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List Mgmt. Blair Hartley Project 2015

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If we sign Rance - Henderson is not a need (and will cost 600k)


Whoever on whichever planet is going to pay 600K for Henderson they can have him. He is not worth within a bulls roar that figure!!!

Unbelievable! Might not be 300K but that would be a closer figure to the mark than 600K!

600K? WOW!!:eek:
 
Whoever on whichever planet is going to pay 600K for Henderson they can have him. He is not worth within a bulls roar that figure!!!

Unbelievable! Might not be 300K but that would be a closer figure to the mark than 600K!

600K? WOW!!:eek:

If he was on the market he would easily get 600k, Henderson is a good player in a sh!t team
I rate him higher than Frawley and Rivers
 

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If he was on the market he would easily get 600k, Henderson is a good player in a sh!t team
I rate him higher than Frawley and Rivers


Never thought Rivers was even in the ballpark.

I cannot see him near Frawley though.

Frawley is not a super star but he is more solid than Henderson IMO.


The trouble with Henderson to me is, he does things well without being a standout forward or defender. With Frawley at least you could put him at FB on most forwards and he would nullify his man. With Henderson you get a bit of this and a bit of that. Henderson is a very poor mans Roughead. Versatility is his friend but he lacks the quality or master of any specific trade for mine.

There is no way I would give Henderson more than 400K. Even that is pushing it. Maybe 370-380K in current wages. So anything of 400K for me is a no
 
Never thought Rivers was even in the ballpark.

I cannot see him near Frawley though.

Frawley is not a super star but he is more solid than Henderson IMO.


The trouble with Henderson to me is, he does things well without being a standout forward or defender. With Frawley at least you could put him at FB on most forwards and he would nullify his man. With Henderson you get a bit of this and a bit of that. Henderson is a very poor mans Roughead. Versatility is his friend but he lacks the quality or master of any specific trade for mine.

Disagree Mr Magic.

Frawley is a kpd that locks down a foward and thats about all he can do and offers nothing els as far as im concerned

Henderson has never been left to make a position his own, mainly because carlton are so crap that every time they are in trouble Henderson is the main Mr Fixit for them

If left to become a KPD he would be fantastic and with support around him could be 1 of the best CHB/FB in the league or if left to be a Foward could kick you 50 goals a year

No Brainer for me - Henderson every day of the week
Brisbane,Geelong,Fremantle,Sydney,West Coast are just a few that would line up to pay $600k
 
Disagree Mr Magic.

Frawley is a kpd that locks down a foward and thats about all he can do and offers nothing els as far as im concerned

Henderson has never been left to make a position his own, mainly because carlton are so crap that every time they are in trouble Henderson is the main Mr Fixit for them

If left to become a KPD he would be fantastic and with support around him could be 1 of the best CHB/FB in the league or if left to be a Foward could kick you 50 goals a year

No Brainer for me - Henderson every day of the week
Brisbane,Geelong,Fremantle,Sydney,West Coast are just a few that would line up to pay $600k


What would I know!

On foxtel they were talking of Howe attracting up to 650K!!!

OM f..... G!!!:eek: that is INSANE!!!


but I think you undersell Frawley. He is a back am but he can pinch hit up forward.

I am confident Henderson is not worth anywhere near 600K When I was talking about him via FA later on as an option I was thinking maybe 400K.

If others happy to pay 600K to Henderson they can be my guest.

If Henderson is worth 600K Roughead is worth more than 1.5 million!

If what you say is true Carlton should trade Henderson to Swans or Freo for a first rounder plus. Probably Freo given Swans are chasing how to get Mills and others
 
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FoxFooty just analysed our main source of scoring...rebounding from the backline..every other coach knows this and has for seasons.
In R1 we scored 56 from rebound and won
In R2 we scored 23 and lost
In R3 we scored 57 and won
In R4 we scored 8 and lost
So why do we rely on just Houli?? I've been saying this for ages, if we want to play rebound footy WE NEED A DANGEROUS REBOUNDING PLAYER.
Batchelor can't play this role either and Rance will soon be forward tagged.
 
FoxFooty just analysed our main source of scoring...rebounding from the backline..every other coach knows this and has for seasons.
In R1 we scored 56 from rebound and won
In R2 we scored 23 and lost
In R3 we scored 57 and won
In R4 we scored 8 and lost
So why do we rely on just Houli?? I've been saying this for ages, if we want to play rebound footy WE NEED A DANGEROUS REBOUNDING PLAYER.
Batchelor can't play this role either and Rance will soon be forward tagged.
hence Yarran.
 

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I think it's very probable that Cotchin, Rance and a number of our younger recruits would be seriously weighing up if they would improve as players in another system - under another coach. List Management is going to get much tougher after nights like these.

Imagine Cotchin in a Hawthorn guernsey. He'd win a Brownlow. I feel sick.
 
We never replaced Tuck, Jackson and King.
This is the reason why we havnt improved and it looks like we are going backwards. The fact we were in active during trade period is ****in pathetic and heads need to roll for this.

Even Hawks, Sydney and Cats look to improve their list every season. Dumbest decision by our football club.

You say we have the money than ****ing spend it.
 
Whatever we do we need to get a midfield beast that loves a contest and would throw himself on a grenade. We need a leader/mid in the mould of Hodge Selwood Jones etc....

Nick Vlastuin?? But we play him as a back pocket ;)
 

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I think it's very probable that Cotchin, Rance and a number of our younger recruits would be seriously weighing up if they would improve as players in another system - under another coach. List Management is going to get much tougher after nights like these.

Imagine Cotchin in a Hawthorn guernsey. He'd win a Brownlow. I feel sick.


No chance, Hawthorn are not far off a full rebuild!!
 
Geez I hope we aren't prioritizing Jamie Elliott too much, cause we should be putting all our effort into Shiel. Can anyone confirm how much sauce there is in this Elliott rumour???

Anyway, we need to throw the kitchen sink at Shiel, he is exactly what we need. RFC if you are reading, get him!!
Throw the other kitchen sink (it's a big house) at Rance cause he is bloody important to our future.

Wouldn't mind Henderson, but if we could get McDonald off Melbourne...doubt it though.

Definitely need another ruckman on the list, possibly even a new no.1.
If Kreuzer could get fit, he might be worth a crack. Good mates with Cotchin too.

ANYONE else on people's radar/wishlist?
Any other midfielders we could look at that won't be crazy expensive?
 
Shiel, Yarran, Elliot, S. Selwood.

Addresses all of our issues. From a playing personnel POV anyway.
 
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