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Good team. If you’re going for a balanced side I’d have Pickett (or even P Burgoyne) at HB and move O’Loughlin to HF. Jeffy Farmer to the bench.

Willie Dick also deserves a mention...

He always deserves a mention.
 

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Good team. If you’re going for a balanced side I’d have Pickett (or even P Burgoyne) at HB and move O’Loughlin to HF. Jeffy Farmer to the bench.

Willie Dick also deserves a mention...

He always deserves a mention.
The first line is not a bad suggestion at all....I'll muse on it some more.

As to the rest of your post: This is a tautological free zone.
 
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Stephen Michael > Maurice Rioli >>> Cyril > Ryder.

Jim Krakouer was not bad, but not in Maurice territory, maybe at times Cyril’s.
Maurice only had 6 years at VFL/AFL level, coming over at the peak of his career as a 24 year old....The fact remains that Cyril had a far better career & that they both played in different positions & had different roles.....Cyril could do things that Maurice could only dream about doing, like taking a grab on blokes shoulders for instance.
 

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Maurice only had 6 years at VFL/AFL level, coming over at the peak of his career as a 24 year old....The fact remains that Cyril had a far better career & that they both played in different positions & had different roles.....Cyril could do things that Maurice could only dream about doing, like taking a grab on blokes shoulders for instance.
Maurice was in the guts, the centre. Cyril was a roaming forward.

Playing in the centre, generally means you are the best midfielder.

I saw most of Maurice’s career, I can assure you that he could do things Cyril could only dream off. He was a very tough player and ran for the whole length of the game ( very little interchange in his day ).
 
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Maurice was in the guts, the centre. Cyril was a roaming forward.

Playing in the centre, generally means you are the best midfielder.

I saw most of Maurice’s career, I can assure you that he could do things Cyril could only dream off. He was a very tough player and ran for the whole length of the game ( very little interchange in his day ).
I went to the football every week during the entirety of Maurice's career.....He was a magical footballer with Cyrilesque qualities to be sure.....But he was no Sizzle.
 

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Entirety of Maurice’s career, if you say so.

It is unfortunate when we are making up these lists, and a lot of the candidates are being downgraded because part of their career didn’t take place in the bosom of Victorian football.
 
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Entirety of Maurice’s career, if you say so.

It is unfortunate when we are making up these lists, and a lot of the candidates are being downgraded because part of their career didn’t take place in the bosom of Victorian football.
That's funny.... Maurice 'Magic' Rioli is still the centre-man in this threads greatest Aboriginal team of all time.....I must be missing something.
 

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Would be nice to squeeze Gilbert Mcadam onto the bench. Pickett played nearly twice as many games so hard to swap him or anyone else out.
 
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Good team. If you’re going for a balanced side I’d have Pickett (or even P Burgoyne) at HB and move O’Loughlin to HF. Jeffy Farmer to the bench.
I've taken your suggestions on board.

Mickey O is now on the Half Forward flank, with Pickett taking the other half back flank....Farmer to the bench.
 
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I assume Glen James gets to umpire?
Not after his efforts in the 1984 Grand Final he aint.

Though perhaps Mark Williams will likely be the coach.....Though I'm sure there's probably been a better indigenous coaching candidate in the footballing history annals.
 

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Not after his efforts in the 1984 Grand Final he aint.

Though perhaps Mark Williams will likely be the coach.....Though I'm sure there's probably been a better indigenous coaching candidate in the footballing history annals.
I don't think Mark Williams qualifies, he's not an aboriginal!
 

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Really?....I always assumed he was part indigenous?
Not meant to be. I believe his heritage lies in the Caribbean/Africa.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor...e/news-story/d3160104373d807e83716d8cd455a489

HE'S known as Choco, but the origin of Mark Williams' dark skin - and the family's athletic prowess - has always been a mystery...until now.
Research into the family bloodline has revealed that the Port Adelaide coach and SA's most successful football family are the descendants of an African-Jamaican slave.

Although some thought Choco was southern European, and many other believed he was part Aboriginal, Williams' cousin Christine Gibson has unravelled the family's history, revealing their great, great grandfather, Thomas Alexander Ferguson, was an Afro-Caribbean born 187 years ago - an orphan of the brutal transatlantic slave trade.
 
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So Captain/Coach it'll have to be then.

Dang.....I was so sure that 'Choco' was of indigenous blood.
I thought I they’d go better if Barry just concentrates on playing.

Polly would be the ideal captain, as such a tower of brilliance.
And he’s got a bit irascible in his latter years. Maybe that makes him ideal coach material.

In a way, Kevin Sheedy being such a champion of indigenous players could be the coach?
He’d certainly promote the team too.
 
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I thought I they’d go better if Barry just concentrates on playing.

Polly would be the ideal captain, as such a tower of brilliance.
And he’s got a bit irascible in his latter years. Maybe that makes him ideal coach material.

In a way, Kevin Sheedy being such a champion of indigenous players could be the coach?
He’d certainly promote the team too.
I couldn't put a mad Irishman in charge of my indigenous brothers....Why on earth would I put them through that for?
 

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I thought I they’d go better if Barry just concentrates on playing.

Polly would be the ideal captain, as such a tower of brilliance.
And he’s got a bit irascible in his latter years. Maybe that makes him ideal coach material.

In a way, Kevin Sheedy being such a champion of indigenous players could be the coach?
He’d certainly promote the team too.
Mal Brown has more cred IMHO, he told Sheeds to look & when he ran off at the mouth (Browny) the likes of Nicky Winmar & Stephen Michael came out on his side.
Polly as captain coach.
 

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Mal Brown has more cred IMHO, he told Sheeds to look & when he ran off at the mouth (Browny) the likes of Nicky Winmar & Stephen Michael came out on his side.
Polly as captain coach.
Whatever people claims Sheedy has done for indigenous footy players, Mal the Mouth had already done it years before.

Browny for all his negative points, championed the indigenous folk for many years before the VFL started to pay attention.
 
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