biggest bandwagoners - in order

[Dan26]

1.Carlton - biggest bandwagoners
2.Collingwood
3.Richmond
4.Sydney
5.St.Kilda
6.Melbourne
7.West Coast
8.Port Power
9.Brisbane
10.Kangaroos
11.Fremantle
12.Hawthorn
13.Geelong
14.Bulldogs
15.Essendon
16.Adelaide - least bandwagoners

Adelaide have consistently proven to get crowds no matter how they are travelling. Credit to them.

Carlton, are front-runners. Always have been. They have large support, but they were responsible for the LOWEST H&A crowd of 2000 (excludng Roos matches in Sydney) when 12,000 saw the beat Port at Optus. All because the Blue-baggers had lost three in a row. Diddums. Carlton don't have the "cult" following of St.Kilda, Essendon, etc, so their supporters are not as inclined to attend en masse.

Collingwood have also been renowned as bandwagoners. They certainly have the worst reputation. Sure, they get good crowds anyway, but that is because they have a lot of supporters. The increase that this mob get on top of their "core" following when they start to win is phenomenal.

Richmond is in a similar category. Though they have missed the finals for the last 5 years, they have still had great crowds. However, there is no doubting the bandwagon nature, when they really get on a roll.

The fickle nature of Sydneysiders make it easy to put them number 4.

I suppose all clubs can be a bit like this, but the Bulldogs, always seem to get "about the same" type of crowd no matter where they are. Ditto for Geelong and Hawthorn. Essendon always get good crowds too, so I would put these clubs (along with the Crows) towards the bottom end of the bandwagon scale.



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[magpie_joffa]

ANOTHER SHITBAGS POST!!!!!

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[Shinboners]

Originally posted by Dan24:
Carlton don't have the "cult" following of St.Kilda, Essendon, etc, so their supporters are not as inclined to attend en masse.

Essendon have a cult following???

Essendon are hugely popular, very successful, have the largest membership of any of the Victorian clubs, and yeah, they even have a few who will follow the club through thick and thin. But a cult following? I don't think so.

 

[Bloodstained Angel]

reasonable effort Danny

But trying to quantify the subjective will always land you in hot water.

I would take issue with your rating of Saint Kilda though.

How could such a terrible club with such a continually shithouse record still attract so many supporters ?

Saints fans Bandwaggoners ? - I'm really not so sure about that.

 

[Mags]

St Kilda = Bandwagoners? I dont think so either. The saints fans stick with them threw thick and thin.

Y am I not too shocked see Essendon down the bottom of that order in ur list Shitbags?

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[sabre_ac]

How the hell can you put essendon down at 15, easty would be a prime example on this board of many of the essendon supporters. They follow essendon cause its seen as "cool".And what about all the female supporters flocking to get a look in at loylld.
You have got to be kidding

Stick the saints and the bulldogs down the bottom, hardly call there supporters bandwagoners.
While your at it put freo down there.
Threw all the crap they put up with and shocking lack of success along with disapointment time and time again there is no reason for them to have any bandwagoners.

You could just about put the eagles supporters right up there as well.

 

[meg]

Originally posted by Dan24:
1.Carlton - biggest bandwagoners
2.Collingwood
3.Richmond
4.Sydney
5.St.Kilda
6.Melbourne
7.West Coast
8.Port Power
9.Brisbane
10.Kangaroos
11.Fremantle
12.Hawthorn
13.Geelong
14.Bulldogs
15.Essendon
16.Adelaide - least bandwagoners


Why is it not surprising that you have put Essendon 15th?
That's a big stupid.... last year, when Essendon started winning game after game, the Essendon scarves at our school all miracuously came out, and everyone was suddenly their number 1 supporter.
So to put Essendon 15th is pretty dumb if you ask me.

 

[TONY SHAW]

Originally posted by Dan24:

LOTS AND LOTS OF BULLSHIT DELETED

AND THIS IS BASED ON WHOSE ORIGINAL RESEARCH?
PLEASE PROVIDE AN EXPLANATION OF YOUR METHODS ALONG WITH A FULL STATISTICAL ANALYSIS.

OTHERWISE I'LL JUST ASSUMED YOU PULLED THIS OUT OF YOUR ARSE LIKE ALL THE REST OF YOUR POSTS.

 

[CJH]

The credibility of you post went straight out the window with your positioning of Essendon.

I would seriously expect to see them in the top 4 of your list - not the bottom 2.

BTW, the other 3 I would have in the top 4 are Richmond, Carlton and Collingwood.

The support of these clubs is huge which would contain a large latent element.

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[Kate]

Are you serious???? You obviously weren't around in the 80's when Essendon got all their members.. They won a few flags and everyone jumped on the wagon.. - YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE...

As for the Crows not having bandwagon supporters, being someone who travels frequently to SA for matches - the only game the majority want to go to is a Port V Crows game so they can get in fights.. Last year when the crows didn't do so well, their crowds dropped signifigantly.

 

[FIGJAM]

How are Collingwood bandwagoners?

No matter how we are performing, it is always hard to get a seat. And it's not 'cause the of the opposition supporters either! We are always a force.

Who were the top three teams with the highest attendance of the Victorian clubs? I think the Pies were second only to Essendon. WHEN you guys finish last/second last, I will put both of my testicles that Essendon won't even register in the top four!

Out of the Victorian clubs we have the least of the bandwagoners. Interstate clubs have high crowd figures, as it is often impossible to get into the games without a membership. Plus their catchment area consists of 500,000 to 1,000,000 people. West Coast can't even sell their memberships this year 'cause they are in for a rough time.

Out of the Melbourne clubs, if Richmond can deliver the promise they have displayed, you watch the swell in membership and crowd attendances!

Consider some evidence before making embarrasing statements dan24!

 

[TONY SHAW]

Originally posted by Kate:
Are you serious???? You obviously weren't around in the 80's when Essendon got all their members.. They won a few flags and everyone jumped on the wagon.. - YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE...

As for the Crows not having bandwagon supporters, being someone who travels frequently to SA for matches - the only game the majority want to go to is a Port V Crows game so they can get in fights.. Last year when the crows didn't do so well, their crowds dropped signifigantly.

DON'T CONFUSE SHITBAGS WITH THE FACTS OTHERWISE YOU'LL BE LABELLED A THUG, MORON, ETC. ETC.

NEW THREAD SAME OLD BULLSHIT FROM SHITBAGS AND THE OTHER LOUDMOUTH ESSENDON DICKHEADS.

WIN A MATCH ALREADY!!!! YOU FARKEN LOSERS HAHAHAHA

 

[Danny Chook Fan Club]

The Bombers have the second least amount of band-wagoners in the league do they? I'd love to see the statistical evidence of that one.

Given there is none, I'll try and give an unbiased view of proceedings. I say unbiased because Daniel's is clearly biased - his mob of teenie-boppers would be top 3 certainties on most people's lists, while my lot have plenty of downhill skiers and he's got them twelfth. Not likely!

1 - Sydney: Simply the most fickle fans in the league.

2 - West Coast: Is there a funnier sight in football than the hordes streaming out of Subiaco when the Eagles are getting done?

3 - Essendon: No doubt they have a large support base, but the hardcore is significantly smaller than the Collingwood or Richmond hardcore. Some of the comments I hear around me at Essendon games by so-called "fans" of the Bombers are beyond belief.

4 - Carlton: Most of Daniel's points about Carlton are fairly valid. They're like Essendon supporters, but they like techno music rather than teeny pop.

5 - Richmond: The reputation preceeds them, and it's a little less justified than in the past, but there's no other team that can match the explosion of support that the Tigers can generate when they've strung a few together.

6 - Melbourne: Is it ski season yet Lachlan? Good show, tally-ho! It always amuses me when the smokers' stand is half empty in the depth of winter. You get in for free for goodness sake!

7 - Brisbane: A little like Sydney, but have a stronger base of true support than their southern cousins. It will be interesting to monitor Gabba crowds when the Lions have a few poor years.

8 - Hawthorn: You don't have a membership jump from 12,500 to 27,000 in one year (1996 to 1997) if there's not a fair amount of fair weather support out there. Can generate an "event" crowd with the best of them (eg. last game at Waverley), and we've got our share of Backstreet Boy support at the moment as well.

9 - Fremantle: This is a tough call, but they've never been much good so we don't know how many will turn up if they start winning regularly. I think they're best possie is in the middle of the pack.

10 - Adelaide: No huge drop-off these past two years. They'll fill Footy Park most weeks, regardless of who they play.

11 - St Kilda: They'd be higher if their fans had more opportunity to come out of the woodwork. There's a hell of a lot of them.

12 - Geelong: A town whose mood is set by the team that plays there. Still don't get enough members for a captive market though, so there's a few woodworkers down Sleepy Hollow way.

13 - Collingwood: Can't believe Daniel had them at 2 - I can only think it was an attempted stir. Sure, they wreck the curve in idiot:normal ratio, but they stick like no other "big" club in Melbourne.

14 - Port Adelaide: Supporters are very much like Collingwood's, ie. feral but loyal.

15 - Kangaroos: They'd have to have more members and higher attendances in this day and age after the success they had - imagine if it was the Saints. You can only conclude that there's not many Roos fans, and a large proportion of them are hardcore.

16 - Western Bulldogs: Ditto.

 

[TigerTank]

Turn your list upside and you'd be closer to the mark Damn24.

Essendon have a "cult following"? What the hell would you know about "cult followings"?

Next you'll be telling me that Human Nature or Hyundai Excels have cult followings. And McDonalds, by your bizarre sense of logic, has a massive "cult following".

You dense gimboid!

I have barracked for the Tigers through thick and thin. Joffa has barracked for the Magpies through thick and thin. You have not barracked for Essendon through THIN, so don't you DARE call me a bandwagoneer.

I have seen nothing in 26 years of following Richmond (I was supporting them when you were nothing more than a sperm with bugger-all potential, but reasonable directional sense) that would suggest Essendon supporters would stick with their team in the hard times any better than Carlton, Collingwood, Richmond or any other supporters.

Are you so confident of your "theory"? I dare you to go to the standing room area behind the goals, under the Great Southern Stand during a Richmond home game, and yell your theory at the top of your voice. I look forward to seeing your obituary - "Idiot Killed Provoking Fanatical Felines".

You are a Dead-Set goose, with about as much appreciation for the culture of AFL football as a Siberian hamster breeder.

On second thoughts, if there is such thing as a Siberian hamster breeder, he would know a damn side more about the AFL than a twit that would nominate Crows fans as the least likely to have jumped on a bandwagon.


PS - It's good to be back.

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TT - Obligatory bad-tempered Richmond supporter (and getting more bad-tempered over time)

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[CJH]

Originally posted by Danny Chook Fan Club:

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5 - Richmond: The reputation preceeds them, and it's a little less justified than in the past, but there's no other team that can match the explosion of support that the Tigers can generate when they've strung a few together...

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Danny, we are gonna have a huge year this year - wait until about round 6 - 8 and see all the bandwagon comments about Richmond! It will be deafening!

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[Shinboners]

Originally posted by TONY SHAW:
DON'T CONFUSE SHITBAGS WITH THE FACTS OTHERWISE YOU'LL BE LABELLED A THUG, MORON, ETC. ETC.

Tony, can you remind me.....does the abuse come before or after he whinges that we're all just against him and that we've deliberately misinterpreted what he's posted?

 

[Mr Ripper]

Originally posted by TigerTank:
You are a Dead-Set goose, with about as much appreciation for the culture of AFL football as a Siberian hamster breeder.

Filigree Siberian hamster?

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Olmy knows best

 

[TONY SHAW]

Originally posted by Shinboners:
Tony, can you remind me.....does the abuse come before or after he whinges that we're all just against him and that we've deliberately misinterpreted what he's posted?

SHITBAGS'S MOOD IS AS COMPLEX AND QUIRKY AS HIS "ANALYSES" AND DEPENDS ON MANY FACTORS INCLUDING WHAT TIME OF THE MONTH IT IS FOR HIM AND WHETHER HIS MUM LET HIM STAY IN BED WITH HER THE NIGHT BEFORE OR MADE HIM SLEEP ON THE FLOOR WITH THE DOG.

 

[Blues2001]

Originally posted by Dan24:
1.Carlton - biggest bandwagoners
2.Collingwood
3.Richmond
4.Sydney
5.St.Kilda
6.Melbourne
7.West Coast
8.Port Power
9.Brisbane
10.Kangaroos
11.Fremantle
12.Hawthorn
13.Geelong
14.Bulldogs
15.Essendon
16.Adelaide - least bandwagoners

(edited 08 March 2001).]

What a load of crap. Essendon'synch 15th? What a joke. The definition of McEssendon is bandwagon. You have so many new supporters, with absolutely no knowledge of the game, but love the smell of success.

How on earth are Carlton bandwagoners? Our membership just seems to grow at about the average AFL rate of growth no matter what happened the previous year. If our crowds sometimes look lower than they should be then its usually because playing at a suburban ground cuts the crowd a lot more than if you play at a ground such as Colonial or the MCG.

Besides Dan, you really have to check your facts. You seem to always base this Carlton bandwagon element on that one bloody game against Port. The crowd for that game was almost 17,000, which was not even close to the lowest crowd of the year. It was not 12,000 like you say. It was higher than mathces even between two Melbourne teams, at a bigger stadium - Colonial. These matches included North v St Kilda and Melbourne v St Kilda. We were playing an unglamourous interstater. So we had lost 3 in a row! Big deal. Crowds for EVERY club drop off when you lose, bandwagon or no bandwagon.

I don't believe Collingwood are bandwagon either. No way. Always get good support. If any club is its your club, plus probably Melbourne - last year when they got on a roll you'd find people who had previously stated their lack of interest in footy all of a sudden start going on about their team 'Melbourne'.

 

[Anton Grbac]

Question: Am i a 'bandwagoner'?
I have been attending Essendon games since the late '70's (from the age of 8) I have been an adult member since 1986.

 

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by Wally:
Question: Am i a 'bandwagoner'?
I have been attending Essendon games since the late '70's (from the age of 8) I have been an adult member since 1986.

SABRE AC has no idea ! He claims I am a bandwagoner ! I have been a member since 1991 and have been to EVERY game here at footy park since then despite being caned more often than not. I have travelled to Melbourne often using my own money and have seen good years and bad years such as 1997,before you claim I am a bandwagoner how about you learn the facts you idiot


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Essendon - The greatest club with the greatest coach in the league ! Carlton- absolute hypocrites who accuse others of being cheats only for it to be found later that carlton are the "serial salary cap breachers" as quoted by our president, haha

 

[elt]

Originally posted by Dan24:
1.Carlton - biggest bandwagoners

Carlton, are front-runners. Always have been. They have large support, but they were responsible for the LOWEST H&A crowd of 2000 (excludng Roos matches in Sydney) when 12,000 saw the beat Port at Optus. All because the Blue-baggers had lost three in a row.

Interested parties may want to check out this addy :
http://www.afl.com.au/results/matchresults_10496.htm

Seems official attendance was actually 16,511 for this game. Another of Dan's "facts".

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The early bird gets the worm. But the second mouse gets the cheese.

 

[Blues2001]

Originally posted by Mr Ripper:
Filigree Siberian hamster?

That's a line from fawlty towers right?

 

[Visro]

Starting a post like this with the problems bigfooty is facing at the moment was a very stupid idea dan. Why dont we all wait a while till things settle down and all the tossers have buggered off, then the serious and intelligent posters can have a proper argument about this.

At this current stage though, to start an topic like this will turn the post into a bitch fight in a matter of minutes.

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[Shinboners]

Originally posted by Wally:
Question: Am i a 'bandwagoner'?
I have been attending Essendon games since the late '70's (from the age of 8) I have been an adult member since 1986.

Well, that depends on whether Dan thinks that myself, Joffa, TigerTank, BSA, Westy Boy, Rooboy, ODNs, Sainter, etc. are bandwagoners as well.

Seriously though, no-one here is having a go at the loyalty of the likes of you, Arch, Sandie, Dutchy...and heck, even Dan24....on your loyalty to Essendon. What we are having a go at are his sweeping statements on which clubs have the most bandwagon jumpers and why. Every club when they become successful (except, maybe....er...North Melbourne) suddenly get an upsurge in interest from previously semi-interested fans. However, Dan is denying that Essendon have a significant number of people that are jumping on the bandwagon.

No-one here is questioning the passion of the Essendon fans here.....and that includes Dan24.....but what people are finding hard to swallow is Dan's views dressed up as the truth. The pathetic thing is that Dan seems to believe it too.