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Psychochook

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Hamstrings need to be strong. Ankles need to be flexible. His ankle issues wouldn't be helping.

If there's a recurring hamstring issue it may not be the strings themselves if they are strong enough to take the load. Pretty complex set up through the joints, tendons, ligaments and muscles...all requiring strength and flexibility in perfect ratio for longevity in the high intensity environment that is the AFL.
 

curnow inferno

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Nic newman stress fracture to the kneecap he ruptured last year. Seeing specialist tomorrow. Out 12-16 weeks
 

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SkyhorseTamer

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The hamstring is more likely due to him being unfit and over stretching in game situations. If anything he needs more high intensity running. Hills. Long sprints to exhaustion. Quick off the mark shirt sprints. He’s needs to get his muscles used to the intensity.
Nah. Hamstrings are 1 2 3 done. Once you've done them a few times they just ping again and again. Can be the fittest bloke on the field but if you've got history you're more likely than anyone else to do a hammy.
 

Jimmae

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Looks pretty care free for someone who would supposedly be out for 4 months with a fractured knee cap. Hope the rumours aren't true, he is so valuable to our team.

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A stress fracture to the knee cap doesn't inherently prevent you from walking.

Nah. Hamstrings are 1 2 3 done. Once you've done them a few times they just ping again and again. Can be the fittest bloke on the field but if you've got history you're more likely than anyone else to do a hammy.
Wouldn't that depend on the level of scarring and how easily you modify your habits to compensate for that?
 

SkyhorseTamer

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A stress fracture to the knee cap doesn't inherently prevent you from walking.


Wouldn't that depend on the level of scarring and how easily you modify your habits to compensate for that?
My main experience with it is fast bowlers who generally are very lucky to be able to bowl fast again after 2 to 3 on the same side. I'm sure there are factors beyond my understanding too. Watched a good mate break down into tears after 1.5 years out after consecutive hammies and extended retraining and mechanics focused work in his second game back and the same hammy again. For whatever reason they seem to be one a weak point.
 

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BoundbyKreuze

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Nah. Hamstrings are 1 2 3 done. Once you've done them a few times they just ping again and again. Can be the fittest bloke on the field but if you've got history you're more likely than anyone else to do a hammy.
When I was young I used to do my hammy all the time. I still play sport and run regularly haven’t done my hammy in 9 years.
 

Ash24

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A stress fracture to the knee cap doesn't inherently prevent you from walking.
Correct, but that wasn't quite my point. If he did in fact fracture his knee yesterday and is seeing a specialist only today, wouldn't we expect him to kind of take it easy before a professional assesses what he's allowed and not allowed to do?
 

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Correct, but that wasn't quite my point. If he did in fact fracture his knee yesterday and is seeing a specialist only today, wouldn't we expect him to kind of take it easy before a professional assesses what he's allowed and not allowed to do?
Or just go watch basketball and go to the specialist tomorrow....no biggun
 

Ash24

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Or just go watch basketball and go to the specialist tomorrow....no biggun
All that I'm saying is if it's a 3-4 month injury like rumoured, I personally would've limited the amount I walk to eliminate any possible further damage before seeing the specialist. I guess the club know better than I do, if the rumour is even true in the first place too.
 

Earls Smother

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Correct, but that wasn't quite my point. If he did in fact fracture his knee yesterday and is seeing a specialist only today, wouldn't we expect him to kind of take it easy before a professional assesses what he's allowed and not allowed to do?
If true, this one smells of mismanagement a little bit.

I was under the impression a ruptured patella is generally a 12 month recovery. He did it in June - 8 months ago. We have Charlie as an example of why not to rush this type of injury. I'm assuming the reattachment creates a weakness (screws like Charlie?) so why is he/we pushing too hard too early?
 

WFGodot

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Injuries are inevitable.

We play a high-intensity, dynamic sport with frequent contact.

The two things that really irk me are how long it takes for our blokes to come back from them and then the propensity to aggravate the original injury. Talk about frustrating. We've been told that we have one of the "best in the business" with Jack Russell but we seem to get it wrong all too often. Rant over.
 

Coops93

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Heard some good news re Charlie...similar to what B70 posted a week or so ago.

A few weeks ago Charlie’s surgeon figured out was the cause of the issue was (it was different to what they previously thought) and is now confident they can manage the issue going forward.

Source is solid but is 3rd hand.
So the change in surgeon has (touch wood) seemingly sorted it?
 

CJMB

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So the change in surgeon has (touch wood) seemingly sorted it?
Certainly sounds like that's the case. Fingers crossed Charlie can get back 1/2 or 2/3 through the H&A season. I still want them to take the slow and cautious approach.... but f*** I'm excited by his potential return... plonked in the goal square doin' his thing, especially now with his clearly bigger upper body/arms.
 

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