Current Bodies of Two Sisters as Saudi Foreign Nationals Found in Canterbury Apartment - NSW

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Detective Inspector Allcroft said the discovery of two sisters decomposed bodies in an apartment in Sydney's south west is being treated as suspicious and hoping post mortem results will provide some answers.

Aged 23 and 24 — the sisters are believed to be foreign nationals and were found dead in separate bedrooms in their Canterbury home.

Their landlord had not received rent for "several weeks", prompting a visit from authorities, which sparked an investigation with few leads.

With no visible signs of a break-in at the property nor injuries to the bodies, mystery surrounds the circumstances leading up to the deaths.

Detectives puzzled after sisters' decomposing bodies found in Sydney apartment

Police probe the deaths of two young women whose bodies were found in separate rooms of a Canterbury unit — there were no signs of a break-in at the property or injuries to the deceased.

www.abc.net.au

 

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Nothing more in the media I can see on this case as yet.

 

[craffles]

This is just strange and really really sad.

 

[BFew]

Nothing more in the media I can see on this case as yet.

9 days ago there was this



I hope there wasn't a Saudi hit squad/person operating in my neck of the Sydney woods!

EXCLUSIVE: Sisters found dead in Sydney unit fled Saudi as teenagers

The women - aged 23 and 24 - were discovered in separate beds of their first-floor Canterbury unit on June 7 by officers conducting a welfare check after the pair failed to pay rent for four weeks.

www.dailymail.co.uk

'PUBLISHED: 01:50 AEST, 18 June 2022 | UPDATED: 17:57 AEST, 18 June 2022'

'Two sisters found dead in an apartment in Sydney's south-west under 'suspicious' circumstances fled Saudi Arabia as teenagers to seek safety in Australia.

The women, aged 23 and 24, were discovered in separate beds of their first-floor Canterbury unit on June 7 by officers conducting a welfare check after the pair failed to pay rent for four weeks and mail began to pile up outside their door.

Police said the sisters' bodies had been there for 'some time' and had 'no obvious signs of injury'.'

'While there were no signs of forced entry, detectives are still treating their deaths as suspicious, with the Homicide Squad investigating the case.

Daily Mail Australia understands the siblings fled Saudi Arabia without their family in 2017 when they were 18 and 19, and NSW Police are now struggling to locate their relatives.'

The women had for five years been engaged with a refugee service which helps foreign nationals escaping persecution and seeking asylum.

On Friday, police were still awaiting some autopsy results and are yet to locate and contact the women's family in the Middle East to formally identify the bodies.

The sisters were not in regular contact with their relatives back home, sources told Daily Mail Australia.

Daily Mail Australia can also reveal the older sister had taken out an AVO against a 28-year-old man in January 2019.

The AVO was later withdrawn and dismissed.

In another court matter, the owner of their Canterbury unit filed a civil case against the 23-year-old on May 13 this year.

Landlords can issue tenants with legal warning notices via the civil court for overdue rent before taking further action to have them removed from the property.

That action was taken four weeks after sheriff's officers went to the apartment to serve the women with an eviction notice - alongside police - and the grisly discovery was made.

Despite their traumatic past, locals say the women were cheerful towards neighbours.

Staff at a nearby service station said the women started visiting in 2020, just before the Covid pandemic, and were regulars until two months ago when they stopped passing by.

They described the pair - one brunette and the other dyed blonde - as 'quiet' but 'very friendly', and said they would only respond to questions.

One female attendant said the sisters would visit the store to pick up drinks during the day, but only appeared to fill up their black BMW coupe with petrol at night.

'One girl would come in to buy iced coffee and sometimes V [energy drink]. ' Sometimes two or three times a day,' one female attendant said.

'I never served her sister but I would see them walking up the street together. When I found out what happened to them, I was very shocked and confused.

'She was so friendly. Every time she came in and I talked to her she would smile. She never looked sad.'

The Department of Home Affairs would not confirm if the women were seeking asylum in Australia.

'The department does not comment on individual cases,' a spokesman said.

Daily Mail Australia has also contacted the Consulate General of Saudi Arabia for comment.'

 

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'Two sisters found dead in an apartment in Sydney's south-west under 'suspicious' circumstances fled Saudi Arabia as teenagers to seek safety in Australia.

Do we have cause of death yet?

 

[BFew]

Do we have cause of death yet?

10 days ago the Daily Mail reported the below (from the link in my last post).

No sign of any more info on the case since then.

On Friday, police were still awaiting some autopsy results

 

[BFew]

That took a long time to put these pics with names out in the public arena, and to provide more publicity for the case, and a call for public info.

You'd think they'd have done this from close to day zero.

Probably just the Saudi related angle of this case, making this an exceptional one.

‘We don’t know a lot about them’: Police identify sisters found dead in Sydney unit

Police are appealing for information about two Saudi Arabian sisters found dead in an apartment in Canterbury last month under “unusual” and suspicious circumstances.

www.smh.com.au

(selected parts of the article below)

‘We don’t know a lot about them’: Police identify sisters found dead in Sydney unit​

'July 27, 2022 — 12.13pm'



'Police have released the names and photographs of two Saudi Arabian sisters found dead in an apartment in Canterbury, in Sydney’s south-west, last month under “unusual” and suspicious circumstances.

Mystery surrounds how Asra Abdullah Alsehli, 24, and Amaal Abdullah Alsehli, 23, arrived in Australia in 2017, when they were teenagers, and how they spent the five years leading up to their deaths.'

'Allcroft would not comment on the women’s visa status or line of work, but said police had been in touch with family in Saudi Arabia, who haved instructed the Saudi consulate to act on their behalf.

The family are assisting police with their inquiries and there is “nothing to suggest” they are suspects, Allcroft said. Nor was she aware of any information suggesting the sisters had tried to escape from Saudi Arabia.'

'Post-mortem examinations were conducted on June 9 and 10, but police have not yet received a coroner’s report and the cause of death remains unknown. Police are also awaiting toxicology results.

However, investigators believe the women met their fate in early May.

Allcroft said police were appealing for information “because we don’t know a lot about the girls”, who “seemed to keep to themselves somewhat”.'

'“We’ve spoken to a number of people in the neighbourhood but we are now seeking further information from the community,” she said.
“Any information, no matter how small you think it might be, might help us work out the circumstances leading up to the deaths of Asra and Amaal.

“So anyone who had contact with the girls or who might have known them or had any contact with them leading up to their deaths, we are urging them to contact Crime Stoppers.”'

 

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That took a long time to put these pics with names out in the public arena, and to provide more publicity for the case, and a call for public info.

You'd think they'd have done this from close to day zero.

Probably just the Saudi related angle of this case, making this an exceptional one.

‘We don’t know a lot about them’: Police identify sisters found dead in Sydney unit

Police are appealing for information about two Saudi Arabian sisters found dead in an apartment in Canterbury last month under “unusual” and suspicious circumstances.

www.smh.com.au

(selected parts of the article below)

‘We don’t know a lot about them’: Police identify sisters found dead in Sydney unit​

'July 27, 2022 — 12.13pm'

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'Police have released the names and photographs of two Saudi Arabian sisters found dead in an apartment in Canterbury, in Sydney’s south-west, last month under “unusual” and suspicious circumstances.

Mystery surrounds how Asra Abdullah Alsehli, 24, and Amaal Abdullah Alsehli, 23, arrived in Australia in 2017, when they were teenagers, and how they spent the five years leading up to their deaths.'

'Allcroft would not comment on the women’s visa status or line of work, but said police had been in touch with family in Saudi Arabia, who haved instructed the Saudi consulate to act on their behalf.

The family are assisting police with their inquiries and there is “nothing to suggest” they are suspects, Allcroft said. Nor was she aware of any information suggesting the sisters had tried to escape from Saudi Arabia.'

'Post-mortem examinations were conducted on June 9 and 10, but police have not yet received a coroner’s report and the cause of death remains unknown. Police are also awaiting toxicology results.

However, investigators believe the women met their fate in early May.

Allcroft said police were appealing for information “because we don’t know a lot about the girls”, who “seemed to keep to themselves somewhat”.'

'“We’ve spoken to a number of people in the neighbourhood but we are now seeking further information from the community,” she said.
“Any information, no matter how small you think it might be, might help us work out the circumstances leading up to the deaths of Asra and Amaal.

“So anyone who had contact with the girls or who might have known them or had any contact with them leading up to their deaths, we are urging them to contact Crime Stoppers.”'

IMO, sadly, the Saudi connection does make this sound suspicious.

 

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Below is a 10 minute long 7news video today on this case, which includes an extensive Q&A between a Police spokesperson and the media on the case.

 

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IMO, sadly, the Saudi connection does make this sound suspicious.

In what way?

 

[zedx]

In what way?

I have no personal knowledge of these young ladies or their situation, so am only going on information available on the internet.
This being so, the fact that two young Saudi Women living alone in Australia would seem very unusual.
The below may be helpful -

Women's rights in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[BFew]

the fact that two young Saudi Women living alone in Australia would seem very unusual.

They allegedly travelled from Saudi to Australia.
But do we actually have evidence that they were born in Saudi, or even lived there for most of their lives?
Maybe they or their family was working in Saudi temporarily, prior to them coming to Australia.
Maybe their family in Saudi was a bloke with 10 other wives.

 

[Gameova_]

I have no personal knowledge of these young ladies or their situation, so am only going on information available on the internet.
This being so, the fact that two young Saudi Women living alone in Australia would seem very unusual.
The below may be helpful -

Religion in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Women's rights in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And this is why it's suspicious coz they're Saudi, LOL

 

[Kurve]

And this is why it's suspicious coz they're Saudi, LOL

It's that they 'fled' Saudi as teenagers with the question being, what were they fleeing from?

Saudi women who manage to get out and refuse to go home, can be at enormous risk.

 

[BFew]

It's that they 'fled' Saudi as teenagers with the question being, what were they fleeing from? Arranged marriages perhaps?

Maybe their family in Saudi was a bloke with 10 other wives.

 

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It's that they 'fled' Saudi as teenagers with the question being, what were they fleeing from?

Saudi women who manage to get out and refuse to go home, can be at enormous risk.

So their parents gonna come and get someone to kill em six years later? Unlikely.

Suicide pact or they were murdered by someone they knew.

Doubt the family had anything to do with it. Just basing this on what the police have or haven't said yet.

 

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Here's the official site on the relationship between Saudi Arabia and Australia.

I imagine that Australian authorities (led by the Feds) would be treading very carefully, if the 2 deceased ladies or their families had (or possibly had) any connections or links to people in high places, in Saudi Arabia.

https://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/saudi-arabia

'Bilateral relations
Australia and Saudi Arabia's friendly relationship is underpinned by commercial ties and shared membership in the G20. This is complemented by Australia's engagement with the GCC and OIC, which are both headquartered in Saudi Arabia (Riyadh and Jeddah respectively).

Australia and Saudi Arabia have well-established cooperation in countering terrorism and are both members of the Global Coalition to Defeat-ISIS and the International Syria Support Group.

People-to-people contacts are an important aspect of the relationship, with over 3,110 Saudi students studying at Australian education institutions in 2021.

Saudi Arabia is an important trading partner in the Middle East region for Australia. There is significant potential for economic ties to grow, given areas of complementarity in agriculture, mining services, education and construction. Vision 2030 also provides potential opportunities for Australian business in priority sectors.'

 

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So their parents gonna come and get someone to kill em six years later? Unlikely.

Suicide pact or they were murdered by someone they knew.

Doubt the family had anything to do with it. Just basing this on what the police have or haven't said yet.

Maybe the family had nothing to do with it but unfortunately, honour killings are actually still a thing in very conservative societies such as Saudi Arabia.

 

[BFew]

Arranged marriages perhaps?

Saudi Arabian - Family

Understand family dynamics, household structures, gender roles and marriage customs

culturalatlas.sbs.com.au

'It is common for Saudis to marry foreigners.'

Saudi Arabia has curbed, not banned, underage marriages

Like many countries, Saudi Arabia approves minor marriages under certain conditions

www.theweek.in

'In January, the Kingdom’s advisory Shoura Council approved a ban on the marriage of minors, male or female, below the age of 15. As per its stipulations, marriages of those below the age of 18 would need permission from a specialised court. While hailed as a great step forward many years in the making, the stipulations still leave room for abuse—the deputy director of international NGO 'Girls Not Brides' told Reuters that girls could still be at risk of being forced into marriage if their parents persuaded a court to agree to it.'

So in 2017 when the 2 deceased ladies came to Australian from Saudi Arabia as 17yo, there was no ban on marriages for minors below the age of 15.
Neither were marriages below 18 required to get permission from a specialised court, like they are now required to do.

 

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It's a sensitive issue with the SaudiA trying to present to the rest of the world as progressive on women's rights. Qamar was killed over a snapchat account.

This week, a hashtag reading "Save Manal, sister of Qamar," circulated widely on Arabic-language social media. The activists who spread the it were referring to a woman in the central Saudi Arabian province of Al-Kharj whose 26-year-old sister, Qamar, was reported missing on January 19.

Qamar's body was later found buried in the desert and Manal suspected her conservative brothers of killing her, writing online that they had murdered Qamar because she had a public Snapchat account.

After Manal wrote about the case on social media, she was detained by the Al-Kharj police, who told her to stop publicizing the murder.

Middle East: Murdered because of Snapchat? | DW | 29.01.2021

In conservative societies, just opening a social media account can be dangerous for women. As social media use rises, are honor crimes following suit?

www.dw.com

 

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Maybe the food was gifted by someone to them, and the ladies refused to collect the food, fearing that someone might be trying to poison them with such gifts.

Police appeal for information after ‘unusual’ death of two Saudi sisters in south-west Sydney

Asra Abdullah Alsehli, 24, and Amaal Abdullah Alsehli, 23, were found dead in a Canterbury apartment in June

www.theguardian.com

'Police are still waiting on toxicology reports, and confirmed they attended the unit in mid-March following a phone call from the building manager, who was concerned after some food was left in the building’s common areas.

They said that at that stage “no issues were raised”.

It is understood that one of the sisters owned a business, although police could not expand on what kind of business it was, and whether there were any leads there.'

 

[Gameova_]

I did no such thing. Give yourself an uppercut.

Quoting me on a post that you deleted. Original. Mod powers.

 

[Kurve]

Quoting me on a post that you deleted. Original. Mod powers.

Just wanted to make sure you got the message first, I'll delete the rest. Also behave yourself, you're pretending something that isn't so and exagerrating, womens rights really are a huge issue in Saudi Arabia. Human rights actually, given the Crown Prince MBS only recent sent a kill squad in to the Turkish Embassy to kill a journalist.

 

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So in 2017 when the 2 deceased ladies came to Australian from Saudi Arabia as 17yo, there was no ban on marriages for minors below the age of 15.

In 2017, they needed male guardian approval to travel but have contact with a refugee service who deals with asylum seekers.

What a strange case.

 

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Just wanted too make sure you got the message first, I'll delete the rest. Also behave yourself, you're pretending something that isn't so and exagerrating, womens rights really are a huge issue in Saudi Arabia. Human rights actually given the Crown Prince MBS only recent sent a kill squad in to the Turkish Embassy to kill a journalist.
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The women have lived in Australia for the past five years.

Geez you really don't get it.