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Another excellent game from Billy/Peter.I really don’t think we would have won the last three games without him.I know it’s pointless to speculate,but who the hell would have rucked for us in the last theee weeks if he hadn’t been on our list?
100% on the money mate I am certain looking at our other options that would be so,he done a fine job of competing and also dobbing a couple at the same time.
 
Frampton has been really good but Mitchell is a long way in front for that particular title.


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Depends on your definition of recruit of the year.

I think the non achiever from two clubs has been a bigger surprise than a Brownlow medallist.
 

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That might be a tad strong. Had a ripper game, contested really well but they dominated the hitouts.
He had 28 HO with 9 HO to advantage (last I read here somewhere correct me if im wrong), that's a good amount of first use for our mids.

Negated a lot of theirs imo he bet them.

Competed well vs Adelaide but old mate had his measure. Still provided a good contest though.

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If someone else can stand up at full back looking longer term does Frampton make Cox expendable?

Frampton is more mobile and maybe a better pack mark.

A second ruck is traditionally a forward. It’s mcstay/Johnson more likely to make Cox expendable should the selectors decide to do away with the two ruck setup.

So unless frampton forces mcstay out of full forward, I’d say no. He’s our full back.
 
If someone else can stand up at full back looking longer term does Frampton make Cox expendable?

Frampton is more mobile and maybe a better pack mark.

How do people not understand that at 211cm, Big Cox is our best Ruckman.

Billy is the versatile tall that holds up the secondary spot.

It makes Cameron’s position a little horses for courses. But I have faith in Fly and Co. They’ll make the right call.


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So glad Frampton has hopefully swayed the doubters

Not sure why so many supporters look at football so superficially.

"Oh he's been at 2 clubs and struggled to get games at those clubs" ok so? Like, at worst, the current football department has given Collingwood supporters very little reason to doubt them.

As I had said back when we recruited him, he doesn't need to be a superstar, he just needs to be a semi-capable tall backman, which he more than is. He's been fantastic for us.
 
Doubt Billy could last a season in the ruck. Like him back again when our fulltimers return as the season goes on.

He doesn't need to last the season in the ruck

Just 2-3 more weeks. Max. Until Darcy Cameron returns basically.

But depending on the team we play, maybe not even that long.

Sydney and GWS really only have one tall forward to worry about, so he can play second ruck/forward the next couple of weeks. Carlton have the 2 talls but Darcy might be back by then. Even if he's not, we have Kreuger and Begg there as back up if required.

But honestly Darcy Cameron could be back by Carlton.
 
He doesn't need to last the season in the ruck

Just 2-3 more weeks. Max. Until Darcy Cameron returns basically.

But depending on the team we play, maybe not even that long.

Sydney and GWS really only have one tall forward to worry about, so he can play second ruck/forward the next couple of weeks. Carlton have the 2 talls but Darcy might be back by then. Even if he's not, we have Kreuger and Begg there as back up if required.

But honestly Darcy Cameron could be back by Carlton.
Yep. Was replying generically to posters about whether he remain a ruckman and do away with Coxy.
 

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Yep. Was replying generically to posters about whether he remain a ruckman and do away with Coxy.

Oh, most certainly no

This has been arguably Coxy's best season thus far and he's currently crucial to our structure and the way we play.

But at least we've discovered Billy's versatility in all this and it's a break in case of emergency option that we have should we need it come finals.
 
It's not proper moneyball, and moneyball isn't about just 'fitting a need'.

Moneyball is about identifying players that have been undervalued (mostly due to recruiting bias) but who have characteristic that contribute more to wins than those of the traditional player.
agree.
Its also about picking one stat above all others and using that stat to determine who is undervalued.
In the actual moneyball scenario with Oakland, they used a previously ignored stat.

Unless our club is using a stat to 'value' the players.....its not moneyball in its truest sense.
 
You didn't get the joke Ronnie.

i think he needs to know the rules. The first rule of whipping Club is: you do not talk about whipping Club. The second rule of whipping Club is: you DO NOT talk about whipping Club. Third rule of whipping Club, someone yells repent, goes limp, taps out, the whip is doubled.
 
Frampton has been a revelation but where to now. I assume with Cox back, Frampton goes to defense but still fills a 2nd ruck role. What about when Cameron returns? Is it possible we will be better off with 1 of Cox/Cameron rucking, Frampton 2nd & McStay in the side? I don't think I have seen the 2nd position played out of defense.
 
Frampton has been a revelation but where to now. I assume with Cox back, Frampton goes to defense but still fills a 2nd ruck role. What about when Cameron returns? Is it possible we will be better off with 1 of Cox/Cameron rucking, Frampton 2nd & McStay in the side? I don't think I have seen the 2nd position played out of defense.
If a forward can do it I don't see why a defender can't, as long they have an adequate person to cover for him in defence.
 

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i think he needs to know the rules. The first rule of whipping Club is: you do not talk about whipping Club. The second rule of whipping Club is: you DO NOT talk about whipping Club. Third rule of whipping Club, someone yells repent, goes limp, taps out, the whip is doubled.
I'm just glad that Ronnie is finally moving on from his fixation on soy milk and looking for other avenues to whip.
 
i think he needs to know the rules. The first rule of whipping Club is: you do not talk about whipping Club. The second rule of whipping Club is: you DO NOT talk about whipping Club. Third rule of whipping Club, someone yells repent, goes limp, taps out, the whip is doubled.

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Leave me alone I was just having some fun on this beautiful autumn day in Melbourne.


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Frampton has been a revelation but where to now. I assume with Cox back, Frampton goes to defense but still fills a 2nd ruck role. What about when Cameron returns? Is it possible we will be better off with 1 of Cox/Cameron rucking, Frampton 2nd & McStay in the side? I don't think I have seen the 2nd position played out of defense.

That’s for the real brains to decide. I have faith…..


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A man’s gots to knows his limitations….


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