Bluemour Discussion Thread XVII - Coniglio means Rabbit in Italian!

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[Jimmae]

Barker to step down as an assistant at years end.

He has big things planned for next year and beyond, in conjunction with the AFL, internationally based which I won't elaborate on.

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#Bluemour

Barker jumping before he gets pushed...

This reads like a rusted-on politician getting an embassy posting, except for one thing: what the * does Barker have on everyone in the AFL?

 

[Judds Junk]

Papley
Congilio
& B.Hill.

I have no idea how we'd get all of that done... but that would be a helluva off season.

 

[Soapy V]

Papley
Congilio
& B.Hill.

I have no idea how we'd get all of that done... but that would be a helluva off season.

I would be happy with

Jack Martin
Brad Hill
Will Brodie
Tom Papley
Darcy Cameron

plus a FA and a couple of State Leaguers

 

[VeinGlorious]

Spot on.
It took my dad last year.
Boy do I miss the old boy.

Got my Uncle late last year

Was a true blue Carlton man deep down but never supported fully as my Aunty is the most passionate Pies supporter I’ve ever witnessed.

I never knew he was Carlton until he’d passed and my dad told me the story

I always thought he was Collingwood

Such a good man he supported his wife more

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Please tell me it’s not Ross Lyon

The word I heard is that old man Ross is using Carlton as a * you to freo but he doesn’t actually want the job. No idea how reliable the word is but I choose to believe.

 

[VeinGlorious]

I would be happy with

Jack Martin
Brad Hill
Will Brodie
Tom Papley
Darcy Cameron

plus a FA and a couple of State Leaguers

I’d be happy with that too Soap

Question is, how do we find the currency to get it done

I count at least 3 first rounders, 2 second rounders and a late 3rd-4th for Cameron

 

[VeinGlorious]

djholmes goes bang in the rumour thread.

 

[Soapy V]

I’d be happy with that too Soap

Question is, how do we find the currency to get it done

I count at least 3 first rounders, 2 second rounders and a late 3rd-4th for Cameron

At a guess but with a lot of other pick swaps/extras/salary cap relief etc this is the base of what I think it will take

Jack Martin/Will Brodie (this years first)
Brad Hill (future second)
Tom Papley (future first)
Darcy Cameron (bugger all)

 

[Jeremias]

A future 2nd round pick for Brad Hill is about as optimistic as it gets.

Why would Fremantle do that?

 

[VeinGlorious]

Wouldn’t Freo want more than that for Hill though.

Contracted still, did he win a bnf as well or am I dreaming that

 

[ferrisb]

The word I heard is that old man Ross is using Carlton as a fu** you to freo but he doesn’t actually want the job. No idea how reliable the word is but I choose to believe.

#PleaseBeTrue

 

[Soapy V]

A future 2nd round pick for Brad Hill is about as optimistic as it gets.

Why would Fremantle do that?

He was traded from Hawks to Freo for Pick 23 as a 24 year old. Now at 27 he isn't worth more than that IMO

 

[ferrisb]

I've heard the following will happen:

Brad Hill to Carlton
Papley to Carlton
Teague to be coach
Paul Roos to have mentor role for Teague

 

[Accidental genius]

I’d be happy with that too Soap

Question is, how do we find the currency to get it done

I count at least 3 first rounders, 2 second rounders and a late 3rd-4th for Cameron

Not just a currency issue..how do we fit those players into the seniors...particularly when we have a healthy list. We have been struggling to find a player to drop these last few games as lots of players have now stepped up and starting to show very good signs. I think we desperately need a crumbing forward and probably a ruckman as back up.

 

[Dravid's in]

A future 2nd round pick for Brad Hill is about as optimistic as it gets.

Why would Fremantle do that?

Agree. Pick #36 for Brad Hill is a horrible deal for them.

 

[VeinGlorious]

Gold Dravid, gold

 

[Soapy V]

Not just a currency issue..how do we fit those players into the seniors...particularly when we have a healthy list. We have been struggling to find a player to drop these last few games as lots of players have now stepped up and starting to show very good signs. I think we desperately need a crumbing forward and probably a ruckman as back up.

Sarcasm AG?

 

[Stamos]

Agree. Pick #36 for Brad Hill is a horrible deal for them.

You’re not accounting for FA compensation picks, nor Academy and Father Son bids. Probably be more like 40 or 41

 

[Manhattanite]

At a guess but with a lot of other pick swaps/extras/salary cap relief etc this is the base of what I think it will take

Jack Martin/Will Brodie (this years first)
Brad Hill (future second)
Tom Papley (future first)
Darcy Cameron (bugger all)

From what I’ve read no one is expecting Jack Martin to be worth a first round pick - the market price seems to be a second as most clubs don’t want him (and didn’t last year).

Brodie hasn’t shown enough to be a first rounder either. But he is contracted.

Papley is definitely worth a first round (but not top 10) pick and we need to pay that.

Cameron isn’t worth much - maybe a 4th.

Bradley Hill remains to be seen. If he doesn’t want to be there then there’s not much Freo can do. And if they replace Lyon, the new coach will want a clean slate anyway so will be happy with whatever they can get.


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[The Blue Weirdo]

This reads like a rusted-on politician getting an embassy posting, except for one thing: what the fu** does Barker have on everyone in the AFL?

He's a fugitive?

 

[VeinGlorious]

Not just a currency issue..how do we fit those players into the seniors...particularly when we have a healthy list. We have been struggling to find a player to drop these last few games as lots of players have now stepped up and starting to show very good signs. I think we desperately need a crumbing forward and probably a ruckman as back up.

Competition for spots will be fierce if we add another 3-4 best 22-30 players

Injuries will happen and we’ll at least have the depth to cover said injuries

The “D” word will finally happen

If we have a chance to bring in quality we do it every time

Thing I’m worried about is bringing them in on big $ and losing others we don’t want to lose

Footy landscape I spose

 

[Opine]

Competition for spots will be fierce if we add another 3-4 best 22-30 players

Injuries will happen and we’ll at least have the depth to cover said injuries

The “D” word will finally happen

If we have a chance to bring in quality we do it every time

Thing I’m worried about is bringing them in on big $ and losing others we don’t want to lose

Footy landscape I spose

What is the “D” word?

 

[Accidental genius]

Sarcasm AC?

No it wasn’t...I just prefer to persevere with the young talent we have. Just get in what we desperately lack. Ie small crumbing forward.

 

[Soapy V]

Competition for spots will be fierce if we add another 3-4 best 22-30 players

Injuries will happen and we’ll at least have the depth to cover said injuries

The “D” word will finally happen

If we have a chance to bring in quality we do it every time

Thing I’m worried about is bringing them in on big $ and losing others we don’t want to lose

Footy landscape I spose

To be successful you need a real quality 30-35. Competition for spots is vital. Also Murphy Thomas Simpson maybe Kruezer won't be at the club in 2021.