Biggest knobs on the road?

[PowerKat]

I know. That's why I suggested as such.

However, from memory it's any limit less then 90km/h where it doesn't apply

maybe you should read your rulebook

 

[Underdog]

maybe you should read your rulebook

113. Restriction on use of right lane

(2) This regulation applies to a driver driving on a carriageway that has 2 or more marked lanes available exclusively for vehicles travelling in the same direction where —

(a) the speed limit is 90 km/h or more; or

(b) a “keep left unless overtaking” sign applies to that part of the carriageway,

http://www.slp.wa.gov.au/pco/prod/FileStore.nsf/Documents/MRDocument:7406H/$FILE/RoadTrfcCd2000_02-d0-08.html?OpenElement

Well done buddy

 

[fairdinkum]

Yes, us speeding youngns in VR Commodores with personalised plates are a bunch of w***ers.

 

[OneEyedHawk]

Ever considered people might tailgate you because you drive slow - possibly in the right lane?

I don't tailgate, but when I see people do it to others, it's always because someone is blocking the traffic. I'm amazed that so many jump t the defensive rather than ask themselves if they are doing something wrong themselves.

I suspect you are one of those people who frustrates other drivers but is completely unaware. Traffic is slow, but flowing, but some people just drive that little bit slower. The reason they drive slower is because they want this huge gap in front of them and the next car. This means they take off slow and they drive slower than cars in the left lane. Their thinking is often "but you're not going anywhere, you're just going to drive up behind that car in front of me".

Some people just want the traffic to flow and people like (I suspect you), block it up and frustrate people. Keep up with the traffic in peak hour, and keep to the left if you're not overtaking regardless of how fast you're going.

It's not hard.

You're pretty quick on the assumptions, aren't you?

Not everyone that is being tailgated is copping that due to him/her driving too slow. Plenty of f***wits out there, like yourself it seems, just like to sit on people's arse for no good reason (maybe there is a psychological explantation for that?). I usually drive on or just above the speed limit, and often some w***er will sit way too close for no apparent reason. In that event I just slow down, and give them the bird.

 

[HeLMie]

Yes, us speeding youngns in VR Commodores with personalised plates are a bunch of w***ers.

We love to meet at Maccas or any other carpark and compare dick sizes.

Haha, edited for accuracy.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Soccer Mums, this happened a few days ago
Driving out of a shopping complex, the road was busy so i was in a que of 4-5 cars waiting to get out, suddenly i hear a crunch, some lady has reversed...into my car, then she abuses me saying i needed to give her room


17 year old girls, i was in the car with one the other day, cuts off this porche, her reply "i didnt worry, i dont care about this piece of shit, hes going to care for his pride and joy" true words, but still.....

Skylines>>>Commodores, and yes i drive a v6 commodore,

 

[Strike Swiftly]

I know. That's why I suggested as such.

However, from memory it's any limit less then 90km/h where it doesn't apply

In Vic it's 80 km/h.

130.​

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Keeping to the left on a multi-lane road​

(1) This rule applies to a driver driving on a multi-lane road if—
(a) the speed-limit applying to the driver for the length of road where the
driver is driving is over 80 kilometres per hour; or
(b) a​

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keep left unless overtaking sign applies to the length of road where
the driver is driving.​

Note 1​

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Length ​

of road and multi-lane road are defined in the dictionary.​

Note 2​

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Part 3 deals with speed-limits.​

(2) The driver must not drive in the right lane unless—
(a) the driver is turning right, or making a U-turn from the centre of the
road, and is giving a right change of direction signal; or
(b) the driver is overtaking; or
(c) a​

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left lane must turn left sign or left traffic lane arrows apply to any other
lane and the driver is not turning left; or
(d) the driver is required to drive in the right lane under rule 159; or
(e) the driver is avoiding an obstruction; or
(f) the traffic in each other lane is congested; or​

(g) the traffic in every lane is congested

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/363A6DB7-86A0-4411-AD67-D8974A20832D/0/part_11.pdf

 

[Underdog]

In Vic it's 80 km/h.

130.​

​

Keeping to the left on a multi-lane road​

(1) This rule applies to a driver driving on a multi-lane road if—
(a) the speed-limit applying to the driver for the length of road where the
driver is driving is over 80 kilometres per hour; or
(b) a​

​

keep left unless overtaking sign applies to the length of road where
the driver is driving.​

Note 1​

​

Length ​

of road and multi-lane road are defined in the dictionary.​

Note 2​

​

​

Part 3 deals with speed-limits.​

(2) The driver must not drive in the right lane unless—
(a) the driver is turning right, or making a U-turn from the centre of the
road, and is giving a right change of direction signal; or
(b) the driver is overtaking; or
(c) a​

​

left lane must turn left sign or left traffic lane arrows apply to any other
lane and the driver is not turning left; or
(d) the driver is required to drive in the right lane under rule 159; or
(e) the driver is avoiding an obstruction; or
(f) the traffic in each other lane is congested; or​

(g) the traffic in every lane is congested

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/363A6DB7-86A0-4411-AD67-D8974A20832D/0/part_11.pdf

In the absence of 85km/h speed zones, for any roads under 90km/h, this rule doesn't apply.

Exactly as I said

 

[Papa G]

P Platers in Commodores have increasingly come to my attention in this heatwave. Why?, because most normal people stay indoors and avoid going out in this insufferable heat unless they really have to, whereas P plating tools with Commodores have nothing else to do except cruise around being a tool on the road. Because there is less of everyone else on the road, they seem to have taken over the streets.

 

[Strike Swiftly]

In the absence of 85km/h speed zones, for any roads under 90km/h, this rule doesn't apply.

Exactly as I said

It is 80 km/h and over.

A police spokesman said motorists on all multi-lane roads with a speed limit of 80kmh or over were required to keep left unless overtaking, with or without signage to this effect.

http://stgeorge.yourguide.com.au/news/local/news/general/fined-for-slow-driving/456549.aspx

 

[Underdog]

It is 80 km/h and over.

The road rules I and yourself have quoted say otherwise.

The police spokesman was confused or incorrect.

It is OVER 80km/h

(a) the speed limit is 90 km/h or more; or

(a) the speed-limit applying to the driver for the length of road where the
driver is driving is over 80 kilometres per hour; or

 

[Strike Swiftly]

ive done some research with vicroads and ill admit that you are right and i'm wrong. 81 km/h plus.

 

[PowerKat]

Well done buddy

The road rules I and yourself have quoted say otherwise.

The police spokesman was confused or incorrect.

It is OVER 80km/h

Read the 2nd part of the rule, "buddy"

In Vic it's 80 km/h.


130.

Keeping to the left on a multi-lane road​

(1) This rule applies to a driver driving on a multi-lane road if—
(a) the speed-limit applying to the driver for the length of road where the
driver is driving is over 80 kilometres per hour; or
(b) a keep left unless overtaking sign applies to the length of road where
the driver is driving.
Note 1 ​

​

Length ​

of road and multi-lane road are defined in the dictionary.

Note 2 ​

​

Part 3 deals with speed-limits.

(2) The driver must not drive in the right lane unless—
(a) the driver is turning right, or making a U-turn from the centre of the
road, and is giving a right change of direction signal; or
(b) the driver is overtaking; or
(c) a left lane must turn left sign or left traffic lane arrows apply to any other
lane and the driver is not turning left; or
(d) the driver is required to drive in the right lane under rule 159; or
(e) the driver is avoiding an obstruction; or
(f) the traffic in each other lane is congested; or​

(g) the traffic in every lane is congested

(h) the right lane is a special purpose lane in which the
driver, under another provision of the Australian Road
Rules, is permitted to drive; or
(i) there are only 2 marked lanes and the left lane is a slow​

vehicle turn out lane.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/363A6DB7-86A0-4411-AD67-D8974A20832D/0/part_11.pdf
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part 2 doesn't even have a speed limit reference, yet in the main this rule is largely ignored (and I have edited to include the full rule). Note also that the Australian Road Rules apply to the whole nation unless there are specific references in the rules to say otherwise.

Although SS's link is vicroads, the quote is exactly the same in the ARRs (available here)


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Edit: As an aside - I can't recall a multi-lane 80km/h rd without the 'keep left unless overtaking sign'. Anyone aware of any?

 

[Underdog]

Read the 2nd part of the rule, "buddy"

part 2 doesn't even have a speed limit reference, yet in the main this rule is largely ignored (and I have edited to include the full rule). Note also that the Australian Road Rules apply to the whole nation unless there are specific references in the rules to say otherwise.

Part 2 is irrelevant as the rule is already inapplicable. Part 2 discusses when a person should keep left where the rule applies

 

[Strike Swiftly]

part two relates to a&b above. it has no speed reference because some signed areas are below 80 km/h.

sorry to hijack the thread. back on topic.

another batch of knobs are those that fail to check mirrors when changing lanes. how hard is it? i ride my motorcycle to work every day, roughly a 120 kilometre round trip. once a week im nearly taken out by knobs who fail to check their mirrors. i ride a big bike, there is no excuse for it.

 

[PowerKat]

Part 2 is irrelevant as the rule is already inapplicable. Part 2 discusses when a person should keep left where the rule applies

it applies on a multi-lane road and is not irrelevant

 

[PowerKat]

part 3 also has no relevance to speed limit - it applies to multi lane roads

(3) A keep left unless overtaking sign on a multi-lane road
applies to the length of road beginning at the sign and
ending at the nearest of the following:
(a) an end keep left unless overtaking sign on the road;
(b) a traffic sign or road marking on the road that indicates
that the road is no longer a multi-lane road;
(c) if the road ends at a T–intersection or dead end — the
end of the road.

 

[Underdog]

it applies on a multi-lane road and is not irrelevant

Part 2 only applies on a multi-lane road with a speed limit over 80.

By your theory, going by part 3 you can sit in the right lane as much as you like on a freeway or highway as long as there is no keep left sign since there is no mention of overtaking or turning. Correct?

 

[quickstraw]

I'd suggest road laws on safe following distances may suggest otherwise. I think it's far safer for someone to sit back a bit then be up a cars arse and slam on their brakes every time traffic stalls.

That went over your head, sir.

That alone is simply not the law. I can drive as much as I want in the right lane at any speed under the limit at times and be driving within the law.

Perhaps you should read your rulebook.

Actually sir, you are incorrect. In many states the rules on motorways are to keep left unless overtaking. That means if the motorway is empty and you are sitting in the right lane 1km under the speed limit, you can get booked.

But you're from that backward bogan backwater Perth so not surprised this law has reached you guys yet. Only took you 30 years to consider daylight saving. Last time I checked, your shops are closed Sundays and you still have service station rosters.

 

[quickstraw]

No...a lot of people tailgate because they feel the need to go 85 in a 60.

Yep, and why should someone stop them from doing it if they can drive the same speed in the left lane?

The unwritten rule everywhere in this country (and most other western countries) is to keep left. It's selfish to block traffic. And in a number of states they made it into a law because a lot of people are selfish.

 

[quickstraw]

You're pretty quick on the assumptions, aren't you?

Yep, and I bet I'm right. Apart from the aggro tosser participating in road rage, I rarely see people tailgate unless they are giving the driver in front the hint to move over.

Not everyone that is being tailgated is copping that due to him/her driving too slow.

Never said they were, just said I suspect Tess was (if her persona is anything to go by)

Plenty of f***wits out there, like yourself it seems, just like to sit on people's arse for no good reason (maybe there is a psychological explantation for that?).

Isee. So it's ok for you to make assumptions, but not me. "Here's your sign".

I usually drive on or just above the speed limit, and often some w***er will sit way too close for no apparent reason.

Could it be because you're in the right lane and that person is hinting for you to move over?

In that event I just slow down, and give them the bird.

So you're saying you act like a spiteful knob on the road? I guess that's what this post is about too, isn't it?

Think of it this way: You're in the right lane doing 85 in 80, driver behind wants to do 90. If you can change lanes or speed up/slow down and move over then you are being selfish for blocking that person. They can hardly phone you up and ask you politely to move over, so they press up behind you to give you the hint.

And what do you do? Act like a spiteful tosswit.

ps tailgating rarely happens except when someone wants the other to move over. I see selfish people like you on the road every day. Just move over and share the road. It's not hard.

 

[quickstraw]

The road rules I and yourself have quoted say otherwise.

The police spokesman was confused or incorrect.

It is OVER 80km/h

Be a man and admit you're wrong and be done with it.

 

[Docker Clint]

Having multiple Aus flags on your car well after Australia Day is a dead giveaway at the moment.

 

[Underdog]

Actually sir, you are incorrect. In many states the rules on motorways are to keep left unless overtaking. That means if the motorway is empty and you are sitting in the right lane 1km under the speed limit, you can get booked.

Your example is correct but I am not incorrect. If the road is congested, I can sit in the right lane all I like and can't be booked. Simple as that. I said "at times" I could drive and not be booked, not all the time. There are circumstances where the rule DOES NOT apply.

Now why don't you learn some comprehension skills before you act like a knob.

Be a man and admit you're wrong and be done with it.

How am I wrong?

The road rules state that keeping left only applies on multi lane roads where the speed limit is above 80km/h. Even then it is a circumstantial application.

 

[quickstraw]

Your example is correct but I am not incorrect. If the road is congested, I can sit in the right lane all I like and can't be booked. Simple as that. I said "at times" I could drive and not be booked, not all the time. There are circumstances where the rule DOES NOT apply.

And your point was?

But rules aside, it's general courtesy and an unwritten rule. Much like esculators - keep to the left if stand, walkers to the right. There's no law about eleavators, but at our cities train stations everyone knows the unwritten rule.

Rule or not, it's selfish sitting in the right lane. If you can do 70 in the left and 70 in the right, then only a selfish person would sit in the right. Left = same speed, let other drivers past. Right = drive same sppeed but block other drivers.

Just keep to the left. It's not hard. No use carting out the rule book and being a knob about it.