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Partridge said:
If he wasn't so stupid with his discipline he could have won it himself.
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Too true. 25 votes in 16 games @ 1.56 votes per game. Amazing
 
Or if the umpires gave Joel BOG in round 1 instead of Mitchell.
Selwood was outstanding round 1...
Or a sneaky vote in round 22 would have been handy.
 
I think Taylor Hunt will return and be a lock in future seasons. People have forgotten how well he played before he did his shoulder
Billie Smedts may turn out to be fizzer...
Blitz may be reinvented as a backman- Lonners style
 

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Vardy wont play 50 games for Geelong. Is a Josh Fraser clone. Not big enough to be a powerful ruckman and not enough tricks to be a key forward.
 
Two Planks said:
Vardy wont play 50 games for Geelong. Is a Josh Fraser clone. Not big enough to be a powerful ruckman and not enough tricks to be a key forward.
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Couldnt be anymore wrong in my opinion... Vardy blitz and simpson will be a trio that is feared by the rest of the comp in the next year or two
 
Two Planks said:
Vardy wont play 50 games for Geelong. Is a Josh Fraser clone. Not big enough to be a powerful ruckman and not enough tricks to be a key forward.
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You don't mean the same Josh Fraser who played over 200 games and represented the great football state of Victoria do you?
 
Blitz will fade away into the sunset.

Massively overrated. The time for rapid improvement has passed and he'll have to work much harder for incremental gains now. Doesn't do enough with the ball and will struggle massively to find a position once is pushed out of the ruck when Simpson / HMac are fit.

Will be livid if they upgrade him. Would be happy for them to leave him on the rookie list and give him AFL time if he deserves it through LTI upgrades
 
you pick one said:
You don't mean the same Josh Fraser who played over 200 games and represented the great football state of Victoria do you?
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Greg Eppulstun played for Victoria as well. Oh and dont forget Classy Tim Darcy !!!!

Josh Fraser got dropped for the 2007 prelim final against the cats in favour of some hack I cant even remember. Was it David Fanning ??? Steve McKee ??? Somebody of that ilk.
 

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TEDDY24INC said:
Couldnt be anymore wrong in my opinion... Vardy blitz and simpson will be a trio that is feared by the rest of the comp in the next year or two
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Simpson maybe, if he can stay fit. His body might be as reliable as Steven Hooper !!!!

Blitz wont make it as a ruckman, key defender possibly.

I think Vardy is massively overrated. Would trade him in my opinion. Cash in whilst he has currency. With 2 more injury interupted years he will be worthless. Would love to be proved wrong but just cant see it happening.
 
Ikan Bodoh said:
Blitz will fade away into the sunset.

Massively overrated. The time for rapid improvement has passed and he'll have to work much harder for incremental gains now. Doesn't do enough with the ball and will struggle massively to find a position once is pushed out of the ruck when Simpson / HMac are fit.

Will be livid if they upgrade him. Would be happy for them to leave him on the rookie list and give him AFL time if he deserves it through LTI upgrades
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I think he could play anywhere really... So much poise when he has the ball, his running capacity unheard of for his size, will be a gun and is already a very handy player
 
Two Planks said:
Greg Eppulstun played for Victoria as well. Oh and dont forget Classy Tim Darcy !!!!

Josh Fraser got dropped for the 2007 prelim final against the cats in favour of some hack I cant even remember. Was it David Fanning ??? Steve McKee ??? Somebody of that ilk.
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You liken Vardy to Josh that gives you 12 years and 218 games not less the 50 poor choice for a comparison.And Tim Darcy another 190 gamer keep digging that hole.
 

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you pick one said:
You liken Vardy to Josh that gives you 12 years and 218 games not less the 50 poor choice for a comparison.And Tim Darcy another 190 gamer keep digging that hole.
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If you think the cats would accept a ruckman of Josh Frasers output for the next 10 years and Tim Darcy as a full back for the next 10 years, get set for mid table mediocrity. They both won two fifths of nothing between them. The cats need a dominant ruckman who can control the clearances and on our list only McIntosh and Simpson are capable.

p.s. there is a difference between playing 200 games and 200 good games. Vardy is existing in the team and giving them very little. Similar to Josh Fraser for most of his career.
 
Two Planks said:
If you think the cats would accept a ruck man of Josh Fraser's output for the next 10 years and Tim Darcy as a full back for the next 10 years, get set for mid table mediocrity. They both won two fifths of nothing between them. The cats need a dominant ruck man who can control the clearances and on our list only McIntosh and Simpson are capable.

p.s. there is a difference between playing 200 games and 200 good games. Vary is existing in the team and giving them very little. Similar to Josh Fraser for most of his career.
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Can't wait to bump this rubbish,by the way some of us see Vary playing more a forward role,so your comparison to Fraser may be moot and he won't be playing full back,so as a forward what 200 game spud do you see him emulating.
 
I don't understand the rush with Menzel, this time around. Give the graft 18 months to fully knit and bring him back for 2015.

Prior to the first ACL Menz looked to be developing a similar trick bag to Stevie J. He was working up to HB beautifully, building the tank,.. was a far stronger grab, had a great leap, and was probably making less stupid decisions than the great man. He was hitting packs hard, was elusive, and showed he could kick goals from anywhere - showed more than you could reasonably expect of any 19yo in his first full year of senior footy.

The kid is a natural. He's the best prospect I have seen arrive at the club since Ablett Snr. Four ops later, with time out of the game, sadly we may never see his full potential evolve, though I would never rule that out. Even so, given time, his best at 90% would be better than most at 100%.

So why not do more than required to give Menz the greatest shot at a 7-8 year career. Screw a tilt at 2014,.. just get this kid right.
 

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