List Mgmt. Blair Hartley Project 2015

[OhDustinMartin]

*get*

 

[Calcium Man]

Hampson or Vickery to Brisbane. They are desperate for big men. Pick up Aish or their first pick. If we hpget their pick, trade it on to GWS and pick up Dylan Shiel.
Or go hell for leather for Dangerfield.

Be careful, we are desperate for a big man behind Maric. If he goes down we are ****ed.

 

[OhDustinMartin]

Be careful, we are desperate for a big man behind Maric. If he goes down we are stuffed.

Good point. But then Stringy McBean might get a go if Griff has to ruck. Although Griffo's looking ominous at CHF at the moment.
I don't trust Vickery with the ruck role though.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

We should have taken luke Lowden 3 years ago .

 

[Calcium Man]

We should have taken luke Lowden 3 years ago .

nope stefan martin

 

[Cevap_Roll]

nope stefan martin

For free to.
LOL Melbourne

 

[richoatthedisco]

If he nominates us, than yes. I think Shiel is more of a line breaking bull of a mid. He is better inside than Aish, but has that rare combination of explosive pace to accommodate his inside ability. Very Judd like, and would compliment us more so, in my not so esteemed opinion.

Agree.

Rather trade our 1st pick - say 15 and Vickery for Brisbane 1st - say 4

4 for Shiel

Brisbane will have pick 1.

Selwood would be a fantastic get. would hope we do due diligence on his troublesome ankle however. would release cotchin.

He's shit.

Hampson or Vickery to Brisbane. They are desperate for big men. Pick up Aish or their first pick. If we hpget their pick, trade it on to GWS and pick up Dylan Shiel.
Or go hell for leather for Dangerfield.

Brisbane has two gun rucks, they don't need Hampson.

 

[Mr Magic]

Shiel is good as a ball getter, but his footskills and kicking aren't all that flash. I'd rather Aish. Damaging with his possessions and is a silky mover. Would just about cap off our midfield nicely, especially when you introduce Corey Ellis. Straight swap for Vickery would be about even. We got another smooth, silky midfielder, Brisbane get a ready made, good to go Key Forward.

Our midfield would not nearly be finished.

Our biggest absence has been a tall classy ruck rover! Has been and remains our biggest problem. If only we picked up Blakely!

 

[Mr Magic]

Shiel, Selwood, Kruezer, Elliot..... GET IT DONE!

How many times does it need to be said?

Collingwood players should never be sought. More often than not they are overrated and Pies are laughing their heads off!

We do not need to chase a small forward anyway, that has been quite clear for some time! Edwards not to mention our mids that rest up there as well as Lloyd and others like even Short says hi!


Krezeur might not be a bad idea via FA. If not too expensive, pending medical check, connection with Cotch hopefully keep both at the club as our window opens

 

[THE_GUN]

I think i might of been the 1st to mention the Vickery/Aish thing

If Blair could convince Aish to come, Wouldnt take alot more than Vickery to get it done i think as Brisbane are desperate for a KPF

Aish,Shiel,Dangerfield -------- WOW what a midfield to Jizz over

 

[Mr Magic]

I think i might of been the 1st to mention the Vickery/Aish thing

If Blair could convince Aish to come, Wouldnt take alot more than Vickery to get it done i think as Brisbane are desperate for a KPF

Aish,Shiel,Dangerfield -------- WOW what a midfield to Jizz over

I can't fit Danger in.

I am targeting Roughead and Bontempelli

In fact I might have better value options than Shiel but the thought of TV going somewhere else. OMG, you have my devoted attention

 

[theflea]

Aish would come cheaper than Shiel owing to the fact he wants out.

While it would be good to get him, we still need another really good inside mid.

 

[theflea]

Rather trade our 1st pick - say 15 and Vickery for Brisbane 1st - say 4

4 for Shiel

Everyone wins

Kruezer won't leave Carlton - they've stuck by him with his injuries. He'll only go if Carlton decide to trade him.

No chance lions will give us 4 for TV.

 

[theflea]

Shiel is good as a ball getter, but his footskills and kicking aren't all that flash. I'd rather Aish. Damaging with his possessions and is a silky mover. Would just about cap off our midfield nicely, especially when you introduce Corey Ellis. Straight swap for Vickery would be about even. We got another smooth, silky midfielder, Brisbane get a ready made, good to go Key Forward.

Imo his kicking is pretty good.

 

[Sol23]

How many times does it need to be said?

Collingwood players should never be sought. More often than not they are overrated and Pies are laughing their heads off!

We do not need to chase a small forward anyway, that has been quite clear for some time! Edwards not to mention our mids that rest up there as well as Lloyd and others like even Short says hi!


Krezeur might not be a bad idea via FA. If not too expensive, pending medical check, connection with Cotch hopefully keep both at the club as our window opens

If you have watched any of our games a QUALITY small forward is what we are clearly crying out for. Your pinning your hopes on Lloyd coming good and bloke who hasnt played a senior game.
We could have had jeff g for nothing and we would have done the job

 

[captain cotch 9]

We need to target a ruck at the end of this year.

 

[Mr Magic]

If you have watched any of our games a QUALITY small forward is what we are clearly crying out for. Your pinning your hopes on Lloyd coming good and bloke who hasnt played a senior game.
We could have had jeff g for nothing and we would have done the job

I watch every game, we do not need a small forward and a small forward is not the missing ingredient

 

[Calcium Man]

If you have watched any of our games a QUALITY small forward is what we are clearly crying out for. Your pinning your hopes on Lloyd coming good and bloke who hasnt played a senior game.
We could have had jeff g for nothing and we would have done the job

While i agree we should have got Garlett, I'm a big Lloyd fan these days.

He needs to work on his defensive stuff but he has kicked 3 goals 4 times in 11 matches, not a bad return. Very clever HF/FP more in the Lecras mould then a genuine crumbing player though.

 

[Mr Magic]

This is what I would do end of year.

Get Kruzeur via FA. Don't pay too much for him but a reasonable amount. Cotch's mate if warranted can get upgraded extend contract later. If he can't get up, he can't get up we chase someone else later. That is okay we have time as still building


Get Touhy for no more than a 3rd rounder or later if part of another trade. Carlton might take TV if it suits us as gives them a target while they dip not affecting their ladder results. If TV does not improve this year move him on

Touhy can also be a benchmark for Conca's performance. If Conca does not shape up he gets moved on. Tuohy allows Vlastuin to play in the guts more

Then I would target Jimmy Bartel as a FA. I know, old as but would be like a Chapman scenario. He supporter RFC in youth like Hunt, an assistant coach might be an opportunity at the end but he gives us experience and the tall ruck rover we missed for the last 20 years temporarily. Bartel might play for a year, lucky to be 2, who knows, we argue premiership tilt and see what happens, might get rejuvenated and his role be specific in the guts etc.. until longer term replacement targeted. Geelong is finished for now so he is probably looking for a sea change/freshener anyway a little bit before retirement. If he gets in a role not requiring high end pace who knows with Jimmy. I never doubt Jimmy if in the right role and environment.

Still not sure if we should get Shiel or not, depends on draft possibilities I guess but I would not pay the world for him as still inconsistent atm. We could get substitutes like Murphy later via FA for example. If we got Shiel would not be the worst option or Hoskin Elliot

The idea getting these players is we actually have a crack at the 2016 premiership. We might not get there but at least we find out who we really got and how we need to improve. If we get the likes of Shiel and or Tuohy it strengthens us mid term anyway as well as Kruzeuer assuming he gets fit.

It gives us the chance to build further later. Eg. we might chase a David Myers in the 2016 FA period or someone better later to give us the longer term ingredients we need if we cannot find them in the draft. But it fixes up a few holes at least to make us genuinely more competitive and balanced on the footy field.

If we did this then we start to get talked about more seriously as premiership possibilities in terms of a list actually capable if stars align of threatening for the premiership. It also gets the team playing proper structured premiership football that sets off radars. This gets the attention of other quality players seeking greener pastures particularly if the youth component is there.

 

[Mr Magic]

While i agree we should have got Garlett, I'm a big Lloyd fan these days.

He needs to work on his defensive stuff but he has kicked 3 goals 4 times in 11 matches, not a bad return. Very clever HF/FP more in the Lecras mould then a genuine crumbing player though.

Dodged such a great bullet not getting Garlett. See those missing goals on the weekend highlighted on the couch. Just have no position for the guy!

Paying up big for unreliability kills premiership prospects

At best Cotch and Dusty can rest there or lids.

We have Edwards and plenty of others like Lloyd and Short etc.. plus who knows whats ready available in the draft. Seems to be plenty of small guys in the 2015 draft to pick from running deep according to some forecasters albeit early

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Kreuzer's on big money at Carlton, he would demand at least 500k to move over. He's not worth that sort of money, especially with his injuries.

 

[DrMike]

Kreuzer's on big money at Carlton, he would demand at least 500k to move over. He's not worth that sort of money, especially with his injuries.

Restricted Free Agent as well

 

[Calcium Man]

Anyone read the trade rumours thread on the draft board?

Seems the WB will be incredible next year with Henderson, WHE and Carlisle all certainties to join them. They are also into shiel

 

[Sol23]

I watch every game, we do not need a small forward and a small forward is not the missing ingredient

Every top team has one
I dont no how you can say that

 

[Sol23]

While i agree we should have got Garlett, I'm a big Lloyd fan these days.

He needs to work on his defensive stuff but he has kicked 3 goals 4 times in 11 matches, not a bad return. Very clever HF/FP more in the Lecras mould then a genuine crumbing player though.

Lloyd is serviceable
We really need that genuine crumber though