Root in Australia. The extra bounce makes it difficult for Root to work the ball off the back foot in the arc between third man and deep cover, in the way that he does so easily in England. Brook employs a similar technique to short of a length deliveries.

Anyway, we'll see. Only 2 and a bit years to wait.

 

[FKASC]

Yep they've thrown out the defensive component and what has it got them? a series draw at home against a team missing its second best bowler despite having extremely favourable conditions/decisions/etc.

To be fair England was missing their best spinner as well (Leach) and had to drag ol Moeen out of retirement to plug the gap.

Leach is no Lyon but it’s not like it was a full strength side. Also their number 3 (Pope). And Bairstow was coming off a long term injury.

Agree the hyperbole around bazball is silly but it’s been one hell of a turnaround considering the hole they were in losing in WI.

 

[RookiePick]

We choked it all away.

Fair play to England they got it done but it's hard to see how we could have played much worse or had a worse hand of luck with the conditions.

We still managed to get it to 120 runs with 7 wickets in hand to win the series despite this.

England absolutely kissed on the dick and still only managed a drawn series. The return series will be carnage.

 

[matthew_s]

It's bizarre to me that some people seem incapable of giving this England side any credit for their approach to the game and (by and large) the success it has brought them (so far).

It's such a shame that their new approach comes with so much baggage and crazy cultish BS from within. That's the thing most people have a problem with - moral victories, the absolute dribble Ollie Robinson was quoting McCallum as saying in his column after the first test etc.

The real proof will be how their results look in 12-18 mths when other teams have adapted.

 

[Dazzler9]

It's such a shame that their new approach comes with so much baggage and crazy cultish BS from within. That's the thing most people have a problem with - moral victories, the absolute dribble Ollie Robinson was quoting McCallum as saying in his column after the first test etc.

The real proof will be how their results look in 12-18 mths when other teams have adapted.

Yep. It's hard to praise England after the way they've carried on about moral victories, spirit of cricket, saving Test cricket, bowling to 3 number 11's, etc. Followed up of course with cheaty ball changes, reviewing dropped catches, abusive Lord's toffs, and so on.

Just shut up and play your cricket without the hypocritical moralising. We'd all respect them a lot more if they did.

 

[happy_eagle]

For the 20/20 ten second attention span idiots who only like boundaries and wickets every second ball I can see the appeal but people pretending it's revolutionising Test cricket are showing their complete lack of knowledge of the game.

I am assuming you turned off Mitch Marsh's innings in protest and disgust ?

What is wrong with enjoying watching boundaries ?