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AFC979810 said:
Hard to argue with this. His 2024 was very very impressive.

Part of me is concerned though - over the past few years we have seen young players have a really solid season and then regress - Sholl & Schoenberg in 2021, Berry in 2022, Jones 23.

Also feel like he is so much better suited to playing in the attacking half. Maybe they put him at half back in 2024 for development, but really think he would be a lot more valuable on the Wing / HFF.
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Regression often comes due to players figuring out their game and trying different elements. Some of it would be running patterns, when to go in or stay put of contests etc. So it is common, so common in fact its not just a crows problem, commentators often speak about it.
 
AFC979810 said:
For me he sits in the Andy Otten / Tom Doedee category. Very promising players that had a serious injury, made it back to AFL level but never hit the same heights. Ended up forging careers as reliable AFL footballers.

Milera was building nicely. Played 60 games across his first 4 seasons before the injury bug struck him and he has managed 30 games across the last 5 seasons. Should be a handy depth / role player for us as we push towards a premiership window opening up over the next 2-3 years.
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People are talking as if Milera's career WAS a bust ....the guy will play this season as a 27 YO ....peak career point, and has IMO a good 5 years of footy in front of him
 

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WaynesWorld19 said:
People are talking as if Milera's career WAS a bust ....the guy will play this season as a 27 YO ....peak career point, and has IMO a good 5 years of footy in front of him
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All well and good if you ignore all the career threatening injuries hes had.

Most 27yoa haven't had the amount of majority surgeries he's had to endure.

Its been a bust so far, and if you think there's a high % of it improving from here then I want some of what you're smoking.
 
Mr_Moogle said:
The problem is that it's poor value for money. Not all positions are created equally. You don't need top picks to get a decent half back. That's why that position is often used as dumping ground for people who failed in harder roles.

Can you imagine the outcry on here if we had pick 11 and used it on a HBF? People would be spewing.
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It's been so long since we've had a gun midfield group, that plenty on this board think it's where all good draft picks should go.

We absolutely needed to invest in it (and we have). But we also need to invest in the rest of the ground.

Can you name the last premier without a gun (non-lockdown) defender?
 
Cromulant said:
All well and good if you ignore all the career threatening injuries hes had.

Most 27yoa haven't had the amount of majority surgeries he's had to endure.

Its been a bust so far, and if you think there's a high % of it improving from here then I want some of what you're smoking.
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People won't remember the past injuries if the next 5 years are really productive .....that's just life
 
PeterSalt said:
What .. what is this bad blood you speak of .. what is this paranoia that grips you?

I'm not sure I've done anything?

Good for you though, having a massive whinge about something most of us don't give a rats arse about is incredibly admirable (lol .. it's not)

And thank you .. again .. for telling us how we should think :thumbsu:
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I don’t know, maybe I should bump the PM you sent me.

And you clearly have an exaggeration problem as well as an anger issue, if you think what I posted was a “massive” whinge, it’s no wonder you get angered so easily.
 
PeterSalt said:
What .. what is this bad blood you speak of .. what is this paranoia that grips you?

I'm not sure I've done anything?

Good for you though, having a massive whinge about something most of us don't give a rats arse about is incredibly admirable (lol .. it's not)

And thank you .. again .. for telling us how we should think :thumbsu:
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Geez, you've returned in a bit of a mood. Hope you're ok.
 

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Big Dub said:
It's been so long since we've had a gun midfield group, that plenty on this board think it's where all good draft picks should go.

We absolutely needed to invest in it (and we have). But we also need to invest in the rest of the ground.

Can you name the last premier without a gun (non-lockdown) defender?
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It's been so long because we kept investing good picks into the wrong players. Gallucci, Jones, McHenry and Milera were all midfield busts taken in the first round. If we'd nailed even half of these, we wouldn't have to be investing so much into the midfield right now.

The point isn't that you don't need them, just that you can often get good ones with lesser picks. Coleman was arguably the best HBF going around before he got injured and he was taken at pick 37. Dale taken at pick 45. Redman taken at pick 30. Sinclair, Houston, Saad all rookies. Zorko was a recycled midfielder and ancient.
 
George Kramer said:
I don’t know, maybe I should bump the PM you sent me.

And you clearly have an exaggeration problem as well as an anger issue, if you think what I posted was a “massive” whinge, it’s no wonder you get angered so easily.
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lol .. go ahead and post it

So I apologised via DM that I was angry once

You should try saying "sorry" occasionally, instead of dropping in here and playing the victim and making a campaigner of yourself
 
Mr_Moogle said:
It's been so long because we kept investing good picks into the wrong players. Gallucci, Jones, McHenry and Milera were all midfield busts taken in the first round. If we'd nailed even half of these, we wouldn't have to be investing so much into the midfield right now.

The point isn't that you don't need them, just that you can often get good ones with lesser picks. Coleman was arguably the best HBF going around before he got injured and he was taken at pick 37. Dale taken at pick 45. Redman taken at pick 30. Sinclair, Houston, Saad all rookies. Zorko was a recycled midfielder and ancient.
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Ablett, Fyfe and Neale were also late picks, as were our own Dawson and Soligo. You get good players of all types late, it's just more hit and miss.

A great half back flank is worth more than a good midfielder. Spend the pick on best available. Gallucci (and McAsey) is what happens when you don't.
 

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Big Dub said:
Ablett, Fyfe and Neale were also late picks, as were our own Dawson and Soligo. You get good players of all types late, it's just more hit and miss.
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Ablett was a F/S selection - but your point about the others is valid.
Big Dub said:
A great half back flank is worth more than a good midfielder. Spend the pick on best available. Gallucci (and McAsey) is what happens when you don't.
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Gallucci was a drafting failure, but not a recruitment failure - given that he was selected because the coach overruled the recruitment team.

I'm still not sure who to blame (if anyone) for failing to pick up on McAsey's mental health problems before draft day.
 
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