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Rockford

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Don't forget the Wooden Spoon!

Should also have the team with the most trades :)
Haha, yeah, I guess we'll keep track of the spoon... you don't want to get that one back to back though ;) We'll have to add a priority pick for you at the end of the first round otherwise :p

I reckon L_W_P had the most trades locked up last season. And that's despite me trying to win it :/
 

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Rockford

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I've asked Chief if we can get our own board, he suggested we add a prefix to our threads and then we can just view threads with a certain prefix. What "name" do you reckon we use for our league/prefix?
 
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Do we really need a sub-board though? From what I can see of the other league boards, it just consists of team threads and other random threads which nobody seems to post in.
 

Rockford

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Do we really need a sub-board though? From what I can see of the other league boards, it just consists of team threads and other random threads which nobody seems to post in.
Yeah, don't think we need a sub-board. The prefix could be handy though, we could have a thread where we keep a record of the winners, medals, spoons etc.. and then find it easily with the prefix to update.
 

Rockford

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I'm going to leave my ladder predictions out of it but I'll try and predict the Premier. I've put my bullshit analysis down here to try and explain my thinking :D

There's probably 5 or 6 teams that could be there in that last match contending for the Flag. Looking at the actual fixture I was thinking there's a chance that one side will have a big advantage over another if they've got a lot of players from one of the top 4 AFL teams playing a potentially bottom 4 AFL team. A couple of players having blinders in any given round can be enough to tip the scales, especially in matches between evenly rated teams (which you'd expect the GF to be).

The fixture has GWS playing GC so no great advantage there (unless you've got an Ablett (@TomFC) or GWS guns (@richcogs).. Bennell (@Unknown Caller) might have come into his own by then but there's also a chance he'll cop the tag if Ablett plays forward more (as advertised), but the GC backs Unknown Caller is packing could have an impact).

Melbourne plays the Doggies, so again, it looks a fairly even match up at this stage of the season. Daysy_12 is sitting pretty for that match up with Wallis and Liberatore but Dalhaus and Higgins will both put up great numbers against the Dees too (@Unknown Caller again). Drew23 has Grimes and could post great numbers but I can't go past Boyd and Gia (@TomFC again) for potential stand-out influence in that match.

Carlton are playing Port, and potentially could be playing for a top 4 spot against a side that isn't all that interested. Danny_Bhoy is sitting pretty for this matchup, especially if young Menzel has worked his way into the best 22. Has a number of other Blues he could call on here. Drew23 has the lion's share of the gun Blues though and has Simpson, Gibbs, Kreuzer and Waite that could post big numbers.

One player, in one match though I think could be the difference (assuming winning the Flag with the Swans last year hasn't curtailed his hunger). Kennedy in his two games against the Hawks last season posted a total of 4 goals, 62 touches and 17 tackles! As luck would have it Kennedy and the Swans meet the Hawks in the last round of the season (and our GF) and I think coupled with Ablett and Boyd potentially having it all their way we'll be congratulating TomFC on his back to back Flags.
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TL;DR? I reckon TomFC will win it :D
 

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Unfortunately, the most important rounds of the season are the last two, and that's when teams are most likely to be affected by players being injured or rested.

And there's a full season to go between now and then. Who knows who'll get traded.

So while that's some interesting analysis Rockford, it might be a bit too early to go into that kind of depth.
 

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Of course, I named Adam Selwood, and he isn't doing much better...
Derby is never a great indicator though, some players have blinders that will be average for the rest of the year, and some of the better players have shockers. Shuey is having a shocker.. but then he was held to 11 touches last season by Crowley, so no surprises really.
 

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Hi guys - didn't know where to post this and sorry for the intrusion but I have a quick question. In ultimate footy I have Suban on the bench and as far as I know - my 4 other backmen will definitely play this weekend. Suban got 97 and I think his score will be better than 3 of my other backs. If I put one of the backs on the bench (not emergencies), will that blank score be filled with Suban's score, or will it forfeit because the player on the field hasn't recorded a 0.

Cheers and sorry again - it's just I couldn't find a general UF questions thread.
 

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If Suban is not an emergency, than his score cannot count, regardless of how many empty spaces you have in your team for 'Backs'.

If he is an emergency, then you can just replace one of your backs with a player who won't play - or leave it blank
 

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Injuries have already taken a heavy toll this season:

Morabito, Tyson, Suckling, Alex Johnson, Sandilands, Le Cras, Leuenberger, Nick Graham, Rosa, Grundy, pretty much Geelong's entire ruck division and Bock as well. All that with two games played (and the NAB).

Oh yeah, and Boyd as well.
 

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I call for a VETO on the trade just gone through.

Tom Young and Jarrod Witts for Jack Stevens and Mitchell Golby.

Young was picked up in 2010 at pick 104 and was trade last year to the Dogs for 71. He is a 195 KPD.

Jarrod Witts is a great prospect as a ruckman.

But to give up: Mitchell Golby who looks like he will move into the category of a top running fantasy defender this year and Jack Stevens top young centre centre player that you could argue had the best NAB Cup showings of anyone. Not only that will be number one midfielder for the St Kilda in a couple years when Haynes/Dal Santo/Montagna retire. Read the supercoach form guide the other day and there was an article on the AFL about him.

Now I do not Veto much at all (the few between LWP and Rockford got to me). But this is ridiculously onesided. You could of at least chucked in another good development prospect!

I know how much Rockford is wanting for Birchall and arm and a leg. Yet he gets Golby (he is a real running defender. 19 possession average as a 20 year old and looks lot better this preseason) for Young. A player not worth glamming up.
 

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As per our new veto guidelines I'll explain why I'm happy with it and then Pez can do the same.

It's hard to trade out ruck, I've been looking to trade one in and have been asked for similarly high value players going the other way. Which is why I wasn't going to trade him for less, Witts is 20, 208cm and Collingwood have committed to him, and he's perfectly positioned to take over from Jolly and Hudson who are in their last season (Jolly might play support Witts for a while yet).

I rate Steven and am counting on him to have a breakout year, which I'd need in trading a mid for a ruck. Similarly, I'm counting on Golby to lift and bring in some more possessions, if either don't then I'm hurting in a big way losing one of the best rucks over the coming seasons. Young isn't a KPD, he's always played as a running defender, but he is a make-weight at the end of the day for a couple of young guys I need to take another step in their development (and I'm confident they will, which is why I'm happy with the trade).
 

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I agree with almost all of Richcog's post (maybe not the veto part). I don't rate Young that particularly highly (although i do note from my visit to the Doggies board that most have him in their starting 22) - its basically Steven and Golby for Witts. I know the quality i'm giving up, and its not easy for me to do so. Just like buying a hotdog and a drink at the footy and getting a coin or two change from a 20, i'm paying way too much, much more than i should have to. But this is the system we have in place where young rucks are worth their weight in gold. I think i'm paying market rates.
 

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I wouldnt pay that much personally for witts but there is no doubt collingwood fans and staff compare him to sandilands. He could be great or could never play an afl game...we don't know that yet. If it was nic nat nui we were ralking about or sam jacobs a lot more would be commanded than these two.

Not a trade I would personally do but pez needs a ruck and has been struggling to find one.
 

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2 points.

Definite veto. Not even close. If we were talking about a ruckman who was in or at least on the fringes of his team's 22, then fine. But if Witts is so far away from playing that Collingwood are elevating Ben Hudson rather than rely on him to back up Jolly, then that's a signal that he's a fair way off.

If this trade does get up, or even if it doesn't, then we need to start talking about changing the rules on ruckman. Very few other UF leagues require 28 ruckman to be selected each week, and the UF positions are allocated accordingly.

As of next season I reckon we should go to one ruckman and four utilities. Teams who have multiple ruckman can still play them, and still use them to win the HO category.
 

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2 points.
If this trade does get up, or even if it doesn't, then we need to start talking about changing the rules on ruckman. Very few other UF leagues require 28 ruckman to be selected each week, and the UF positions are allocated accordingly.

As of next season I reckon we should go to one ruckman and four utilities. Teams who have multiple ruckman can still play them, and still use them to win the HO category.
Only if we start again and redraft our entire squads from scratch..
 

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It has to stay how it is. If teams drafted badly, then they need to trade to make up for their mistake. If it costs them a few good players, that is the cost.

I don't understand what the problem is - but maybe I am a bit simple..
 

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2 points.

Definite veto. Not even close. If we were talking about a ruckman who was in or at least on the fringes of his team's 22, then fine. But if Witts is so far away from playing that Collingwood are elevating Ben Hudson rather than rely on him to back up Jolly, then that's a signal that he's a fair way off.

If this trade does get up, or even if it doesn't, then we need to start talking about changing the rules on ruckman. Very few other UF leagues require 28 ruckman to be selected each week, and the UF positions are allocated accordingly.

As of next season I reckon we should go to one ruckman and four utilities. Teams who have multiple ruckman can still play them, and still use them to win the HO category.
One of the first times I agree with not about changing ruck categories, but this veto, its so clear a veto its not funny Drew23 and tenderwarrior could you please give your clear approve/disapprove vote!

I terms of one ruck category we cannot change now. Drafting was done around it. You do not necessarily need two tap ruckman, use players like Rowe or Vickery instead. Ruckman can only win you one category.

The whole talk of redrafting is just silly. We have all spent hours looking into and accessing trades now. If you don't think you have what it takes to rebuild like rockford/tender clearly can. Give up your team and move on.
 
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