Big Fish ?...Hawthorn trade news and targets thread(not for trade hypotheticals)

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Any insider news on the likes of poppy and hartung?

Also Geelong board seem confident about impey heading their way..
Wouldn’t expect anything else from the Geelol board. The confidence that stems from their 2007-11 purple patch is quite something.
They really do have too many. Dom Tyson (Or is it Tom Dyson, I can never remember), Viney, Jones, Petracca, Viney, Lewis and now Balic?

It's like Collingwood's obsession with flankers
I laughed, but there is another recruiting team, one that I highly rate, who also seem to have an obsession for flankers
 

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I thought that this was a really interesting insight from Gary Buckenara in the Herald Sun into the trade period and what goes on behind the scenes.

This passage in particular caught my attention....

4. How do clubs convince players to leave their current club and join them instead?

It’s all about selling your club - selling the coaching, the opportunity that will be there compared to the club they’re currently at, the possibility for success and the big clubs such as Essendon, Collingwood, Richmond, Hawthorn and Geelong will sell the fact they are a big club with lots of members and the players will have the chance to play in front of big crowds. The potential for life after footy, be it financial or work opportunities, will also be discussed.

The senior coach and coaching staff play a huge role. They will go over to a player’s house and basically sell themselves because a player is more likely to buy into a club because of the coach - he wants to play under that coach.

I think back to Shaun Burgoyne deciding to choose Hawthorn over Essendon or staying at Port Adelaide – it really came down to his relationship with Clarko (coach Alastair Clarkson) and (fitness boss) Andrew Russell and a few others at the Hawks who Burgoyne had worked with at the Power.

Also interesting...

5. How many conversations actually take place and how many potential scenarios are thrown up? What happens when a player’s name is thrown up from your club who hasn’t asked to be traded?

Countless scenarios are thrown up because clubs don’t want to take no for an answer. A club might desperately want a player and they will keep trying.

There are also discussions on what you’ve got to deal with and so Richmond might say we need Adelaide’s first pick to get deal A done, can we get that from the Crows? A lot of that gets thrown around. There are a lot of negotiations and a lot of phone calls made.

Deals can take a while to happen because players are away so player managers will need to try and get in contact with them or clubs need to go away and consider the different scenarios that were spoken about.

A club might say no, you need to do better so then that club will go away and consider whether it can come up with a better deal or not and speak to the player manager who will then speak to the player. There are so many phone calls and conversations that happen and clubs need time to think because every club wants to get the very best deal it can. That’s why deals often get stalled.

Exit meetings are critical in establishing your trade strategy and who you’re willing to consider a deal for and who you’re not. Clubs need to let players know where they stand – we’re going in open eyes and ears and are prepared to listen and your name might come up. There might be something in it or there might not be but clubs need to be prepared and need to have had those conversations.

Normally, that conversation happens with about 15-20 players on your list.

And humourous....

7. Who are the worst clubs to deal with and why?

Essendon. You could never really get a straight answer out of the Bombers, particularly when Kevin Sheedy was coach.

He was a great coach but he treated the trade period like a game – he’d talk in riddles and change his mind. A lot of clubs actually didn’t want to do deals with Essendon or get involved in any deals that they were involved in because they’d fall over at the last minute after Sheedy changed his mind or they changed their mind as a club.

That used to occur a fair bit a while back. I don’t think clubs appreciated that and while they’re better now, there was definitely a period where clubs avoided them and it affected the Bombers on the field because they couldn’t get involved in the trade period.

Even when they were serious about a deal no club took them seriously. It was like the Boy Who Cried Wolf.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...d/news-story/c870ae945d7f874cf148420f239bf3b5
 
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As all this non-trade week BS thankfully winds it's way up and we can finally be done with that pesky H&A/finals series, id like to wish everyone the best of luck over the next 2 weeks.

May your trade week stocking be filled with less spuds than guns (spud guns aside as too confusing - although bloody hell they're good fun).

I will wait with open arms - not in consolation as every beloved Hawthorn superstar is inevitably offered up to the unforgiving football gods of clearly lesser teams as payment for the next Cameron Bruce and Bo Nixon - but in a double Dusty don't argue to distance myself from the sheer number of desperate supporters clamouring for direction in this potentially brave new world.

I look forward to another high octane trade week for no other reason than I really hate Hawthorn not dominating at some facet of the footballing calender. Call me spoilt. I will fight you.

I ask that whatever happens we all realise that a post-apocalyptic world can only survive if we all hate each other and feed off the ashes of each other's insecurities. That guy over there may be fat, but the other guy over there is really ugly and at least the first guy can lose weight. Go for the throat.

It's also worth noting that KMart is selling pitchforks on the cheap as Halloween approaches so please form an orderly line.

www.kmart.com.au/product/pitchfork--reaper-stick/1736314

I predict that we will laugh together (me at you, Dodoro and the GC Suns, not with you), cry together and beat our chests with outrage and dissatisfaction all the way up until the end of the year until we magically forget about all the things we so staunchly defended until the whole cycle kicks starts all over again and we get outraged for the first time (all over again).

Take solace over the next two weeks in the fact that I love you all. Well, let's face it not all of you. I can barely stand 99% of you.

Ultimately, I hope the Hawks go for the throat from tomorrow. Get whoever out we need to to get the next Hodge, Mitchell, Buddy and Cyril. Get me a Burgoyne now, or give me a pick that will do the job eventually. Just do something as it were.

Lead the way Hawks - just as I will when im strapped to the front of some kickass car with my face spray painted gray straddling a guitar that shoots fire and speakers blaring as we chase the last female women across a wasteland to potentially meet a nude Megan Gale.

Bring on the festivities.
 
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Bit nervous for the next week and a half. I think we might be aiming to get draft picks not players this year for the first time in a while.

I also have a feeling that we have a deal ready to go to first thing tomorrow like when we got Lake out of nowhere on the first day of trading.
 

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As all this non-trade week BS thankfully winds it's way up and we can finally be done with that pesky H&A/finals series, id like to wish everyone the best of luck over the next 2 weeks.

May your trade week stocking be filled with less spuds than guns (spud guns aside as too confusing - although bloody he'll they're good fun).

I will wait with open arms - not in consolation as every beloved Hawthorn superstar is inevitably offered up to the unforgiving football gods of clearly lesser teams as payment for the next Cameron Bruce and Bo Nixon - but in a double Dusty don't argue to distance myself from the sheer number of desperate supporters clamouring for direction in this potentially brave new world.

I look forward to another high octane trade week for no other reason than I really hate Hawthorn not dominating at some facet of the footballing calender. Call me spoilt. I will fight you.

I ask that whatever happens we all realise that a post-apocalyptic world can only survive if we all hate each other and feed off the ashes of each other's insecurities. That guy over there may be fat, but the other guy over there is really ugly and at least the first guy can lose weight. Go for the throat.

It's also worth noting that KMart is selling pitchforks on the cheap as Halloween approaches so please form an orderly line.

www.kmart.com.au/product/pitchfork--reaper-stick/1736314

I predict that we will laugh together (me at you, Dodoro and the GC Suns, not with you), cry together and beat our chests with outrage and dissatisfaction all the way up until the end of the year until we magically forget about all the things we so staunchly defended until the whole cycle kicks starts all over again and we get outraged for the first time (all over again).

Take solace over the next two weeks in the fact that I love you all. Well, let's face it not all of you. I can barely stand 99% of you.

Ultimately, I hope the Hawks go for the throat from tomorrow. Get whoever out we need to to get the next Hodge, Mitchell, Buddy and Cyril. Get me a Burgoyne now, or give me a pick that will do the job eventually. Just do something as it were.

Lead the way Hawks - just as I will when im strapped to the front of some kickass car with my face spray painted gray straddling a guitar that shoots fire and speakers blaring as we chase the last female women across a wasteland to potentially meet a nude Megan Gale.

Bring on the festivities.
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As all this non-trade week BS thankfully winds it's way up and we can finally be done with that pesky H&A/finals series, id like to wish everyone the best of luck over the next 2 weeks.

May your trade week stocking be filled with less spuds than guns (spud guns aside as too confusing - although bloody he'll they're good fun).

I will wait with open arms - not in consolation as every beloved Hawthorn superstar is inevitably offered up to the unforgiving football gods of clearly lesser teams as payment for the next Cameron Bruce and Bo Nixon - but in a double Dusty don't argue to distance myself from the sheer number of desperate supporters clamouring for direction in this potentially brave new world.

I look forward to another high octane trade week for no other reason than I really hate Hawthorn not dominating at some facet of the footballing calender. Call me spoilt. I will fight you.

I ask that whatever happens we all realise that a post-apocalyptic world can only survive if we all hate each other and feed off the ashes of each other's insecurities. That guy over there may be fat, but the other guy over there is really ugly and at least the first guy can lose weight. Go for the throat.

It's also worth noting that KMart is selling pitchforks on the cheap as Halloween approaches so please form an orderly line.

www.kmart.com.au/product/pitchfork--reaper-stick/1736314

I predict that we will laugh together (me at you, Dodoro and the GC Suns, not with you), cry together and beat our chests with outrage and dissatisfaction all the way up until the end of the year until we magically forget about all the things we so staunchly defended until the whole cycle kicks starts all over again and we get outraged for the first time (all over again).

Take solace over the next two weeks in the fact that I love you all. Well, let's face it not all of you. I can barely stand 99% of you.

Ultimately, I hope the Hawks go for the throat from tomorrow. Get whoever out we need to to get the next Hodge, Mitchell, Buddy and Cyril. Get me a Burgoyne now, or give me a pick that will do the job eventually. Just do something as it were.

Lead the way Hawks - just as I will when im strapped to the front of some kickass car with my face spray painted gray straddling a guitar that shoots fire and speakers blaring as we chase the last female women across a wasteland to potentially meet a nude Megan Gale.

Bring on the festivities.
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