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Bit of a fun exercise I saw on Twitter where Spurs fans posted their 20/21 squads had we signed some of our alleged near misses.

Lloris
Ricardo P - Skrinar - Toby - Reguillon
Ndombele - Hojberg
Dybala - Bruno Fernandes - Son
Kane

Hart, Dier, Sessengon, Maddison, Dele, Grealish, Bale

Instead of signing Aurier, Rodon, Bergwijn, Lo Celso, Clarke & Lucas for a combined 130m we could have got the 6 in bold for 220m. If only we had coughed up the extra 90m.
 
Also The Cryptkeeper that is a perfect example of the "journalism" that Gold wants to specialise in. A nothing piece about a building extension at a training lodge is given to him on the proviso he says nothing overly critical of the club
Lol it actually isn’t.

The planning application is available online for viewing, was mentioned on twitter before this article and he isn’t even the first outlet to report on it. Nothing to do with the club at all.

Think I’ll take another break again, you’ve gone back into your transfer moaning phase again and I have no energy to suffer through it again. Be less like Trevor.
 
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Lol it actually isn’t.

The planning application is available online for viewing, was mentioned on twitter before this article and he isn’t even the first outlet to report on it. Nothing to do with the club at all.

Think I’ll take another break again, you’ve gone back into your transfer moaning phase again and I have no energy to suffer through it again. Be less like Trevor.

If that’s the case then why does Gold even need to write about it at all?

Surely you can acknowledge that the guy is a puff piece merchant who serves at the pleasure of the Club?
 

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Lol it actually isn’t.

The planning application is available online for viewing, was mentioned on twitter before this article and he isn’t even the first outlet to report on it. Nothing to do with the club at all.

Think I’ll take another break again, you’ve gone back into your transfer moaning phase again and I have no energy to suffer through it again. Be less like Trevor.
Anything that Gold posts deserves to be torn down. Today he posted his inside take on the manager shortlist. It went on to say nothing at all.
 
If that’s the case then why does Gold even need to write about it at all?

Surely you can acknowledge that the guy is a puff piece merchant who serves at the pleasure of the Club?
He posts very positive pieces. That much is sure, the part about being a club insider is less known, and used as a slur to devalue his work by those who choose to see the club less positively. His video vlogs I sometimes watch certainly speak about industry sources but get the inkling he knows less within the club than is being made out.

I mean have you seen his piece on the manager short list. Not written like someone with news from the inside.

The planning applications are significant, less so this one, because the other one submitted sees ENIC’s parent company pay for the redevelopment of N17 as a housing block and hotel have now been submitted to council. Good for the area and good exposure for the club.


Anything that Gold posts deserves to be torn down. Today he posted his inside take on the manager shortlist. It went on to say nothing at all.
I often think this with half your stuff tbf.

I am about as interested in another discussion over previous transfer windows as I am a discussion on not drafting Brodie Grundy and the 8 years of drafting and trading it has affected. Done to death.
 

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I often think this with half your stuff tbf.

I am about as interested in another discussion over previous transfer windows as I am a discussion on not drafting Brodie Grundy and the 8 years of drafting and trading it has affected. Done to death.
But you're a bit weird. Most people like talking about their clubs and the what ifs and what can we do to improve. Nobody is really sure what you'd like to contribute or be part of. Not just in this thread but across the whole board tbh
 
But you're a bit weird. Most people like talking about their clubs and the what ifs and what can we do to improve. Nobody is really sure what you'd like to contribute or be part of. Not just in this thread but across the whole board tbh
Let’s look forward, not back.

Postulating about missed transfer while not acknowledging that half of them couldn’t be afforded solves nothing.

What we do from here is far more interesting.
 

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Let’s look forward, not back.

Postulating about missed transfer while not acknowledging that half of them couldn’t be afforded solves nothing.

What we do from here is far more interesting.
Move along then. Posted up a thread I saw on twitter of the couldabeen XI and how good it looked. Looks pretty impressive. If you're not interested go to the on topic thread and join in on a discussion there, others might find it interesting as others did on Twitter.
 
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I think, bottom line for me now is that I will forever be cynical of Daniel Levy, his decisions and the motivation behind them.

Leaving his shiny new stadium aside (which is worth precisely zero if we don't have a team that is capable of both winning games and entertaining the punters) I have now seen far too much to trust the guy again.

The Emperor in this case, has no clothes.
 

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I think, bottom line for me now is that I will forever be cynical of Daniel Levy, his decisions and the motivation behind them.

Leaving his shiny new stadium aside (which is worth precisely zero if we don't have a team that is capable of both winning games and entertaining the punters) I have now seen far too much to trust the guy again.

The Emperor in this case, has no clothes.
Yeah I smelt a rat looking further into Levy and Lewis and realised we were just what the I in ENIC stands for. The game is about glory lol
 
Move along then. Posted up a thread I saw on twitter of the couldabeen XI and how good it looked. Looks pretty impressive. If you're not interested go to the on topic thread and join in on a discussion there, others might find it interesting as others did on Twitter.
Far too much self loathing and woe is me in this fan base. We are now average, it is what it is.
 
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Far too much self loathing and woe is me in this fan base. We are now average, it is what it is.

Precisely why you have the fans gnashing their teeth. And let's be clear, it's not "self-loathing" at all. It is displeasure at what our club is becoming (or arguably has already become) which is nothing more than a plaything for Levy (and Lewis) and an opportunity to profit from a future sale.

Do you expect the fans to be pleased with the mismanagement (especially of the football side, you know the actual reason for our existence) of the club?

Do you not think fans should be able to at least trust the message out of the club some of the time?

Daniel Levy and Uncle Joe have been giving the middle finger to the fans for years. They tried to completely sell us out a fortnight ago...yet it is the "self-loathing fans" that are the issue?

"It is what it is."

Oh my ******* God.
 

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Precisely why you have the fans gnashing their teeth. And let's be clear, it's not "self-loathing" at all. It is displeasure at what our club is becoming (or arguably has already become) which is nothing more than a plaything for Levy (and Lewis) and an opportunity to profit from a future sale.

Do you expect the fans to be pleased with the mismanagement (especially of the football side, you know the actual reason for our existence) of the club?

Do you not think fans should be able to at least trust the message out of the club some of the time?

Daniel Levy and Uncle Joe have been giving the middle finger to the fans for years. They tried to completely sell us out a fortnight ago...yet it is the "self-loathing fans" that are the issue?

"It is what it is."

Oh my ******* God.
There are fans. And there are casual observers.

Fans of this football club are rightfully pissed off about missing our chance to actually be a top side and club. Now we are a top financial asset, a middle of the range club and bog average football side.
 
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There are fans. And there are casual observers.

Fans of this football club are rightfully pissed off about missing our chance to actually be a top side and club. Now we are a top financial asset, a middle of the range club and bog average football side.

Mate, I will be redirecting my annual membership monies to the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust until ENIC and Levy f*** off. It's a shame as over the past several years I have gone from about 60,000th on the season ticket waiting list to basically deferring my option once the new place opened (until such time as I can be in the UK often enough to use it). I have reluctantly come to the decision that I am no longer willing to put any more money into ENIC's coffers. I'll put the same amount into the Supporter's Trust instead. You know, because they actually give a s**t about what happens to the place.
 

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Mate, I will be redirecting my annual membership monies to the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust until ENIC and Levy f*** off. It's a shame as over the past several years I have gone from about 60,000th on the season ticket waiting list to basically deferring my option once the new place opened (until such time as I can be in the UK often enough to use it). I have reluctantly come to the decision that I am no longer willing to put any more money into ENIC's coffers. I'll put the same amount into the Supporter's Trust instead. You know, because they actually give a sh*t about what happens to the place.
Yeah I refuse to buy any new kit we put out. Will only buy old retro ones from small businesses. * ENIC
 
We have been heading towards average for 24 months and have now well and truly arrived. Arsenal version 2.0 is complete
Is that hardly unexpected. If you do the same things as them you will get the same. They struggled after moving from Highbury, just had Wenger to keep them afloat and no City helped. We have neither of those things.
Precisely why you have the fans gnashing their teeth. And let's be clear, it's not "self-loathing" at all. It is displeasure at what our club is becoming (or arguably has already become) which is nothing more than a plaything for Levy (and Lewis) and an opportunity to profit from a future sale.
Making us a larger entity that is worth more is not a bad thing. It invariably means more money into the club on an operational basis.
Do you expect the fans to be pleased with the mismanagement (especially of the football side, you know the actual reason for our existence) of the club?
I am more than happy to admit that we have made blunders with the squad. Find me a club that hasn’t.

The biggest issue is recruitment, and more recently coaching. Jose reportedly focused a lot on match-by-match tactics and little on coaching to make players better. We spend poorly and I do wonder if Hitchen even scouts players or is he our Ned Guy and doesn’t watch matches
Do you not think fans should be able to at least trust the message out of the club some of the time?

Daniel Levy and Uncle Joe have been giving the middle finger to the fans for years. They tried to completely sell us out a fortnight ago...yet it is the "self-loathing fans" that are the issue?
Of course they have, trying to move us to Stratford, furloughing, taxpayer loan, ESL and now charging £60 for villa game. They do not endear themselves to many.

But that doesn’t mean what I said also isn’t true. The perception I have is that many fans are unhappy with where we are (fair enough), want us to be pushing higher up the table (fair enough) but can’t see that the last 5 years were punching above our weight.

In order to make the jump up in weight class to heavyweight we need to consistently be on a level footing with these clubs for spending, and we aren’t yet. We can spend £50m+ on players here and there. But to pad out your squad like those mega clubs you not only need the transfer cash but a much larger wage bill.
There are fans. And there are casual observers.

Fans of this football club are rightfully pissed off about missing our chance to actually be a top side and club. Now we are a top financial asset, a middle of the range club and bog average football side.
That’s what happens when you punch above your weight. Eventually there is a regression back to the mean.
Mate, I will be redirecting my annual membership monies to the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust until ENIC and Levy f*** off. It's a shame as over the past several years I have gone from about 60,000th on the season ticket waiting list to basically deferring my option once the new place opened (until such time as I can be in the UK often enough to use it). I have reluctantly come to the decision that I am no longer willing to put any more money into ENIC's coffers. I'll put the same amount into the Supporter's Trust instead. You know, because they actually give a sh*t about what happens to the place.
Do they care, do many of them really care? The club committed one of the more treacherous acts and only a subsection of the trust decided to vote in favour of the response they gave the club.
 

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Club has announced they will have a fan advisory board with one non-exec board member to be fan representation.

This is a good gesture and I'll give them credit for trying something here. But it also could easily be PR puff. The club choose the fan advisory group. The club choose the board member. The advisory group could very well be seen as a looked after THST. Also the board member could easily just be a token gesture with no real say or any change in what has been happening to fans.

What we need to see from the club to prove this is more than a PR stunt?

- lower season ticket prices
- away ticket prices for games at WHL for opposing fans to be considered
- some sort of reconciliation process to the large amount of supporters around the world who are disengaged with the organisation
- clearer club objectives, like the Richmond/Gale 5 year plan because right now we are all over the shop and it puts unneeded pressure on the manager
 
- Club announces a non-executive board spot with voting rights for fans will be set up. Issues unreserved apology for ESL and states its issues with the trust, for which I agree with them on. The trust has overplayed its hand and asked for unreasonable demands to be met.

- We desperately need government regulations and covid numbers to allow fans to return, the capacity, frequency of games, food and beverage sales, NFL and 16 non-football events gives us so much money we are sorely missing atm. We need it back. The massive revenue spike and subsequent investment in the team will make the high ticket prices more worth than they are without all the benefits that come from it. That’s what’s lacking.

- Telegraph reporting we are closing in on Lyon defender Joachim Andersen for 20m. Get it done.

- PSG pursuing Aurier. Time seems right with 12 months left.




Sounds like Gareth wants to stay, now we wait to see what Zidane wants
 
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- Club announces a non-executive board spot with voting rights for fans will be set up. Issues unreserved apology for ESL and states its issues with the trust, for which I agree with them on. The trust has overplayed its hand and asked for unreasonable demands to be met.

- We desperately need government regulations and covid numbers to allow fans to return, the capacity, frequency of games, food and beverage sales, NFL and 16 non-football events gives us so much money we are sorely missing atm. We need it back. The massive revenue spike and subsequent investment in the team will make the high ticket prices more worth than they are without all the benefits that come from it. That’s what’s lacking.

- Telegraph reporting we are closing in on Lyon defender Joachim Andersen for 20m. Get it done.

- PSG pursuing Aurier. Time seems right with 12 months left.




Sounds like Gareth wants to stay, now we wait to see what Zidane wants

Anderson + Aurier -> Aarons would be a good start to the backline rebuild
Sounds like we're keen to hold Dier & sell Sanchez

i thought Bale's contract is done at seasons end and he goes where he wants?
 
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Club has announced they will have a fan advisory board with one non-exec board member to be fan representation.

This is a good gesture and I'll give them credit for trying something here. But it also could easily be PR puff. The club choose the fan advisory group. The club choose the board member. The advisory group could very well be seen as a looked after THST. Also the board member could easily just be a token gesture with no real say or any change in what has been happening to fans.

What we need to see from the club to prove this is more than a PR stunt?

- lower season ticket prices
- away ticket prices for games at WHL for opposing fans to be considered
- some sort of reconciliation process to the large amount of supporters around the world who are disengaged with the organisation
- clearer club objectives, like the Richmond/Gale 5 year plan because right now we are all over the shop and it puts unneeded pressure on the manager

And they'll engage with the THST only if the Trust doesn't discuss ENIC or the Board.

Levy and Uncle Joe want to have their cake and gorge on it too. I hope they both farking choke.
 
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Anderson + Aurier -> Aarons would be a good start to the backline rebuild
Sounds like we're keen to hold Dier & sell Sanchez

i thought Bale's contract is done at seasons end and he goes where he wants?

We have an option of year 2 on the same terms or he goes back to Madrid.

He is under contract to them for another year.
 
And they'll engage with the THST only if the Trust doesn't discuss ENIC or the Board.

Levy and Uncle Joe want to have their cake and gorge on it too. I hope they both farking choke.
Not at all.

The trust has requested that the executive board be sacked/resign before they meet with the club, and will not until that occurs. When you read the info on ESL it shows that the clubs involved were so at the behest of their owners and in most cases the board didn’t know or had members against it.

So I don’t think requesting they stand aside is the right course of action, as it stands news reporting on ESL has been vague, mentions clubs boards either not agreeing or being privy to developments but doesn’t list specifically whom. So without that information how can our supporters trust make an informed decision they must go? And if they go but we have the same owners that’s deck chairs on the titanic sort of stuff surely. All the while this insistence that they won’t have dialogue with the club until these demands are met they are wasting opportunities to liaise with the club on the protest or £60 tuckets for Villa etc, so other issues go by unquestioned.

tl;dr at present there is no doubt Levy and Lewis were privy to ESL discussions, whether the board was privy or approved of proceedings is not determined.
 

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Yeah the removal of a board or even the granting of a "fan" board spot is pointless because they are cherry picked by the current owners. It would be pure evil genius if Levy appointed himself or a child of his as the fan member of the non-exec board. Now I don't think he will be this blatant but it won't be far from it and it's just a token gesture.

As for the THST asking for the board to be sacked. What for? So a new handpicked board gets appointed? There is no way of change happening at the club under this ownership. Nothing can be achieved by a new board or the THST.

It's gotten to the point where the THST should just start a club at the bottom of the pyramid called 1882 Tottenham and make it a fan run club where the fans actually do have some input in the direction of the club. Tottenham Hotspur FC is just a brand name for ENIC's investment, they use our clubs imagery, history and logo but they aren't representative of us at all.
 
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