Bluemour Discussion Thread XVIII - Please Sir, Can We Have More?

[myblueroan]

Can Barass run through the midfield?

He does a good link and run.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

The issue with Deluca is that we are basically playing him as a smaller forward, where his craft is primarily as a hard nosed mid.

If we're looking to actively recruit one or two genuine small forwards, he doesn't really have a role or position.

We've used Gibbo a similar way as a smaller pressure forward, but I can see him shifting more into the midfield post Murph.

 

[Keyza]

Can’t understand why Silvagni is being so conservative, we desperately need mature bodied talent in any position on the field.

Agree. Unless we have someone else lined up we have all of this excess salary cap we accumulated.
My understanding is if we don't spend it we lose it. If this is the case then why wouldn't we offer a bit more to get the player we want, within reason of course?

 

[myblueroan]

Maybe. But he IS not an a grade player

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I think the emPHAsos is a little out there.

 

[Bostonian]

Jack Martin is an A grade player.

Yeah nah. A graders play at a consistent high level.

Martin does not do that.

 

[spry]

nothing wrong with his frame that I can see, his quads etc are peak, his goal-kicking is schmick, get him to work on his running and acceleration and keep him off any grassy knolls over summer and we have a deadset mid-forward weapon..........

I believe you 100%.

But seriously, he’s got smarts, good vision and hands in tight. If he gets his fitness up like you said we’ll have a contributor that’s for sure.


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[Bluebag13]

I think the emPHAsos is a little out there.

I was um'ing and ah'ing whether I should do it or not. In the end the little peanut inside me won the battle

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[Blue Bloods]

I would love to know where all this coniglio money is going if we we’re not willing to up the ante on Martin.

Whitfield next year

 

[Bluebag13]

Here we go again

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Bump

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[Blue Bloods]

Going to The Champions of Carlton function tonight on a VIP table with Diesel and Sticks any questions for two of our best ever?

 

[Keyza]

We have a Next Gen program?

The area we have is so small it is easy to forget.

 

[gandaal]

Going to The Champions of Carlton function tonight on a VIP table with Diesel and Sticks any questions for two of our best ever?

What is their favourite cheese?

 

[95blues]

What talent does he possess? Slow, no tank, poor user of the ball, poor goal sense, poor positioning.

Sorry, don't see it.

Slow? Polson?

 

[Mr_Plow]

What talent does he possess? Slow, no tank, poor user of the ball, poor goal sense, poor positioning.

Sorry, don't see it.

He has no AFL attributes.

Whoever recruited him thought they were pulling a late-draft injured gem, but it didn't work, which is fine. But they should have acknowledged it earlier and cut losses.

 

[My Hat]

Ive got no problems cutting Deluca as such.

My concern is the waste of time, money and resources in picking him in the first place. He was never picked up with the view of being an A grader, so why not at the very least give him the opportunity to complete a full pre season to truly determine if he has the attributes to make it.

We would have been better off plucking a ruckman with raw potential, or as you mentioned, picking up a player expected to go in the draft a few months earlier than expected and get some time into him if that was the case.

I'll reiterate...an absolutely stupid move recruiting him in the first place, if he is cut.

I think your comment reveals the basic tension with the mid-season draft. Everything you say makes perfect sense if the draft is seen as an opportunity to make a long-term selection, as the end of year drafts have always been. However, the whole purpose of the mid-season draft (according to the AFL) is short-term -- it's a chance to top up on a position where you've had an unexpected run of injuries or whatever. In essence the AFL wants this to be a different kind of draft to all the other drafts we're used to.

Each club then has a decision: will it make a long-term selection like it would at any other draft, or a short-term selection like the AFL wants it to? This year for better or worse we apparently opted for the short-term approach. Was that an 'absolutely stupid move'? Maybe, maybe not, but I think it's understandable given our win-loss position at the time.

That said, I think clubs that don't have immediate needs at mid-season draft time (and even some that do) will increasingly take the long-term view and use their selection as you describe, thus defeating the purpose of the mid-season draft... at which point the AFL will have to face the fact that once again they've introduced a change without properly thinking through how clubs will adapt to it over time.

 

[myblueroan]

Whitfield next year

Warming him up nicely for us today I see.

 

[Aphrodite]

We have a Next Gen program?

List Mgmt. - Next Generation Academy/Northern Knights

Do we still have first dibs on Wild? We should have on the same basis that the Dopers still have access to Chris Johnson's son, who has moved from the Dopers NGA zone to the other side of town. Would love some clarification on this because I reckon Wild could be a handy, no-cost selection.

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[Blue Bloods]

What is their favourite cheese?

Already know Blue Vein

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

Going to The Champions of Carlton function tonight on a VIP table with Diesel and Sticks any questions for two of our best ever?

Ask them if we’re finally getting Pav this year

 

[gandaal]

Slow? Polson?

Is "not fast" better?

 

[myblueroan]

Going to The Champions of Carlton function tonight on a VIP table with Diesel and Sticks any questions for two of our best ever?

Yes please.
1/Sticks, how many hours per week should McKay practice goal kicking?
2/ When can you start as his personal coach?
3/ Diesel I love you.
Whaddya mean that ain't a question? Geez.

 

[Blue Bloods]

Warming him up nicely for us today I see.

Whitfield is the best of the three imo. Whitfield, Kelly then Cogs.

 

[myblueroan]

Whitfield is the best of the three imo. Whitfield, Kelly then Cogs.

I am starting to agree with you.

 

[KohPhi]

Bit of sass around today negends


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Let me be clear.

I don't mind being called 'stoopid', but the next poster who calls my gifs 'lame' will receive a response back from me with my 'fightin' pants on...

 

[Blue Bloods]

Yes please.
1/Sticks, how many hours per week should McKay practice goal kicking?
2/ When can you start as his personal coach?
3/ Diesel I love you.
Whaddya mean that ain't a question? Geez.

I will ask Diesel if Dow's kicking can improve and in his opinion can Dow be the A grader we all hope for.