Hey mate do you have a link to your most recent phantom draft? Last updated on 1st post is 2 months old
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Hey mate do you have a link to your most recent phantom draft? Last updated on 1st post is 2 months old
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Not fully sold on it - but a few sources still think Brander is right in the mix & possibly Naughton.
Hype growing - Bonar right in the top 10 mix.
Next 24 hours mate. Watch this space!
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Another Pearce fan here. I reckon he's a beauty.
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Pearce is definitely promising.
I think the issue is that he has shown the most of any young KPP at Freo for a decade. So there will be a bit of over-rating as a consequence.
I think the issue is that he has shown the most of any young KPP at Freo for a decade. So there will be a bit of over-rating as a consequence.
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I'm a big fan of Constable at 13, think his game would assist getting the ball out to the likes of Shuey and Venders.
Also, do you see any talls going in the top 10? I'd be surprised if Freo goes a tall with pick 5..
Also, do you see any talls going in the top 10? I'd be surprised if Freo goes a tall with pick 5..
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This is based off gut feel/inside info/guess work -- it's not an exact science. Happy to justify selection etc.
Have wipped up 'Others" in about 5 minutes due to work commitments. If there's a spelling/grammar error, apologies!
Pick 1: Brisbane Lions: Luke Davies-Uniacke
Others: Paddy Dow seems like the only other contender for the No.1 pick, with everything I hear suggesting Rayner isn't the Lions no.1 (he isn't the consensus No.1 around the place either)
Pick 2: Fremantle: Adam Cerra
Others: Freo have liked Cerra for a long time and I thought Pick 5 they'd consider him, but now may grab him at 2. Andrew Brayshaw another they've watched and liked throughout the year. Too early to consider Brander/Naughton. Already have a lot of Rayner 'types' - Dow could be considered too.
Pick 3: Carlton: Paddy Dow
Others: Picking a 'full-time' midfielder might see them grab Dow or LDU/Cerra if available. Darcy Fogarty another name that doesn't go away - but they might hope that he gets past North at 4 & to their next Pick at 10. Andrew Brayshaw would also be a candidate.
Pick 4: North Melbourne: Cam Rayner
Others: Have had multiple people mention to me over the last 96 hours that North are fans of Fogarty - but he's not someone I'd take this early. X-Factor Rayner should appeal to build their future around, Stephenson's strong 2nd 1/2 to the year might see him considered too.
Pick 5: Fremantle: Andrew Brayshaw
Others: Some people close to Brander continue to suggest that Freo have been right into them - some in the know say Naughton is another they might take, others say he isn't going to be considered. Brayshaw seems the best fit here.
Pick 6: Collingwood: Nicholas Coffield
Others: They might consider Naughton as a tall defender - but Coffield makes sense here as the best available. Aiden Bonar's strong 2nd half to the year will make him appeal heavily. They were the first club to speak to Nathan Murphy earlier in the year, but it's too early for him.
Pick 7: St Kilda: Jaidyn Stephenson
Others: Best available here - Saints will grab a slider if a tall goes above them.
Pick 8: St Kilda: Aiden Bonar
Others: Best available here - Saints will grab a slider if a tall goes above them but couldn't see Bonar being overlooked. Might look at Dandenong Stingrays teammate Hunter Clark. Saints were keen to add another KPD - but they may wait til next year after grabbing Logan Austin in trade week.
Pick 9: Western Bulldogs: Aaron Naughton
Others: Hands down the hardest pick inside the top 10 - who do they take? They've liked Nathan Murphy, but could hope he gets later. Fogarty would have to be a chance too. Small forward like Jack Higgins another.
Pick 10: Carlton: Darcy Fogarty
Others: Charlie Constable is one that SOS would take, while some sources say this is the furthest Bonar will get with the Blues unlikely to let him get past.
Pick 11: GWS: Jack Higgins
Others: Everyone linking them with Higgins makes me worried that this pick might not be as easy as it seems, especially when they could've grabbed Ainsworth last year and took Taranto. Watch this space with GWS.
Pick 12: Adelaide: Hunter Clark
Others: Best available, would grab D.Fogarty surely if he gets through.
Pick 13: WCE: Oscar Allen
Others: They need mids - but there isn't a suitable option here. Allen next best player on the board and a WA prospect. Clark would fit the bill if he slides. Constable's running in WA might be an issue - but he could be a project midfielder if they can get him up to speed.
Pick 14: Sydney: Nathan Murphy
Others: Seems the best fit here for the Swans - can play at either end. Constable another candidate.
Pick 15: Brisbane: Charlie Constable
Others: Best available here - but the fear could be that he is gone before this pick & it'd be very hard to see who the Lions grab at Pick 15. They also have Pick 18 - might look to take an outside mid or add some speed such as Petruccelle or Lochie O'Brien. Unlikely to take a tall with Ballenden's bid coming in the 20s.
Pick 16: Western Bulldogs: Ed Richards
Others: Murphy will be there man if the Swans don't take him. Could they take Gryan Miers this early? Richards' speed will appeal, as could Jack Petruccelle. Good chance to bid on Naish.
Pick 17: Richmond: Jarrod Brander
Others: Best fit to grab a tall. If Oscar Allen gets here that'd make sense - think Sam Hayes will be grabbed at their next pick, but he has a lot of work to be done on his running. Naish bid could come at Pick 16 - otherwise they'll be able to use Pick 20 as well. Lot of talk Richmond like Noah Balta too.
This is based off gut feel/inside info/guess work -- it's not an exact science. Happy to justify selection etc.
Have wipped up 'Others" in about 5 minutes due to work commitments. If there's a spelling/grammar error, apologies!
Pick 1: Brisbane Lions: Luke Davies-Uniacke
Others: Paddy Dow seems like the only other contender for the No.1 pick, with everything I hear suggesting Rayner isn't the Lions no.1 (he isn't the consensus No.1 around the place either)
Pick 2: Fremantle: Adam Cerra
Others: Freo have liked Cerra for a long time and I thought Pick 5 they'd consider him, but now may grab him at 2. Andrew Brayshaw another they've watched and liked throughout the year. Too early to consider Brander/Naughton. Already have a lot of Rayner 'types' - Dow could be considered too.
Pick 3: Carlton: Paddy Dow
Others: Picking a 'full-time' midfielder might see them grab Dow or LDU/Cerra if available. Darcy Fogarty another name that doesn't go away - but they might hope that he gets past North at 4 & to their next Pick at 10. Andrew Brayshaw would also be a candidate.
Pick 4: North Melbourne: Cam Rayner
Others: Have had multiple people mention to me over the last 96 hours that North are fans of Fogarty - but he's not someone I'd take this early. X-Factor Rayner should appeal to build their future around, Stephenson's strong 2nd 1/2 to the year might see him considered too.
Pick 5: Fremantle: Andrew Brayshaw
Others: Some people close to Brander continue to suggest that Freo have been right into them - some in the know say Naughton is another they might take, others say he isn't going to be considered. Brayshaw seems the best fit here.
Pick 6: Collingwood: Nicholas Coffield
Others: They might consider Naughton as a tall defender - but Coffield makes sense here as the best available. Aiden Bonar's strong 2nd half to the year will make him appeal heavily. They were the first club to speak to Nathan Murphy earlier in the year, but it's too early for him.
Pick 7: St Kilda: Jaidyn Stephenson
Others: Best available here - Saints will grab a slider if a tall goes above them.
Pick 8: St Kilda: Aiden Bonar
Others: Best available here - Saints will grab a slider if a tall goes above them but couldn't see Bonar being overlooked. Might look at Dandenong Stingrays teammate Hunter Clark. Saints were keen to add another KPD - but they may wait til next year after grabbing Logan Austin in trade week.
Pick 9: Western Bulldogs: Aaron Naughton
Others: Hands down the hardest pick inside the top 10 - who do they take? They've liked Nathan Murphy, but could hope he gets later. Fogarty would have to be a chance too. Small forward like Jack Higgins another.
Pick 10: Carlton: Darcy Fogarty
Others: Charlie Constable is one that SOS would take, while some sources say this is the furthest Bonar will get with the Blues unlikely to let him get past.
Pick 11: GWS: Jack Higgins
Others: Everyone linking them with Higgins makes me worried that this pick might not be as easy as it seems, especially when they could've grabbed Ainsworth last year and took Taranto. Watch this space with GWS.
Pick 12: Adelaide: Hunter Clark
Others: Best available, would grab D.Fogarty surely if he gets through.
Pick 13: WCE: Oscar Allen
Others: They need mids - but there isn't a suitable option here. Allen next best player on the board and a WA prospect. Clark would fit the bill if he slides. Constable's running in WA might be an issue - but he could be a project midfielder if they can get him up to speed.
Pick 14: Sydney: Nathan Murphy
Others: Seems the best fit here for the Swans - can play at either end. Constable another candidate.
Pick 15: Brisbane: Charlie Constable
Others: Best available here - but the fear could be that he is gone before this pick & it'd be very hard to see who the Lions grab at Pick 15. They also have Pick 18 - might look to take an outside mid or add some speed such as Petruccelle or Lochie O'Brien. Unlikely to take a tall with Ballenden's bid coming in the 20s.
Pick 16: Western Bulldogs: Ed Richards
Others: Murphy will be there man if the Swans don't take him. Could they take Gryan Miers this early? Richards' speed will appeal, as could Jack Petruccelle. Good chance to bid on Naish.
Pick 17: Richmond: Jarrod Brander
Others: Best fit to grab a tall. If Oscar Allen gets here that'd make sense - think Sam Hayes will be grabbed at their next pick, but he has a lot of work to be done on his running. Naish bid could come at Pick 16 - otherwise they'll be able to use Pick 20 as well. Lot of talk Richmond like Noah Balta too.
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Hey Bishop - hypothetically, if the Blues opted for Rayner at 3 instead of Dow, do you expect that to impact who they consider at Pick 10 based on player types?
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Great effort Bishop, love your stuff.
Do like Naughton but would be disappointed to pick him to be honest. We've pretty much hit saturation point with key position players and we're going to struggle to develop them all if they can't actually play in their primary position. There's an argument to be made that Naughton could be better than our other options but it's hard to know without putting time into them.
Do like Naughton but would be disappointed to pick him to be honest. We've pretty much hit saturation point with key position players and we're going to struggle to develop them all if they can't actually play in their primary position. There's an argument to be made that Naughton could be better than our other options but it's hard to know without putting time into them.
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Is there a "go home" factor with Darcy Fogarty at all?
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Will end up at your mob in 10 years regardlessYeh. Best you don't pick him
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Mate, if we get Brander at 17, we have clocked the entire year.
These are my only two question mark moments.
Naughton - I think the Doggies have a few developing talls in the likes of Collins in the VFL, might want to give them a chance.
Forgarty - I just wish I could bank on him being something good, I did not like what I watched this season. I know injuries are being thrown around, but it did not look good.
Darling was another example of an undersized gifted tall that drifted on draft day, I could see Allen going in the mid second round more so than this high.
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Yeah Naughton would be a pretty puzzling selection for us I think
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As I said: This is based off gut feel/inside info/guess work -- it's not an exact science
A few changes in 2-9 changes everything - another tall could fit in, another could go out etc : Nothing's locked in. If they grab Rayner, do they take Darcy Fogarty who would probably have a similar career playing forward then *hopefully* moving into the midfield? Probably not.
I think they've got a few in their mind at Pick 10 - but again none or all of them could be there depending on how things go.
Dogs pick was the hardest - if you look at the board - who is still there that they could grab? Fogarty a chance maybe, but I'm not too sure there. Dogs will be hoping that Freo/Pies take a tall, meaning one of the mids (Coffield, Stephenson,Cerra etc) slide through. Otherwise the way I have it they slide past.
Don't think Collins will make it. As I said above - hard to see who they select. Went with best available.
I'm not a fan of Fogarty - but Phantom Draft's are based on what you hear, not what I see.
It's funny - few people I've spoken to think Allen is well in the mix for a top 15 pick. Possibly higher. I've got him rated in the 20s.
A few changes in 2-9 changes everything - another tall could fit in, another could go out etc : Nothing's locked in. If they grab Rayner, do they take Darcy Fogarty who would probably have a similar career playing forward then *hopefully* moving into the midfield? Probably not.
I think they've got a few in their mind at Pick 10 - but again none or all of them could be there depending on how things go.
Dogs pick was the hardest - if you look at the board - who is still there that they could grab? Fogarty a chance maybe, but I'm not too sure there. Dogs will be hoping that Freo/Pies take a tall, meaning one of the mids (Coffield, Stephenson,Cerra etc) slide through. Otherwise the way I have it they slide past.
Don't think Collins will make it. As I said above - hard to see who they select. Went with best available.
I'm not a fan of Fogarty - but Phantom Draft's are based on what you hear, not what I see.
It's funny - few people I've spoken to think Allen is well in the mix for a top 15 pick. Possibly higher. I've got him rated in the 20s.
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Not sure - he's not a player I've spoken to at all this season.
Good chance he's there. Hard to find too many clubs in the teens that could select him.
