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Bluemour Discussion Thread IV

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passmark said:
He might, but I still think Freo will want more for Balic.

Frankly, based on Boeks efforts the only way I'd take him at Freo is if he was delisted or steak knives.

Maybe that's just me and he still has three games to increase his footy currency.
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I think your anti-boek bias is poking through
 
LanceRomance said:
I think your anti-boek bias is poking through
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Was his biggest supporter for a long time, fast, skillful, terrific potential but his disappearing acts in tough games time after time ended that. I backed him in for 18 months but.........

His last two games are his best and, like I said, he has three games to save his career, IMO.
 
passmark said:
Was his biggest supporter for a long time, fast, skillful, terrific potential but his disappearing acts in tough games time after time ended that. I backed him in for 18 months but.........

His last two games are his best and, like I said, he has three games to save his career, IMO.
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If he gets dropped this week I'll concede that he is gone
 

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Wickzki said:
Realistically, Balic is a delist candidate himself. He's an end of second round selection in a relatively shallow draft. He has only played 4 senior games for a team who hasn't made the finals in either year that he's been at the club. I recognize that he was injured most of his first year but he's had chances this year and taken mostly personal leave. (Edit/add: Reminds me of Stephen Oliver. A great talent that we had on our list in the 90's but was too homesick to ever realize it in the VFL/AFL. It happens and sadly you could tell on the day that he was drafted that it was going to happen to Balic. The way that he went about it shows me that he knew that the Dockers were interested in him and that he had already given signs that he wasn't going to be very receptive of them drafting him. In other words, they should've known better than to waste a pick).

The only players to have played 20+ games who were drafted after him:

  • Rhys Mathieson
  • Jack Silvagni (father/son)
  • Mitchell Brown (a mature age recruit for Essendon, 21 games last year)
  • Tom Phillips (over-age recruit by Collingwood)
  • Sam Menegola (a mature age recruit by Geelong)
  • Michael Hartley (another mature age recruit by Essendon)
That's four over or mature age recruits and a father/son selection.

Balic isn't worth much. If we have to give up anything for him then I see it as being Blaine and a swap of lower draft picks.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/the-wa...ocker-harley-balics-trade-value-ng-b88560635z

The West Australian say that they'd be hopeful to take something in the 40s. That's our third round draft pick. I'd give them Blaine, our fourth and swap our thirds.
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it's an interesting call, Balic was the slider of that draft, was predicted to go in the top 20 and only went at 38. been injured and had some family issues. remember he was bribed by his parents not to go to Perth too when he got drafted
 
jonob1995 said:
it's an interesting call, Balic was the slider of that draft, was predicted to go in the top 20 and only went at 38. been injured and had some family issues. remember he was bribed by his parents not to go to Perth too when he got drafted
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Mathieson even more the slider in 2015.
All well if we move on Balic, but won't be too disappointed should we not get him.
Reckon our priorities may lie elsewhere.
 
Wickzki said:
No. He'd be a perfect KPD-Ruck. He lacks the natural instincts of a forward. But with Plowman, Weitering, Marchbank and Jones already down back we wouldn't need him to play there. That takes away much of his effectiveness.

I have a strong feeling that whoever misses out on Lever will jump straight onto Trengrove. He'd bloody perfect at the Western Bulldogs, actually. Not quite the defender Lever projects to being but given that he's a capable second ruck he'd be a natural.
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Trengove talk has me perplexed. While being a competitive type forward, he is only gap filler. Maybe the thinking is to free up a Weitering/Jones/ Marchbank to go forward also to find a pinch hitting Harry Taylor type.
 
Wickzki said:
Where's your proof?

Boek has shown more than Balic has at the AFL level.

Boek has shown that he can adjust to the mental challenges of moving across the country whereas Balic has not.
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C'mon they are professional footballers-well paid young men. Unless there are extreme circumstances (ie Hogan) they will cope. Geez, I could have become a nuclear physicist had I not had to endure the mental challenges of boarding school!
 
I think if that age article comes true & we keep Gibbs & get Kelly & Hopper, it makes us a much, much better team. Whatever the knocks on Murphy playing inside, I think everyone agrees when he has the ball with space, he generally uses it well. Hopper / Cripps / Ed on the inside with Kelly & Gibbs in & out or some mix thereof if Gibbs goes. Murphy can then play outside & distribute into F50. SPS to be added in there as well of course. The young forwards get better service, it also takes some heat off Simmo without him getting sucked up the ground into congestion.

I still think we need a fast rebound defender & a crafty small forward. Someone like that guy Betts who plays for Adelaide............
 

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Jackson Trengove...no thanks.

Such a poor fit for our list rebuild, this intel is unlikely to have any substance behind it.

Not going to happen.
 
The Old Dark Navy's said:
Trengrove won't cost us anything but salary and loss of Levi compo. We don't have a second rounder though so our first pick will be in the 30s.
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Have the Trengroves got anything to do with Carlton,didn't Kane Lucas live with them when he was drafted?
 
RobR said:
Have the Trengroves got anything to do with Carlton,didn't Kane Lucas live with them when he was drafted?
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Hadn't heard about that.
 

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passmark said:
Proof?

It's an opinion. Boeks had three years and shown what he has, which ain't enough to save him.

Balic hasn't failed yet. He might but he hasn't yet.

The best thing Boek has is he's less likely to get delisted than Bucks and has three games to show something. So not dead yet Burton the gurney heading to the ER.
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Balik "has failed yet" to even get on the park.
 
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