Bluemour Discussion Thread IV

[SickQwon]

Wouldn't mind Hopper & Kelly for two firsts.

 

[thylacine60]

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[Jabba73]

Fantasia is clearly the next instalment

 

[passmark]

Fantasia is clearly the next instalment

Ooorrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaazzeeeeeeoooooooo.

FMD he's embarrassing .

He's basically just making fun of a first name that isnt Jack, Jake or Steve etc.

What ****ing year is it? Does BT stil think he's at Manduarah High School.

 

[Salt Lake Cities]

Ooorrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaazzeeeeeeoooooooo.

FMD he's embarrassing .

He's basically just making fun of a first name that isnt Jack, Jake or Steve etc.

What ******* year is it? Does BT stil think he's at Manduarah High School.

Well technically he never graduated beyond year 8 so perhaps he does...

 

[PumpyChowdown]

[small ruckus can be heard in the distance, slowly gathering in volume as a speck appears on the horizon, also growing as the collection of light and sound draws near]

ME: fffFYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyyfffffff.....

[blazes off into the distance]

I know I'm in the minority here, but I bloody love BT, especially on the radio. He makes footy fun again. You can tell he doesn't take himself too seriously, he calls (pretty well), but his enthusiasm is awesome.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Yeah, Vafa doesn't present info without integrity.

Interesting about our interest in Kelly and it sort of makes sense. although are we ready to open up that war-chest this year though?
Hopper makes for an obvious hit but not feeling the same about our ability to land Kelly.

Hopper and Kelly without losing this years first? It would take a bit, but it could be done.

Don't go and mention that on their page. They lost their marbles after our interest in Hopper was mentioned there.

 

[F_therest]

If it was Kelly and Hopper for our 2017 and 2018 first rounders then it's not "selling the farm" at all. If we start sending multiple picks then it probably is. Personally I would prefer to just chase Hopper and hope to get a really good deal. Players like Kelly though with great outside games are bloody hard to find and are worth their weight in gold

I'd do this in a heartbeat.
Kelly and Hopper were high draft picks themselves who have gone on to show they are good enough at AFL level, with Kelly in particular starring now.
Both in their early 20s still and would instantly make our midfield A grade.

We've invested in the draft heavily for 2 years...i'm sure that will continue but we've stockpiled a lot of kids now so trading a first or even 2 isn't that big a deal if it gets us players like Hopper & Kelly.

Those players will actually help our draftees of the last 2 years lift their games and could even lift us into premiership contention within the careers of Murphy, Gibbs (if he stays) & Kreuz.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

I know I'm in the minority here, but I bloody love BT, especially on the radio. He makes footy fun again. You can tell he doesn't take himself too seriously, he calls (pretty well), but his enthusiasm is awesome.

Better than Sandi... How many ****ing names did he get wrong in our game. Called Plowman Fisher twice and the rest just said Carlton cause he had no idea who they were

 

[F_therest]

Better than Sandi... How many ******* names did he get wrong in our game. Called Plowman Fisher twice and the rest just said Carlton cause he had no idea who they were

Sandy is actually terrible for that reason.

I also dont mind BT he does at least know who the players are and what he's talking about...don't mind the over the top calls not a big deal sometimes keeps things interesting.

Actually quite liked that Brandon Speed commentator of our games against Sydney...or whatever his name is that commentates the A-League Soccer as well.
Didn't like him at first but he's grown on me...he calls the game quite well and certainly knows his stuff...constantly bringing up stats and plays from games that had happened in the past (eg mentioned how Fisher kicked a great goal on his debut). Much better than someone like Sandy who keeps getting basic things wrong like a players name.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I can't see SOS wanting to enter a bidding war for Kelly.
We may if we were on the edge of the 8 and needed some of what he has to offer, but it may just be a little early right now.
If the asking price is 1mil and over 5-9 years for our first rounder and then some.......do we enter the bidding?

We backed out for Prestia last year and I just don't see us backing ourselves to the degree Kelly would take, just yet.

As much as I like Kelly, he doesn't make the difference. Reckon we could do better and at the right time.
If he was a free agent, then of course.....but not for the money that could effectively tie-up 2 quality players.

I tend to agree. I don't think we have enough to offer GWS for Hopper and Kelly, surely GWS would take us to the cleaners. I get the feeling some are wanting us to fast track the rebuild a little.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I'd do this in a heartbeat.
Kelly and Hopper were high draft picks themselves who have gone on to show they are good enough at AFL level, with Kelly in particular starring now.
Both in their early 20s still and would instantly make our midfield A grade.

We've invested in the draft heavily for 2 years...i'm sure that will continue but we've stockpiled a lot of kids now so trading a first or even 2 isn't that big a deal if it gets us players like Hopper & Kelly.

Those players will actually help our draftees of the last 2 years lift their games and could even lift us into premiership contention within the careers of Murphy, Gibbs (if he stays) & Kreuz.

Don't think two first is enough to get them both personally.

 

[1981]

We should be trying to get Hopper without coughing up a first. Not saying thats easy but you strive to win in trades, right?

Kelly would cost a lot in a trade, probably too much.

 

[Salt Lake Cities]

I tend to agree. I don't think we have enough to offer GWS for Hopper and Kelly, surely GWS would take us to the cleaners. I get the feeling some are wanting us to fast track the rebuild a little.

Not at all. I simply don't think giving up quite a bit for Kelly & Hopper is trying to fast track it.

They aren't in their mid-late 20's, they are 10yr plus players, bloody good ones at that. Kelly is proven and Hopper has done plenty up to now.

I think they would compliment our list perfectly and are the perfect age bracket.

Would it fast track it literally, yes. Is it the fast track we've taken in the past that we are all wary of, I personally don't think it is.

 

[F_therest]

Don't think two first is enough to get them both personally.

You're probably right.

I highly doubt we'd be able to get them both in a package deal...we know there will be plenty of other clubs going after each of them as well, which a huge deal already tabled by North to Kelly apparently which i can't see us getting anywhere near.

I reckon it goes as far to say we are interested in Kelly...i mean of course we are he's a gun.
But realistically, SOS and co probably already know we are highly unlikely to land him and i see Hopper as our main target.

When's the last time a team managed to lure 2 gun players from an opposition team that they wanted to keep? GWS would demand a lot in return and rightly so...the hypothetical that they would both request a trade to the same club would piss GWS off. It would be like Freo successfully getting Cripps and SPS to request a trade to them.

 

[1981]

Two firsts for those two, where do I sign?

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

What r Norf prepared to give up for Kelly?
Their 1st which could be a top 5 pick. They haven't had many high picks in recent years, do we think they would do that?

 

[Salt Lake Cities]

You're probably right.

I highly doubt we'd be able to get them both in a package deal...we know there will be plenty of other clubs going after each of them as well, which a huge deal already tabled by North to Kelly apparently which i can't see us getting anywhere near.

I reckon it goes as far to say we are interested in Kelly...i mean of course we are he's a gun.
But realistically, SOS and co probably already know we are highly unlikely to land him and i see Hopper as our main target.

Our first this year - 5ish
A first from Bryce leaving - 16ish
Next years second - mid 20's

Ask for their second back from this year - mid 30's

I think if we could get them to both nominate us, they'd look very closely at that.

 

[Michael Jezz]

This years first and the Gibbs first from Crows (if he goes) and next years second to GWS.

Kelly, Hopper and one of their 2017 second rounders to us.

Kelly
Hopper
2017 2nd to Freo via GWS for Balic
2018 1st on best mid
Ben SOS with leftover 2018 picks

Instant stud midfield, all 23 and under at start of next season.

Sign me up.

Wow.

We are just proving that we can grow organically through the draft and so whats the suggestion, start giving up 1st and 2nd round draft picks. Why cant we be patient and continue doing value trades rather than sell the farm

 

[Michael Jezz]

I know I'm in the minority here, but I bloody love BT, especially on the radio. He makes footy fun again. You can tell he doesn't take himself too seriously, he calls (pretty well), but his enthusiasm is awesome.

Taylor is a twat. A brainless commentator who is a populist anti carlton neanderthal

 

[Jimmae]

I know I'm in the minority here, but I bloody love BT, especially on the radio. He makes footy fun again. You can tell he doesn't take himself too seriously, he calls (pretty well), but his enthusiasm is awesome.

His biggest issues are when he makes too much effort to bring it into the commentary. When it's the right moment, it's hilarious (see: Stringer GF clip), but when he is just trying to gee up a boring game or gets obsessed with a particularly unusual name it's just annoying.

Needs to iron out the bogan within a bit.

 

[Michael Jezz]

I'd do this in a heartbeat.
Kelly and Hopper were high draft picks themselves who have gone on to show they are good enough at AFL level, with Kelly in particular starring now.
Both in their early 20s still and would instantly make our midfield A grade.

We've invested in the draft heavily for 2 years...i'm sure that will continue but we've stockpiled a lot of kids now so trading a first or even 2 isn't that big a deal if it gets us players like Hopper & Kelly.

Those players will actually help our draftees of the last 2 years lift their games and could even lift us into premiership contention within the careers of Murphy, Gibbs (if he stays) & Kreuz.

2 years of drafting is not commitment to the long term. Its too early for cfc to be faint hearted and take the sucker punch and path of least resistance. Bulldogs started their rebuild in 2010 with f/s pickd libba and wallis. We need to stick to the plan-do it tough for another year

 

[Coona Blues]

I can't see SOS wanting to enter a bidding war for Kelly.
We may if we were on the edge of the 8 and needed some of what he has to offer, but it may just be a little early right now.
If the asking price is 1mil and over 5-9 years for our first rounder and then some.......do we enter the bidding?

We backed out for Prestia last year and I just don't see us backing ourselves to the degree Kelly would take, just yet.

As much as I like Kelly, he doesn't make the difference. Reckon we could do better and at the right time.
If he was a free agent, then of course.....but not for the money that could effectively tie-up 2 quality players.

I know Vafa has creds, but can't help thinking has misheard Kelly for Kennedy. The reported tabled deal for
Kelly from North is astronomical, and can't see us going there. He has family ties, the only way he rejects North
is if he sees a bleak future for them................

 

[Salt Lake Cities]

We are just proving that we can grow organically through the draft and so whats the suggestion, start giving up 1st and 2nd round draft picks. Why cant we be patient and continue doing value trades rather than sell the farm

We can, I'd have no issue with that. If you can bring in young players with the quality of Kelly and Hopper though, you'd be mad not to look at it long and hard.

 

[HARKER]

What do you mean by doesnt make the difference harks ? . Not too many players are going to be better than Kelly by the time he's 25 . And we are talking about 10 year players here would come at an expensive cost but i'd rate him a better prospect than Treloar as he has better disposal. They would be our version of Prestia and Caddy to richmond but better and i have no doubt those additions have helped richmond . And with those types of additions making a much better midfield our forwardline becomes instantly better with midfield dominance .

Hopper will be better than Prestia and we won't even put the names Kelly & Caddy within a few hundred metres of one another.

Kelly is a wonderful user, a terrific character from all reports and an addition any team would like.
It's just what we'd have to give up compared to what we may be able to bring in.

Collingwood got Treloar and as much as he may well be their best player right now, has he alone really made the difference to the club?
I'd sooner for us to be recognizing the cheaper talent and building them up within our structures....and SOS does like those 2 for 1's as opposed one player for potentially two premium picks, ala Treloar.