Blues supporters opinion on Dale Thomas

[therubbernub]

Bloke put his hand up for the money thinking he could get back. Turns out he couldn't. How much responsibility is with him to pull the pin? He wasn't brought across to "give his all". Or does he do what his manager tells him and squeeze as much dough from the club as he can before the inevitable?

Maybe a new contract is in order, at much lower money but for 2-3 years. He gets longevity in the game and a realistic renumeration. We get a huge relief in the salary cap going forward and a useful player

 

[AB_Blue]

It is but not for him.

He can give it his all and if he stays fit and contributes makes 800k......

If he stays fit and improved his output he triggers another contract.....happy days

 

[passmark]

Lovely trolly thread .

How does this happen?

 

[thylacine60]

good people do nothing......

 

[Iamcarlton]

Maybe a new contract is in order, at much lower money but for 2-3 years. He gets longevity in the game and a realistic renumeration. We get a huge relief in the salary cap going forward and a useful player

Sorry 2-3 year contract your not talking about thomas ?

 

[therubbernub]

Sorry 2-3 year contract your not talking about thomas ?

250 k a year over 2-3 years. I can see that he still has a role to play just not the star role anymore.

 

[thylacine60]

I think cooked means cooked in this situation - new carlton can't be new coke - we have to push on and become the aspirations we have put in place - not go back to the old recipe in any way, shape or form - ie. carrying a player for whatever reason

 

[The Bighouse]

He's no Shaun Hampson, what a jet!

 

[Iamcarlton]

Wow you would be happy giving a 29 year old with a very questionable ability to stay fit and very very modest results performance wise a 3 year contract ? . For mine id be offering him up for trade if we could get late 3rd rounder for him take it and run he'll be lucky to be playing at all in 2 years givin his body . If no takers 1 year contract dont care about the money if he doesnt take it delist .

 

[Sinjin Smith]

He was a great player..........for Collingwood.

 

[Jimmae]

With what he's given so far? I don't think that he deserves the approx 3M over 4 years that he's getting. 200k/y is what I think is suitable.

Yep. Let alone the players that are on 700k...

650k at most:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-07/carlton-lodges-dale-thomas-paperwork-with-afl/5002596

Dale Thomas set to join Carlton as Blues file $2.5 million-dollar offer with AFL

That didn't stop News Ltd from their usual trumped up bullshit. Have you read the Sun and the Daily Mail transfer stories in the UK? My god, the rounding they do.

 

[The Bighouse]

Wow you would be happy giving a 29 year old with a very questionable ability to stay fit and very very modest results performance wise a 3 year contract ? . For mine id be offering him up for trade if we could get late 3rd rounder for him take it and run he'll be lucky to be playing at all in 2 years givin his body . If no takers 1 year contract dont care about the money if he doesnt take it delist .

Just could not see any team biting. Perhaps Swanny can have another dig.
It'll be season #4 into a trigger for #5, a 1yr deal and what would have to be seriously reduced coin or an early retirement.
If the trigger continues on at current pay then I can only hope that he doesn't make it across the line. He really appears to be labouring in everything he tries.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

650k at most:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-07/carlton-lodges-dale-thomas-paperwork-with-afl/5002596


That didn't stop News Ltd from their usual trumped up bullshit. Have you read the Sun and the Daily Mail transfer stories in the UK? My god, the rounding they do.

Ok then can I ask, do you think 650k is suitable for him?

 

[Jimmae]

Ok then can I ask, do you think 650k is suitable for him?

No, but I don't know the structure of the deal, at all.

Usually these are maximum figures or TPP estimates, because it sells papers/clicks.

He presumably has to play every AFL game and hit some KPIs to make 650k.

 

[teknodeejay]

One of the worst deals in the history of the club

Yeah, it's gotta be in the order of:

1. Stephen O'Reilly (for 16 - David Haynes, but also could have been Brad Green, Jason Blake, Cain Ackland (the irony), Brent Guerra or Adam Hunter - 46 who never played, and a big old AFL Sanction for Salary Cap breaches)
2. Michael Mansfield (for 31 - Paul Chapman)
3. Kris Massie (for Andrew Eccles)
4. Dale Thomas (for 4 years and ~$3.5M)

Time will tell whether Pick 7 (Ahern, not played yet sadly due to an ACL) for Whiley, Jaksch and 19 (Boekhorst) gets added to the list of Oh Dear!

 

[RudyBlue]

metres? no chance

MM does.....

Well we're stuck with him and may as well make use of his assets in some capacity. Bloke knows his way around goals- think R. Houlihan circa 2010.

 

[thylacine60]

True. Hoops wasn't quick but at least he could sort of run. I'd prefer to think Daisy, circa 2010.

 

[Soapy V]

True. Hoops wasn't quick but at least he could sort of run. I'd prefer to think Daisy, circa 2010.

all he will do is take the place of a young player that may well be the future. thomas isnt. pay him out and move forward

 

[Azul]

Yeah, it's gotta be in the order of:

Bad trades - pick 19 for Craig Devonport (1 game). St Kilda selected Barry Hall.

Mick McGuane was also a classic.

 

[Soapy V]

4. Dale Thomas (for 4 years and ~$3.5M)

also cost us compo pick for betts which was possibly around pick 11?

 

[KnaveyBlue]

also cost us compo pick for betts which was possibly around pick 11?

LOL no way were we getting that. I could be wrong, but I think the AFL indicated 3rd rounder?

 

[Soapy V]

LOL no way were we getting that. I could be wrong, but I think the AFL indicated 3rd rounder?

pick 1 or 40 doesnt matter. cost us a pick and was a bad deal.

 

[The Bighouse]

also cost us compo pick for betts which was possibly around pick 11?

Is that $3.5M a little exaggerated..?

Compo pick wouldn't have been so high.

 

[The Flying Doormat]

No, but I don't know the structure of the deal, at all.

Usually these are maximum figures or TPP estimates, because it sells papers/clicks.

He presumably has to play every AFL game and hit some KPIs to make 650k.

So he doesn't get selected for a slab of 2017 and we save $650k in 2018? Works for me.

 

[The Bighouse]

pick 1 or 40 doesnt matter. cost us a pick and was a bad deal.

If you look at our drafting then it cost us nothing really other than another ??? as to why we buggered up yet another pick.