Phantom Draft Bishop's 2017 Draft Thread

[The Grover]

Rayner - 7min 57sec

D.Fogarty - 7min 33sec

 

[giantroo]

Rayner - 7min 57sec

D.Fogarty - 7min 33sec

That's horrible. Even Bonar had a better time.

 

[giantroo]

POTENTIAL No.1 pick Cameron Rayner has returned to running by completing a 2km time trial in front of recruiters on Friday after a knee injury ruled him out of last month's NAB AFL Draft Combine.

Rayner was one of four draft prospects to do the test at Etihad Stadium on Friday, with the Western Jets gun finishing in about 7:57 minutes.

The 18-year-old's aerobic base is considered his main query as the Brisbane Lions strongly consider him for their prized top pick at next week's draft.

To put Rayner's effort in context, the winner of the time trial at last month's national combine, Dylan Moore, completed it in 6:09 while perhaps Rayner's main challenger for the No.1 spot, Andrew Brayshaw, ran it in 6:14 at the combine.

Rayner hasn't played in nearly three months after the Jets' TAC Cup season ended and he nursed a knee injury, so there weren't high expectations among scouts for him to blitz the test on Friday.

A stronger time – recruiters suggested something around the seven-minute mark – could have gone some way to sealing his place at the top of the draft order, but his slower result is unlikely to see Rayner drop down the board as it is a recognised area for improvement for him.

South Australian Darcy Fogarty claimed the best time of the players in the trial, running approximately 7:33 seconds after overcoming a knee injury he underwent surgery on mid-season.

Fogarty is on the radar of North Melbourne, Collingwood, St Kilda and the Western Bulldogs as a top-10 pick despite struggling for form throughout this season.

Callum Coleman-Jones (7:35) and Charlie Constable (7:58) also completed the run ahead of undergoing further tests with club medicos in the afternoon.

 

[Walkingwounded]

Rayner - 7min 57sec

D.Fogarty - 7min 33sec

Gee... not much mid field time for these guys next year!

 

[GoGrows]

wow, very poor time for Constable too

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Charlie Constable (7:58) also completed the run ahead of undergoing further tests with club medicos in the afternoon.

 

[kingKerna4]

Where's the phantom draft bish ????

 

[dougy58]

Wondering what Petracca and Dusty did on comparable testing during they're draft year. That Rayner time is unthinkably bad but if it's in a similar ball park to the above players its no issue.

 

[pulpdriver]

Wondering what Petracca and Dusty did on comparable testing during they're draft year. That Rayner time is unthinkably bad but if it's in a similar ball park to the above players its no issue.

Dusty ran a 14 something beep in his draft year. Petracca ran a 14.12 in his. To this date the best Rayner has shown is an 11.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Dusty ran a 14 something beep in his draft year. Petracca ran a 14.12 in his. To this date the best Rayner has shown is an 11.

If you want a monster mid/forward in this draft Stephenson has a much simpler path to get there.

Filling out Stephenson's frame will be much easier than expanding Rayner's tank.

 

[richoatthedisco]

If you want a monster mid/forward in this draft Stephenson has a much simpler path to get there.

Filling out Stephenson's frame will be much easier than expanding Rayner's tank.

Or just draft Bonar.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Or just draft Bonar.

Bonar needs to work on his tank almost as much as Rayner.

His lack of tank is far more understandable with his injuries and is more likely to reach midfielder level than Rayner's will I suspect.

 

[Camp Reserve Roamer]

Any predictions on where Kane Farrell might go from those in the know?

 

[Walkingwounded]

Bonar needs to work on his tank almost as much as Rayner.

His lack of tank is far more understandable with his injuries and is more likely to reach midfielder level than Rayner's will I suspect.

Do you have Bonar’s Yo-Yo or 2km times?

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Do you have Bonar’s Yo-Yo or 2km times?

https://www.afl*******************/player/aiden-bonar-2/

(afldraftcentral link)

"His endurance results at the National Combine were in the bottom 12 across both the 2km time trial and yo-yo test. Again, it is an improvement which will come with time, but a reason why he is unlikely to play AFL football in the near future."

 

[DaveLister]

If you want a monster mid/forward in this draft Stephenson has a much simpler path to get there.

Filling out Stephenson's frame will be much easier than expanding Rayner's tank.

That's almost certainly incorrect. Strength and conditioning coaches don't let players add more than 3kg of muscle a year, Stephenson is 189cm tall which typically means a peak playing weight between 87 and 92 kg, as he currently weighs 76 we're talking about 4+ years until he's at a decent playing weight.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

That's almost certainly incorrect. Strength and conditioning coaches don't let players add more than 3kg of muscle a year, Stephenson is 189cm tall which typically means a peak playing weight between 87 and 92 kg, as he currently weighs 76 we're talking about 4+ years until he's at a decent playing weight.

90 kg when he hits his prime sounds pretty good to me.

How many years would it take Rayner to get his 2km time to under 6:30? I don't know, I also don't know if he will get to that level.

 

[Toddski]

Where is your phantom draft bishop?

 

[Bishop]

Where is your phantom draft bishop?

It's coming geeezzzzz. Patience my friends. Will upload it shortly

 

[Toddski]

that depends what shortly means!

 

[Bishop]

Any predictions on where Kane Farrell might go from those in the know?

Maybe late/rookie.

 

[Bishop]

Sorry about the delay, but for me considering it's hard to really work out a lot of the picks, I'm not one to speculate incorrectly. But most of the below is off some mail. Some mail is always good, some is incorrect...

Will have some more detailed & updated one next week.

ROUND ONE

1 BL - RAYNER
2 FREM - LDU
3 CARL- DOW
4 NMFC- STEPHENSON (Think this could be Cerra or Fogarty)
5 FRE- BRAYSHAW
6 COLL- CERRA (Pies to take the sliding mid? Or maybe a curveball)
7 STK- D.FOGARTY (Travelled to SA recently, must be on their hit list - Clark??)
8 STK- BONAR (Maybe Murphy)
9 WB- NAUGHTON (Long thought this was a chance, Murphy too in the mix)
10 CARL- COFFIELD (Think this could be Bonar/Clark/Fogarty)
11 GWS- HIGGINS (GWS recruiters love their numbers & Higgs is the best)
12 ADEL- CLARK (Who do the Crows grab if Clark is gone)
13 WCE- ALLEN
14 SYD- MURPHY (long link - Richards maybe if Murphy is gone)
15 BL- L.FOGARTY (Pair up the Western Jets lads)
16 WB- RICHARDS
17 RICH- BRANDER (Best available)

END OF ROUND ONE

18 BL- CONSTABLE
19 GCFC- PETTY (I have zero idea here)

ROUND TWO

20 RICH- LOB
21 WCE- KELLY (Believe GEEL, NM keen)
22 GEEL- TAYLOR
23 NMFC- BAILEY
24 GEEL- MCCARTIN
25 RICH- BALTA
26 WCE- STODDART
27 GWS- SPARGO
28 GWS- LING
29 MELB- O.BAKER
30 CARL- GARNER
31 MELB- HAYES
32 WCE- L.RYAN
33 SYD- HOULAHAN
34 STK- BALLARD
35 GEEL- MIERS
36 MELB- DANIELS
37 WCE- STARCEVICH

*** - Naish & Ballenden bids to come in after 25 at some point.

 

[year of the cat]

Sorry about the delay, but for me considering it's hard to really work out a lot of the picks, I'm not one to speculate incorrectly. But most of the below is off some mail. Some mail is always good, some is incorrect...

Will have some more detailed & updated one next week.

ROUND ONE

1 BL - RAYNER
2 FREM - LDU
3 CARL- DOW
4 NMFC- STEPHENSON (Think this could be Cerra or Fogarty)
5 FRE- BRAYSHAW
6 COLL- CERRA (Pies to take the sliding mid? Or maybe a curveball)
7 STK- D.FOGARTY (Travelled to SA recently, must be on their hit list - Clark??)
8 STK- BONAR (Maybe Murphy)
9 WB- NAUGHTON (Long thought this was a chance, Murphy too in the mix)
10 CARL- COFFIELD (Think this could be Bonar/Clark/Fogarty)
11 GWS- HIGGINS (GWS recruiters love their numbers & Higgs is the best)
12 ADEL- CLARK (Who do the Crows grab if Clark is gone)
13 WCE- ALLEN
14 SYD- MURPHY (long link - Richards maybe if Murphy is gone)
15 BL- L.FOGARTY (Pair up the Western Jets lads)
16 WB- RICHARDS
17 RICH- BRANDER (Best available)

END OF ROUND ONE

18 BL- CONSTABLE
19 GCFC- PETTY (I have zero idea here)

ROUND TWO

20 RICH- LOB
21 WCE- KELLY (Believe GEEL, NM keen)
22 GEEL- TAYLOR
23 NMFC- BAILEY
24 GEEL- MCCARTIN
25 RICH- BALTA
26 WCE- STODDART
27 GWS- SPARGO
28 GWS- LING
29 MELB- O.BAKER
30 CARL- GARNER
31 MELB- HAYES
32 WCE- L.RYAN
33 SYD- HOULAHAN
34 STK- BALLARD
35 GEEL- MCCARTIN
36 MELB- DANIELS
37 WCE- STARCEVICH

Great stuff but you have Geelong taking McCartin at 24 and at 35.

 

[Wrenny]

Sorry about the delay, but for me considering it's hard to really work out a lot of the picks, I'm not one to speculate incorrectly. But most of the below is off some mail. Some mail is always good, some is incorrect...

Will have some more detailed & updated one next week.

ROUND ONE

1 BL - RAYNER
2 FREM - LDU
3 CARL- DOW
4 NMFC- STEPHENSON (Think this could be Cerra or Fogarty)
5 FRE- BRAYSHAW
6 COLL- CERRA (Pies to take the sliding mid? Or maybe a curveball)
7 STK- D.FOGARTY (Travelled to SA recently, must be on their hit list - Clark??)
8 STK- BONAR (Maybe Murphy)
9 WB- NAUGHTON (Long thought this was a chance, Murphy too in the mix)
10 CARL- COFFIELD (Think this could be Bonar/Clark/Fogarty)
11 GWS- HIGGINS (GWS recruiters love their numbers & Higgs is the best)
12 ADEL- CLARK (Who do the Crows grab if Clark is gone)
13 WCE- ALLEN
14 SYD- MURPHY (long link - Richards maybe if Murphy is gone)
15 BL- L.FOGARTY (Pair up the Western Jets lads)
16 WB- RICHARDS
17 RICH- BRANDER (Best available)

END OF ROUND ONE

18 BL- CONSTABLE
19 GCFC- PETTY (I have zero idea here)

ROUND TWO

20 RICH- LOB
21 WCE- KELLY (Believe GEEL, NM keen)
22 GEEL- TAYLOR
23 NMFC- BAILEY
24 GEEL- MCCARTIN
25 RICH- BALTA
26 WCE- STODDART
27 GWS- SPARGO
28 GWS- LING
29 MELB- O.BAKER
30 CARL- GARNER
31 MELB- HAYES
32 WCE- L.RYAN
33 SYD- HOULAHAN
34 STK- BALLARD
35 GEEL- MCCARTIN
36 MELB- DANIELS
37 WCE- STARCEVICH

Brander, LOB & Balta and then a bid on Naish matched with our later picks. Done

 

[Bishop]

Great stuff but you have Geelong taking McCartin at 24 and at 35.

Good spot, swapped a few things around & forgot about it. Should have Miers there.