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That rule doesn't take affect until 2019 I believe, but would need to check

They could trade this year's pick and players, as I am sure WC would prefer players rather than pick, given their window, perhaps another FA, such as Thomas

Pick 1 + Thomas, + a later pick

Looks light from an Eagles perspective, but I am sure a deal could be done
Yeah - I think it leaves them in a position where they have to draft in the first round next year, if they trade away this years. Pretty sure there was a clear rule in place, which they AFL then backflipped on to help Geelong out.
 

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If North backed away, if WC match and North don't trade, another club will
I guess the point I am making is that if Gaff has agreed to a $1.2 million per season contract, West Coast have to agree to that salary. I don't see how Hawthorn, for example, becomes an option at $900K, they would need to also match the $1.2 million salary that he has agreed to. West Coast won't be able to force him somewhere on a salary that is less than he has agreed to. The whole point of the $1.2 million salary is to blow the other teams out of the water, Hawthorn and Melbourne wouldn't want to put that kind of pressure on their cap PLUS have to trade multiple first round picks for him.
 

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A lot of bullshit on this board today:rolleyes::mad:

I heard Jezza is a lock for assistant coach next year.
You don't even have to ask me...I'm honoured and will happily pack the family up and move down to take on the role!
Let's do this.
 

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Because he's Dylan Shiel and every club in the comp would be happy to take him off their hands?

Again - a club can't (reasonably) tell a player they want to trade them mid-contract, but then stipulate a shortlist of clubs they're prepared to trade with. Players have much more power than you're crediting them with. If Shiel nominates a club, GWS aren't dealing with anyone else. If a reasonable trade can't be reached, Shiel plays out his contract and GWS miss the boat. Given that, if Carlton (hypothetically) get nominated, and offer up a fair trade (2019 first rounder), I can't really see much wriggle room for GWS. They can threaten to hold Shiel to his contract, but both sides know they don't really want that. They certainly can't say "but Essendon have offered a second round pick as well, so you should too" - it's completely and utterly irrelevant to the discussion.
That's why they wouldn't let him just go and test the market as you're stating. They would do that before he is given the chance otherwise they will just back themselves into a corner. Shiel won't go anywhere he doesn't want to and GWS won't let a star player go unless they are more than happy with what they are getting. They have a history of getting what they want for good players
 

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I guess the point I am making is that if Gaff has agreed to a $1.2 million per season contract, West Coast have to agree to that salary. I don't see how Hawthorn, for example, becomes an option at $900K, they would need to also match the $1.2 million salary that he has agreed to. West Coast won't be able to force him somewhere on a salary that is less than he has agreed to. The whole point of the $1.2 million salary is to blow the other teams out of the water, Hawthorn and Melbourne wouldn't want to put that kind of pressure on their cap PLUS have to trade multiple first round picks for him.
If WC, match the 1.2 and Gaff is willing to stay, they would lose Lycett, and target Roughead from the Dogs, plus a couple of others that I won't mention just yet

Gaff wants back to Melbourne, if it is not North, he would still get there, via another club

Main criteria, still wants final's footy
 

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maybe, just maybe Gaff has had a 'conversation' or 2 with CFC... the club has spoken about another mid's / recruits that may be coming, he can see the future and he's changed his mind. North are North... why (other than $) would you go there..... Just speculation of course. OMG these next 5 weeks are going to be painful.
I doubt Gaff will be wearing Navy Blue next year, but maybe after having his career best season, his current midfield coach has encouraged him to join him next year at the Blues and work with him again!!?
 

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If WC, match the 1.2 and Gaff is willing to stay, they would lose Lycett, and target Roughead from the Dogs, plus a couple of others that I won't mention just yet

Gaff wants back to Melbourne, if it is not North, he would still get there, via another club

Main criteria, still wants final's footy
You sound very definitive on Gaff, as though you know him personally and know as an absolute fact that he will happily accept $350K-$400K less a year than he agreed to. Your post defies logic, if he agrees to North then I would suggest that money would have played a decent part of any decision to move there. Anyway, this is a boring conversation, time to move on.
 

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You sound very definitive on Gaff, as though you know him personally and know as an absolute fact that he will happily accept $350K-$400K less a year than he agreed to. Your post defies logic, if he agrees to North then I would suggest that money would have played a decent part of any decision to move there. Anyway, this is a boring conversation, time to move on.
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