I can bloody well Guarantee those Crow flogs get nowhere near the Flag. They'll be lucky to make the 8You're assuming the Cows will win the flag and omitting the Stocker pick altogether in that analysis.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
I can bloody well Guarantee those Crow flogs get nowhere near the Flag. They'll be lucky to make the 8You're assuming the Cows will win the flag and omitting the Stocker pick altogether in that analysis.
Don't understand what you don't get. There is a big difference between the pick swaps - Pick 1!
It was a gamble and its backfired completely.
SOS is under so much scrutiny from supporters and internally. Nail in coffin he will walk.
They do but they also drop so many games they shouldnt they should finish 5th or 6th though
Don't understand what you don't get. There is a big difference between the pick swaps - Pick 1!
It was a gamble and its backfired completely.
Adelaide finishing top 2? More chance of Jonesy coming back into the side as a forward and kicking 4 a week to finish off the season...
There were people floating the idea of trading Weiters/Asking if we picked the wrong player, some people just don't understand the future talent is unknown and you can't possibly assess it in it's infancy. Now had we of done that trade during the trade period and picked up some meh player in his late 20's than sure it's backfired but I have full faith in SOS... who's to say the player crows pick is in the ilks of Jack Watts, Josh Schache, Richard Tambling, Scott Gumbleton... Stocker could well and truly be better than whoever they pick after all... in 2013 Crippa went 13 and the rest is historyHow can you call it a backfire when the second part of the "gamble" is unknown? We don't know what draft pick we'll get, we don't know what player that will get us and we don't know how those 2 players (or more) will fare in a season or 2.
For us to get out of the bottom 5, by winning 7 games total, you're banking on:
- One of Essendon, Hawthorn, NM and St Kilda to win 1 or fewer games
- Sydney and WB to win than 2 or fewer games,
- Melbourne and GC to win 3 or fewer games.
That first point is extremely unrealistic, all those sides will win at least 2 games out of the next 10. The others?
"Likely" (more like "reasonably possible") wins are bolded (I've based ours on what I assume you think we'll win).
Carlton: WB (H), Fre (A), Mel (H), Syd (A), GC (H), Ade (H), WC (H), Rich (A), StK (H), Gee (A)
Sydney: Haw (H), GC (H), Ess (A), Car (H), Fre (A), Gee (H), GWS (A), PA (A), Mel (A), StK (H)
WB: Col (H), PA (A), Gee (H), Mel (H), StK (A), Fre (H), Bris (A), Ess (A), GWS (A), Ade (H)
Melbourne: Fre (H), Bris (A), Car (A), WB (A), WC (H), StK (A), Rich (H), Col (H), Syd (H), NM (A)
GC: StK (H), Syd (A), Rich (H), Ade (H), Car (A), Ess (H), Col (A), Bris (A), Haw (A), GWS (H)
All of Essendon, Hawthorn, NM and St Kilda stay ahead.
Sydney stay ahead.
Only got one win pencilled in for WB, but they have a lot of 50/50 games and I reckon they win at least three total.
Melbourne similar, but decent chance we could jump them.
GC look to be running out of puff, doubt they win 4, so we possibly jump them too.
Best case scenario I see us getting to 15th, meaning Adelaide walk away with Pick 4.
Pretty good chance it's Pick 3.
Drop one of those 5 games you've got us winning and it's probably Pick 2.
Feeling confident we should avoid finishing last looking at GC's draw.
My nearest to the pin attempt is pick 2 for 15 (and Stocker obviously)
My nearest to the pin attempt is pick 2 for 15 (and Stocker obviously)
How can you call it a backfire when the second part of the "gamble" is unknown? We don't know what draft pick we'll get, we don't know what player that will get us and we don't know how those 2 players (or more) will fare in a season or 2.
What if Stocker turns out as good as whoever they pick at 1 or 2 and then we still have a free hit? You can't call this trade a fail anytime soon.How?
Easy - ignore the specifics and just go off the emotion of trading what (at round 13) is Pick 1.
Lazy sensationalism, best reserved for Facebook comments.
A bit of analysis and you can see that:
A) It may not be Pick 1. Picks 2 or 3 are genuine possibilities.
B) We probably get a pick in the early teens back.
C) The decision was made on the basis that we would likely climb up the ladder...which isn't a judgement the recruiting team would make themselves.
D) The trade scenario was signed off by the board, knowing full well what the risks were.
If SOS leaves, which is certainly a possibility, I doubt it's because the Stocker trade gets graded as a fail on his part and he's pushed out the door. Plenty of other considerations.
I did neither of those.You're assuming the Cows will win the flag and omitting the Stocker pick altogether in that analysis.
You've been a bit optimistic re the crows. You really have them losing to the dogs in rd 23? Only winning 5 of the last 10 games is a bit harsh too.View attachment 691374
Quick Ladder Predictor has us with Pick #4 and Adelaide with Pick #11. I'd do that trade for Liam Stocker at this rate. Also, that's giving Adelaide the game against us in Round 18 or so. That's a huge game for us at home. We need to beat them there.
Pick 12+ limits the calibre of player we can target, especially if they're contacted. Pick 1 would have meant we could target anyone and have the currency to get the trade over the line, whether contracted or not.True but even 15/16 could change things considerably. Everyone is banging on about how us wanting to trade our first rounder so who cares what it is. Which might be our intention but there is a big difference between intention and execution. We won't be the only ones after established talent and could find ourselves outbid.
would love another swing at a pick 13 just very quietly............
Yep. That's the point. How many of the Pick 1's have been the best players over the years?
Apart from Cripps what picks were Dangerfield Fyfe Martin Neale Selwood Kelly M.Crouch R.Gray Shuey Grundy Gawn etc etc?
The focus on Pick One is ridiculous and it's ONE player.
would love another swing at a pick 13 just very quietly............
They wouldn't trade pick 1 IMO and they probably knew who they were going to target when they done the pick swap. Always got next years first if we are after a very good player, i'm confident our list management team have all bases covered. It aint over till it's over.Pick 12+ limits the calibre of player we can target, especially if they're contacted. Pick 1 would have meant we could target anyone and have the currency to get the trade over the line, whether contracted or not.
Is there another yarran in this draft? LolLucky 13..
Keep your eye on Jacob Dragovich in the WAFL...
Pick 12+ limits the calibre of player we can target, especially if they're contacted. Pick 1 would have meant we could target anyone and have the currency to get the trade over the line, whether contracted or not.
Sorry, I assumed #19 was referring to 2019, as Adelaide's pick last year was #16, having slipped to 19 due to academy/father son. That said, from what I've seen of Stocker, he's at least as good as many of those selected earlier. Things may change, but bottom line, I don't think it's as bad for SOS as some make out to be. And, he wouldn't acted without consulting others in the football Dept.I did neither of those.