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Why is Essendon listed as number 1 on the list from 1897?
Not what we need atm.
We need to smash the rear view mirror until we claim number 17
imo these premierships shouldn't count, its not the evolution of vfl to afl, its the big players from the vfa moving to create the vfl. they are totally different competitions, can't be compared.
No they shouldnt be counted.The VFA was a stand alone and the senior competition in Victoria at the time 1870 to 1896, - it’s logical that they should be counted. You’re not comparing because the VFL wasn’t created till 1897.
Also * are clearly meant to be #2 on the first image as they were second to 16 and also fall behind alphabetically.
Haven't won a final without Sheeds in 40 years!Nor are they closer to 17 (or 23) than we are
I think eventually * will have to hand back the salary cap cheating cup.
Makes us 23
Yes mate ..TrueBoth of their salary cheating cups, you mean, right ?
No they shouldnt be counted.
team broke away from VFA to form the VFL in 1897.
The VFL rebranded itself to AFL and invited other teams to join the already established league
VFA, SANFL and WAFL should not be counted for this reason.
I agree on the Sanfl Wafl and the VFL = AFlSorry don’t agree, the VFL teams from the VFA were the senior teams - and created a senior competition in the VFL, which then morphed into the AFL.
The SANFL, WAFL haven’t morphed into anything else.