Opinion Bottom 4 and top 4 teams in 3 years

Discussion in 'Lists' started by Feder98, May 31, 2010.

  1. LicoriceAllsorts

    LicoriceAllsorts Hall of Famer

    Brisbane Lions
    Other teams:
    Denver Broncos, Denver Nuggets
    Feb 25, 2013
    31,515
    Melbourne
    Top 4:
    GWS
    Bulldogs
    Demons
    Saints

    Bottom 4:
    Tigers
    Kangaroos
    Port Adelaide
    Collingwood
     
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  2. frenchfri12

    frenchfri12 Suspended

    Essendon
    Jul 10, 2012
    3,156
    Top 4:
    GWS
    St. Kilda
    Bulldogs
    Melbourne

    Bottom 4:
    Richmond
    Collingwood
    Geelong
    Hawthorn
     
  3. Kangaroos4eva

    Kangaroos4eva Brownlow Medallist

    Adelaide
    Other teams:
    West Ham United
    Aug 22, 2012
    29,833
    NSW
    A bit harsh on port and the pies. As for us, I'm almost willing to bet my account that we won't finish bottom 4.
     
  4. frenchconnection

    frenchconnection Premiership Player

    West Coast
    Aug 16, 2009
    3,586
    Wembley downs
    Think you are getting a bit carried away there.:rolleyes: Not saying that there won't be improvement by some of those teams but think trading has changed things a fair bit which means a team like say Hawthorn will be thereabouts. Successful teams over a number of years most times seem to be able to attract players on the move. I'm just usung Hawthorn as an example of course!
     
  5. treefingers

    treefingers the mighty hawks

    Hawthorn
    Jan 20, 2008
    6,084
    Well, I got Sydney and Brisbane. Bit of wishful thinking with Geelong down there though
     
  6. FlowersByIrene

    FlowersByIrene Brownlow Medallist

    Carlton
    Other teams:
    Knicks, Giants, Man U
    Apr 29, 2012
    15,068
    Perth via Carlton Land
    One year on;

    2016: Hawthorn were top 4 before the finals, finished fifth, WBD were 7th but went on to win. West Coast were fifth but finished 7th. Freo no where near it. As for the bottom four, got Essendon and Brisbane spot on, underestimated my Blueboys, but was only out by two spots, and underestemiated St Kilda.

    2017: I wouldn't change a lot; besides taking Gold Coast out of the top 4 and putting them into the bottom 4. I'll take Geelong out and replace them with GC. I'll put Sydney in the top 4 in place of GC. Actually Richmond need to be bottom four somewhere, maybe take Essendon out as well
    Top 4: (1) GWS (2) WBD (3) Sydney (4) WCE
    Bottom 4 (18) Brisbane (17) Richmond (16) GC (15) North

    2018: I'll keep roughly the same, I didnt expect Essendon to be rewarded for cheating with Pick #1 so I see them climbing out of the bottom #4. Fremantle won't be bottom 4 but i'll keep North and Geelong in there for now. Richmon will stay, and Brisbane probably arent getting fixed any time soon. As for the top #4, GC wont be there obviously; i'll back the Blues and think Melbourne will be the other side

    Top 4: (1) GWS (2) Dogs (3) Melb (4) Carlton
    Bottom 4: (18) North (17) Richmond (16) Geelong (15) Brisbane
     
  7. SaintsSeptember

    SaintsSeptember Hall of Famer

    St Kilda
    Other teams:
    .
    Mar 19, 2008
    32,008
    Narre Warren North
    AFL didn't expect the Wada ban, so prematurely stripped picks from the cheats. They can't really do it again.
     
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  8. FlowersByIrene

    FlowersByIrene Brownlow Medallist

    Carlton
    Other teams:
    Knicks, Giants, Man U
    Apr 29, 2012
    15,068
    Perth via Carlton Land
    They definitely could.. they wont because they've done everything to prop that club up during the whole process; but they should have
     
  9. SaintsSeptember

    SaintsSeptember Hall of Famer

    St Kilda
    Other teams:
    .
    Mar 19, 2008
    32,008
    Narre Warren North
    So what would be the justification given that they have already taken draft picks.
    Are you suggesting they can continually punish for the same actions.

    What i believe is that if WADA also applies to team sports they need to get their heads outside the olympics/cycing box and get a suitable system, which would also include performance based drafting after the year of penalty.
    .
     
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  10. Bipolarbear

    Bipolarbear Browns Fan

    Essendon
    Other teams:
    Parramatta, San Antonio, Everton
    May 24, 2008
    21,439
    Sandy Bay
    :rolleyes: Ah yes, and what would you have liked? two years worth of first rounders, millions of dollars in fines, taken out of the finals when we had a certain first round one win, players copping a one year ban, first wooden spoon in 75 years. Keep beating the nonsensical drum FBI, we came last, we deserve the pick.
     
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  11. JRyan23

    JRyan23 Club Legend

    Carlton
    Other teams:
    GC Suns, Charlotte Hornets
    Oct 6, 2016
    1,492
    Top 4 in 2020: 1. GWS, 2. Port 3. St. Kilda 4. Gold Coast
    Bottom 4: Hawthorn, Geelong, Essendon, Collingwood
     

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  12. The Blue Baggers

    The Blue Baggers Club Legend

    Carlton
    Apr 7, 2013
    2,993
    Top 4

    Carlton
    Giants
    Saints
    Bulldogs

    Bottom

    Geelong
    Hawks
    Collingwood
    Richmond
     
  13. Skipper_

    Skipper_ Club Legend

    Essendon
    Sep 8, 2016
    2,813
    Top 4

    Giants
    Saints
    Demons
    Bulldogs

    Bottom 4

    Fremantle
    Hawthorn
    Port Adelaide
    Geelong
     
  14. Mr Meeseeks

    Mr Meeseeks Premium Gold

    Hawthorn
    Sep 15, 2007
    11,320
    Im going to play it safe. Hawthorn, Sydney and Geelong should all be in the top 4 in 4 years.

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  15. LicoriceAllsorts

    LicoriceAllsorts Hall of Famer

    Brisbane Lions
    Other teams:
    Denver Broncos, Denver Nuggets
    Feb 25, 2013
    31,515
    Melbourne
    Top 4
    Brisbane

    Bottom 4
     
  16. Kangaroos4eva

    Kangaroos4eva Brownlow Medallist

    Adelaide
    Other teams:
    West Ham United
    Aug 22, 2012
    29,833
    NSW
    In three years, a very hard thing to predict

    Top 4:
    GWS
    Port
    Dogs
    North (a guy can dream)

    Bottom 4:
    Geelong
    St kilda
    West Coast
    GCS
     
  17. FlowersByIrene

    FlowersByIrene Brownlow Medallist

    Carlton
    Other teams:
    Knicks, Giants, Man U
    Apr 29, 2012
    15,068
    Perth via Carlton Land
    Mate... you're in for a rude awakening. There is at least a decade in the bottom 10-12 waiting for North Melbourne.
     
  18. LB#16

    LB#16 Premiership Player

    Essendon
    Other teams:
    Miami Heat
    Mar 28, 2010
    3,863
    Central Victoria
    I have never understood this line of thinking. The average rebuild is 3-5 years. People who suggest a decade in the doldrums for a team are more hoping than predicting.
     
  19. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Brownlow Medallist

    North Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Seattle Seahawks
    May 28, 2013
    16,862
    Like the dogs in 2014 after they sacked their coach and captain walked out? We aren't Carlton - a quick check of the history of the Afl will show you we are 1 team that doesn't stay at the bottom for long.
     
  20. SaintsSeptember

    SaintsSeptember Hall of Famer

    St Kilda
    Other teams:
    .
    Mar 19, 2008
    32,008
    Narre Warren North
    Except Melbourne and Richmond
     
  21. FlowersByIrene

    FlowersByIrene Brownlow Medallist

    Carlton
    Other teams:
    Knicks, Giants, Man U
    Apr 29, 2012
    15,068
    Perth via Carlton Land
    The dogs had talented youth, North have???
     
  22. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Brownlow Medallist

    North Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Seattle Seahawks
    May 28, 2013
    16,862
    Right - so everyone had them bottom 4 in 2015 - even their own supporters. Yet they turned it around quickly. Lots of decade of pain posts about them as well.
     
  23. LB#16

    LB#16 Premiership Player

    Essendon
    Other teams:
    Miami Heat
    Mar 28, 2010
    3,863
    Central Victoria
    Teams spend more than 5 years at the bottom because they rebuild once and the rebuild fails, so they need to do another. You can't possibly predict that with any confidence.
     
  24. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Brownlow Medallist

    North Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Seattle Seahawks
    May 28, 2013
    16,862
    Agree - dees finally stopped butchering early draft picks and now on the move. Martin pick 3, Cotchin pick 2 will be 1 & 2 in their B&F this year. Nail your top picks and get lucky with some late gems and things turn quickly.
     
  25. MUPPETSMASHER

    MUPPETSMASHER Team Captain

    Sydney
    Jun 14, 2014
    377
    victoria
    Why not forever?
     

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