Recommitted Bobby Hill [OOC 2023] - stayed at the Pies in 2025

[beside the seaside]

A rough year for Bobby. Will he be wanting a change? Do the Pies want to hang onto him?

What's next for Bobby Hill?

 

[TradeDraft]

Stay a Pie or go back home to WA to be near his Kids

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Borderline impossible to value but I hope he gets what he needs to turn it all around. For both his sake, and footy's

 

[Elixuh]

Borderline impossible to value but I hope he gets what he needs to turn it all around. For both his sake, and footy's

Would be a compassionate trade if he leaves and just on form probably a 3rd rounder at best.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Dockers first rounder would be about it. I think Fremantle would do a overpay to get it done

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Dockers first rounder would be about it. I think Fremantle would do a overpay to get it done

I think we've burnt enough on these deals that they would be very very careful before handing over a 1st

 

[1990crow]

I think we've burnt enough on these deals that they would be very very.careful before handing over a 1st

Current circumstances a second would be fair.

 

[Elixuh]

I think we've burnt enough on these deals that they would be very very.careful before handing over a 1st

I thought that guy was trolling about handing over a first.

Even if you take away the compassionate bit, I just don’t see the value in Freo giving up much for him. Other areas I’d be investing in before a player like Hill.

I feel like a second would be overs unless it’s right at the end of the round. An early third seems about right just based on pure footy ability and not taking into account the compassionate side.

 

[rye]

how much did ginnivan get traded for? that would be about right.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I think we've burnt enough on these deals that they would be very very.careful before handing over a 1st

Forgot it’s actually pick 11. I can see you splitting of pick 11 plus change for say 19 and 20 for Eagles and giving them 19

I thought that guy was trolling about handing over a first.

Even if you take away the compassionate bit, I just don’t see the value in Freo giving up much for him. Other areas I’d be investing in before a player like Hill.

I feel like a second would be overs unless it’s right at the end of the round. An early third seems about right just based on pure footy ability and not taking into account the compassionate side.

They need a small forward desperately .

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Better off not to trade him would be selling low

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Better off not to trade him would be selling low

More thinking Collingwood won’t have a choice here.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I thought that guy was trolling about handing over a first.

Even if you take away the compassionate bit, I just don’t see the value in Freo giving up much for him. Other areas I’d be investing in before a player like Hill.

I feel like a second would be overs unless it’s right at the end of the round. An early third seems about right just based on pure footy ability and not taking into account the compassionate side.

Haha, you definitely are on the "overated coz Pies" side. I'd have thought a top 20 pick is fair on talent. He's a pretty good small forward and the Pies have really missed him. Risk factor would put him anywhere between pick 20 and 60 for mine without knowing all the details.

Getting Hill lets us move Reid up the ground and not lose anything though if there was some gun HBF magically available, it would be my first preference for Freo.

 

[Elixuh]

Forgot it’s actually pick 11. I can see you splitting of pick 11 plus change for say 19 and 20 for Eagles and giving them 19

They need a small forward desperately .

I think the Dudley guy with another preseason is about as good as Hill. Or certainly as serviceable, maybe not the ceiling. I just don’t think you can give up a first for what Hill provides.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Haha, you definitely are on the "overated coz Pies" side. I'd have thought a top 20 pick is fair on talent. He's a pretty good small forward and the Pies have really missed him. Risk factor would put him anywhere between pick 20 and 60 for mine without knowing all the details.

Getting Hill lets us move Reid up the ground and not lose anything though if there was some gun HBF magically available, it would be my first preference for Freo.

If he is seen as a risk, then Freo won’t trade for him at all

I’d rule that out as a issue as if he has issues he will stay at Collingwood

 

[Elixuh]

Haha, you definitely are on the "overated coz Pies" side. I'd have thought a top 20 pick is fair on talent. He's a pretty good small forward and the Pies have really missed him. Risk factor would put him anywhere between pick 20 and 60 for mine without knowing all the details.

Getting Hill lets us move Reid up the ground and not lose anything though if there was some gun HBF magically available, it would be my first preference for Freo.

He hasn’t kicked more than 25 odd goals in a season, playing deep into finals in a good team which gets plenty of supply.

Cameron at his peak was kicking almost 60.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

If he is seen as a risk, then Freo won’t trade for him at all

I’d rule that out as a issue as if he has issues he will stay at Collingwood

There's a point they bite though, same with WC. Really hard to speculate while being considerate but he may literally have to be in WA to continue his career. At a point the risk is only whatever salary he's on for the rest of his contract

 

[Pure_Ownage]

More thinking Collingwood won’t have a choice here.

They have plenty of choice he signed less than 12 months ago.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

He hasn’t kicked more than 25 odd goals in a season, playing deep into finals in a good team which gets plenty of supply.

Cameron at his peak was kicking almost 60.

I am with you on the "rated higher than actual output" train but I still think top 20 would be the general consensus if there were no other issues.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

They have plenty of choice he signed less than 12 months ago.

Are you aware of any of the story around him, this goes beyond "signed a contract, who cares"

 

[Elixuh]

I am with you on the "rated higher than actual output" train but I still think top 20 would be the general consensus if there were no other issues.

I’ll be a bit kinder. I think he is a typical pick 25ish trade. But not a first. With circumstances it’s a late second or early third.

I don’t see why Collingwood would trade though, back themselves in to resolve the personal stuff over the offseason.

 

[rye]

I am with you on the "rated higher than actual output" train but I still think top 20 would be the general consensus if there were no other issues.

his value is definitely inflated due to the fact his career game was in a grand final.

realistically i think he is worth about as much as ah chee (mid second round pick)

this is before any consideration of whatever is happening off field

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Are you aware of any of the story around him, this goes beyond "signed a contract, who cares"

I do but frankly if thats the situation he will retire and go back to WA.
Collingwood aren't trading him for a r3 so a rival can have him.
They will get the return they want or he will stay and knuckle down or retire (his choice).

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I do but frankly if thats the situation he will retire and go back to WA.
Collingwood aren't trading him for a r3 so a rival can have him.
They will get the return they want or he will stay and knuckle down or retire (his choice).

Nah, footy clubs arent like that. I see it as no different to Freo kicking Hogan back over East. Sometimes the clubs just take the hit for the good of the person

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Nah, footy clubs arent like that. I see it as no different to Freo kicking Hogan back over East. Sometimes the clubs just take the hit for the good of the person

Pretty unlikely. No reason for them to do that it doesn't benefit them.