Big Cricket Thread

[Tugga27]

Reckon Brisbane lost it at the toss.
Really skinny batting side and they decided to chase.

Madness.

 

[Doashuey]

Playing there Monday

Was thinking EF winner hosts the QF loser but yeah its the other way round. Spose they have the advantage of knowing conditions a bit better but dont like their chances, sidnthandel it well. Billings and Munro are huge losses.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

We wait for years to develop a world class bowling attack but as soon as they are in their prime some fans want to try another new toy, especially if he is a sandgroper.
Forget it. Jaze Starc and Cummo are the best and deserve to play every match they are available for. I would definitely have Nesser and Boland in ahead of Morris as they have slogged their guts out in shield for years and are desperately unlucky not to play a lot more Tests than they have due to being stuck behind these guys.
Morris can bide his time and earn his stripes and not be gifted a spot because we are playing a weakened WI.

Nah. Nobody is denying the big three have earned and deserve their spots (as frustrating as Starc has been at times).

But when they as a group are all the far side of 30, the heir apparent in Richo is perma crocked and the back up bowlers are old themselves I don't think it's unreasonable to argue for the blooding of a younger tearaway when the perfect chance has presented itself.

The current Test side still has a few black marks next to them, namely failing to win the away Ashes series outright and India at home (can't wait for that series). Would be great to have Morris as exposed depth to help in those causes.

 

[Bacchus]

We wait for years to develop a world class bowling attack but as soon as they are in their prime some fans want to try another new toy, especially if he is a sandgroper.
Forget it. Jaze Starc and Cummo are the best and deserve to play every match they are available for. I would definitely have Nesser and Boland in ahead of Morris as they have slogged their guts out in shield for years and are desperately unlucky not to play a lot more Tests than they have due to being stuck behind these guys.
Morris can bide his time and earn his stripes and not be gifted a spot because we are playing a weakened WI.

Neser (especially) and Boland are not test quality bowlers. They are honest toilers and good first class players but below test quality. Both are also the wrong side of 30.

Morris has greater upside, x-factor and youth on his side. I could see him as a Starc replacement.

The test team is made up of the best players available not those who’ve been around the longest.

 

[Bacchus]

Bison any chance to play in Perth tomorrow?

Should be if there is any fairness and consistency but of course there isn’t.

 

[Tugga27]

funny how the teams that win the BBL are usually the ones that don’t need to rely on the internationals

Most clubs rely on a few internationals.
Scorchers have been badly hurt losing Richardson and Turner to injury.

 

[FKASC]

Most clubs rely on a few internationals.
Scorchers have been badly hurt losing Richardson and Turner to injury.

The teams who keep their core consistent all season long are generally the best. Scorchers injuries to key players have killed us this year. Sixers are always so good because you can rely on Henriques, Abbott, Dwarshius, SOK season in season out.

 

[FKASC]

Neser (especially) and Boland are not test quality bowlers. They are honest toilers and good first class players but below test quality. Both are also the wrong side of 30.

Morris has greater upside, x-factor and youth on his side. I could see him as a Starc replacement.

The test team is made up of the best players available not those who’ve been around the longest.

I’m not sure Morris is a fraction as consistent as Starc was at the same age but I might be wrong. He seems to be one of the most overhyped players in the country at the moment, granted he’s been dicked around by CA a lot recently.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I’m not sure Morris is a fraction as consistent as Starc was at the same age but I might be wrong. He seems to be one of the most overhyped players in the country at the moment, granted he’s been dicked around by CA a lot recently.

I think he's really improved this season but also dropped a bit of pace to achieve it.

 

[Bacchus]

I’m not sure Morris is a fraction as consistent as Starc was at the same age but I might be wrong. He seems to be one of the most overhyped players in the country at the moment, granted he’s been dicked around by CA a lot recently.

I don’t recall how consistent Starc was at Morris’s age.

I do recall him as being somewhat of a mean, aggressive bowler which he seems to have lost over the years.

The comparison is a loose one, I see the similarity being raw pace for which they are prepared to sacrifice some economy.

When the hierarchy put a lot of time into developing a player they are generally on the money.

I think Morris has shown a fair bit in this season’s BBL although his last game was a stinker.
Probably should not have been one of the opening power play bowlers.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Raw pace is a bit easy to mishit to the boundary without anyone fielding there.

 

[FKASC]

Raw pace is a bit easy to mishit to the boundary without anyone fielding there.

Just don’t reckon he’s any faster than loads of other bowlers in the BBL.

 

[matthew_s]

Nah. Nobody is denying the big three have earned and deserve their spots (as frustrating as Starc has been at times).

But when they as a group are all the far side of 30, the heir apparent in Richo is perma crocked and the back up bowlers are old themselves I don't think it's unreasonable to argue for the blooding of a younger tearaway when the perfect chance has presented itself.

The current Test side still has a few black marks next to them, namely failing to win the away Ashes series outright and India at home (can't wait for that series). Would be great to have Morris as exposed depth to help in those causes.

We've also never had an issue rotating a quick over a 5 test summer in the past. Would have been the perfect opportunity this summer against weaker opposition.

 

[Ochre]

Morris has been fantastic this BBL, he had a poor game v the Sixers but when you're bowling high 140s that will happen occasionally

 

[Ochre]

Also Starc being the more consistent comparison now is an incredible full circle moment.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Bison any chance to play in Perth tomorrow?

Nah he came home for a stint between series. They guys who played from the test side were all home games .

Think mitch is relishing his time back playing for Australia

 

[Doashuey]

Nah he came home for a stint between series. They guys who played from the test side were all home games .

Think mitch is relishing his time back playing for Australia

Yeah and given his history of injury, he is rightly prioritising his last crack at Test cricket while he can. Risking missing a test and possibly finish8ng his test career due to an injury playing a one off game in a second rate T20 comp would be foolish.
Plenty of time once he is done with Tests to go and make money on the T20 circuit.
I know all the Scorchies fans want him to make them stronger for a game but would you be happy with the sugar hit if it meant the bloke cooks his Test career just as he is peaking?

 

[Doashuey]

Neser (especially) and Boland are not test quality bowlers. They are honest toilers and good first class players but below test quality. Both are also the wrong side of 30.

Morris has greater upside, x-factor and youth on his side. I could see him as a Starc replacement.

The test team is made up of the best players available not those who’ve been around the longest.

Blokes averaging 16 and 20 with the ball in their short careers arent test quality? OK then mate.
Agree with your last sentance and on exposed form in the long format Nesser and Boland both are better than Morris. His time will come but if the quartet are fit, they have earnt the spot and should keep it.

 

[Tugga27]

Just seen the top 3.

Harris, Fanning and Whiteman doesn't fill.me with any confidence.
Looks like we're bowling.

 

[Ochre]

Just seen the top 3.

Harris, Fanning and Whiteman doesn't fill.me with any confidence.
Looks like we're bowling.

The bloke we signed 5 days ago being easily the one I have most confidence in is a great sign.

 

[Ochre]

None of the top 5 have batted where they've batted today all tournament

 

[Tugga27]

We're stronger in the bowling, regardless of our last game.
Why would you elect to chase?

If Short or Weartherhold get away, we will be chasing 170 plus, which will be too much.

Just get them on the board.

 

[Ochre]

We're stronger in the bowling, regardless of our last game.
Why would you elect to chase?

If Short or Weartherhold get away, we will be chasing 170 plus, which will be too much.

Just get them on the board.

Bank on our bowlers restricting them to a below par score which makes the bats job much easier, instead of bats having to go out a make a good score first up

 

[Tugga27]

Bank on our bowlers restricting them to a below par score which makes the bats job much easier, instead of bats having to go out a make a good score first up

I'd rather our guys bat with no scoreboard pressure TBH.

Think it's the wrong call.
Time will tell I guess.

 

[Ochre]

Strikers bats are very weak, Manenti at 6 is a long tail. Would be a good day to finally get some powerplay wickets.